Now here's a cool car

N8N wrote:
> On Apr 2, 11:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
> wrote:
>> Nate Nagel wrote:
>>> On 04/02/2010 07:21 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>>> Grumpy AuContraire > wrote in
>>>>> :
>>>>>> boyari2 wrote:
>>>>>>> It's the original muscle car that spawned all the other imitators,
>>>>>>> isn't it?
>>>>>>> http://surftofind.com/car
>>>>>> Whatta joke...
>>>>>> Studebaker was there before anyone else in 1962.
>>>>>> Do some worthwhile research regarding the "Avanti."
>>>>> Phooey on the Avanti. Go back to 1958.
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_Rebel>
>>>> Phooey on the Rebel... Go back to 1957 and the Golden Hawk.
>>>> <G>
>>>> JT
>>> No love for the '56? (was trying to find the link to the news article
>>> about the demise of my own in a literal blaze of glory, but it seems to
>>> have expired. However the last owner of that car has apparently
>>> purchased another! that's dedication...)
>>> nate
>> Not for me... My ol' '56 Power Hawk is 'nuff for my purposes if I ever
>> get the gas tank cleaned out.
>>
>> Oh, post the link as I did not know that your GH is no longer...
>>
>> JT- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Can't find the original BBC news article any longer... Long story
> short, I traded the car back to JDP as part of the deal to get my
> current '55; he sold it to a gentleman in England, and when the car
> was damaged in shipment he sent it to a classic car restoration place
> in Bristol to be fully restored. Then the fireworks warehouse next
> door blew up...
>
> http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/n...l/article.html
>
> http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/dealersites/337/
>
> I believe the car mentioned in the second link is another GH which the
> same guy bought as a replacement.
>
> it's especially sad because I happened to work on a car one serial
> number away from and similarly optioned to mine, which is currently
> owned by Brian Scott unless he's sold it and I didn't hear, so Brian's
> car is now missing its "twin..."
>
> nate


I remember the '56 being traded back to JP. I thought that you had
parted with the '55 also...

JT

wrote:
> In article >, "Stewart"
> > wrote:
>
>> Left wing socialist alert!
>>
>> And to keep it on topic.....what type of Honda do you own?
>
>
> Nah, we socialists only drive Volvo 240s and read misc.transport.rail.americas.
> (To which I am still trying to figure out why this thread is posted).
>



What???

No Prius or Smaht Kahs???

JT

In article >, Grumpy
AuContraire > wrote:

> wrote:
> > In article >, "Stewart"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Left wing socialist alert!
> >>
> >> And to keep it on topic.....what type of Honda do you own?
> >
> >
> > Nah, we socialists only drive Volvo 240s and read
misc.transport.rail.americas.
> > (To which I am still trying to figure out why this thread is posted).
> >
>
> What???
>
> No Prius or Smaht Kahs???


Ha! Those are only driven by wanna-be socialists. Too much computer
technology, and made by corporations. The most advanced technology
allowed near the homes of true socialists are the products of the Soviet
Diesel Computer Cooperative.

--
-Glennl
Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam, and most e-mail sent to this address are simply lost in the vast mess.

On Apr 5, 11:43*pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
wrote:
> N8N wrote:
> > On Apr 2, 11:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
> > wrote:
> >> Nate Nagel wrote:
> >>> On 04/02/2010 07:21 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> >>>> Tegger wrote:
> >>>>> Grumpy AuContraire > wrote in
> >>>>>news:bqqdnTzrbYBc3SjWnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@giganew s.com:
> >>>>>> boyari2 wrote:
> >>>>>>> It's the original muscle car that spawned all the other imitators,
> >>>>>>> isn't it?
> >>>>>>>http://surftofind.com/car
> >>>>>> Whatta joke...
> >>>>>> Studebaker was there before anyone else in 1962.
> >>>>>> Do some worthwhile research regarding the "Avanti."
> >>>>> Phooey on the Avanti. Go back to 1958.
> >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_Rebel>
> >>>> Phooey on the Rebel... Go back to 1957 and the Golden Hawk.
> >>>> <G>
> >>>> JT
> >>> No love for the '56? *(was trying to find the link to the news article
> >>> about the demise of my own in a literal blaze of glory, but it seems to
> >>> have expired. *However the last owner of that car has apparently
> >>> purchased another! *that's dedication...)
> >>> nate
> >> Not for me... *My ol' '56 Power Hawk is 'nuff for my purposes if I ever
> >> get the gas tank cleaned out.
>
> >> Oh, post the link as I did not know that your GH is no longer...
>
> >> JT- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Can't find the original BBC news article any longer... *Long story
> > short, I traded the car back to JDP as part of the deal to get my
> > current '55; he sold it to a gentleman in England, and when the car
> > was damaged in shipment he sent it to a classic car restoration place
> > in Bristol to be fully restored. *Then the fireworks warehouse next
> > door blew up...
>
> >http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/n...ines-boss-300-...
>
> >http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/dealersites/337/
>
> > I believe the car mentioned in the second link is another GH which the
> > same guy bought as a replacement.
>
> > it's especially sad because I happened to work on a car one serial
> > number away from and similarly optioned to mine, which is currently
> > owned by Brian Scott unless he's sold it and I didn't hear, so Brian's
> > car is now missing its "twin..."
>
> > nate
>
> I remember the '56 being traded back to JP. *I thought that you had
> parted with the '55 also...

Nope, I still have it, I just have really slowed down working on it
because my job has become much more demanding... and fortunately or
unfortunately depending on your perspective, it pays better than
working on old Studebakers.

The upside is that now I have the disposable income to buy whatever
parts I need; the downside is that it takes me a while to get around
to doing something with them.

nate

On 04/06/2010 09:35 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> N8N wrote:
>> On Apr 5, 11:43 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
>> wrote:
>>> N8N wrote:
>>>> On Apr 2, 11:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/02/2010 07:21 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>>>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>>>>>> Grumpy AuContraire > wrote in
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>> boyari2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> It's the original muscle car that spawned all the other
>>>>>>>>>> imitators,
>>>>>>>>>> isn't it?
>>>>>>>>>> http://surftofind.com/car
>>>>>>>>> Whatta joke...
>>>>>>>>> Studebaker was there before anyone else in 1962.
>>>>>>>>> Do some worthwhile research regarding the "Avanti."
>>>>>>>> Phooey on the Avanti. Go back to 1958.
>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_Rebel>
>>>>>>> Phooey on the Rebel... Go back to 1957 and the Golden Hawk.
>>>>>>> <G>
>>>>>>> JT
>>>>>> No love for the '56? (was trying to find the link to the news article
>>>>>> about the demise of my own in a literal blaze of glory, but it
>>>>>> seems to
>>>>>> have expired. However the last owner of that car has apparently
>>>>>> purchased another! that's dedication...)
>>>>>> nate
>>>>> Not for me... My ol' '56 Power Hawk is 'nuff for my purposes if I ever
>>>>> get the gas tank cleaned out.
>>>>> Oh, post the link as I did not know that your GH is no longer...
>>>>> JT- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> Can't find the original BBC news article any longer... Long story
>>>> short, I traded the car back to JDP as part of the deal to get my
>>>> current '55; he sold it to a gentleman in England, and when the car
>>>> was damaged in shipment he sent it to a classic car restoration place
>>>> in Bristol to be fully restored. Then the fireworks warehouse next
>>>> door blew up...
>>>> http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/n...ines-boss-300-...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/dealersites/337/
>>>> I believe the car mentioned in the second link is another GH which the
>>>> same guy bought as a replacement.
>>>> it's especially sad because I happened to work on a car one serial
>>>> number away from and similarly optioned to mine, which is currently
>>>> owned by Brian Scott unless he's sold it and I didn't hear, so Brian's
>>>> car is now missing its "twin..."
>>>> nate
>>> I remember the '56 being traded back to JP. I thought that you had
>>> parted with the '55 also...
>>
>> Nope, I still have it, I just have really slowed down working on it
>> because my job has become much more demanding... and fortunately or
>> unfortunately depending on your perspective, it pays better than
>> working on old Studebakers.
>>
>> The upside is that now I have the disposable income to buy whatever
>> parts I need; the downside is that it takes me a while to get around
>> to doing something with them.
>
>
>
> Yep, you better work all the hours you can while the "gettin's" is good.
>
> Anyway, the '55 is definitely a "kewel" car... Probably the most
> streamamlined other than the Avanti.
>
> I'm still hopin' to make the '55 Prez sedan a driver in the not too
> distant future. I'm going to a '59 259/Flight-O-Matic.
>
> Did you succeed with installing a single driveshaft? I'm thinking of
> doing so but the shaft for a sedan would be about 4-5" longer than the
> coupe and don't know whether it would clear the tunnel OK.
>
> JT
>

yes and no. The stock '62 4-speed driveshaft didn't come close to
working. I had one made slightly smaller but it still kisses the right
side of the tunnel. next project is to slot the holes in the
crossmember slightly to try to tweak the tailshaft over a hair - it's
that close that I think it might work, combined with traction bars to
keep the pinion from lifting.

I'd think that a sedan driveshaft would be shorter - not so? In any
case whatever the length of my shaft is, it's pushing the limits for a
single piece shaft of that diameter. It really ought to be a two piece
shaft, but I'm still waiting for a T-85/OD to fall into my lap as I have
the proper driveshaft and x-member stashed away, as well as a 3-speed
steering column.

nate

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N8N wrote:
> On Apr 5, 11:43 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
> wrote:
>> N8N wrote:
>>> On Apr 2, 11:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>> On 04/02/2010 07:21 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>>>>> Grumpy AuContraire > wrote in
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>> boyari2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It's the original muscle car that spawned all the other imitators,
>>>>>>>>> isn't it?
>>>>>>>>> http://surftofind.com/car
>>>>>>>> Whatta joke...
>>>>>>>> Studebaker was there before anyone else in 1962.
>>>>>>>> Do some worthwhile research regarding the "Avanti."
>>>>>>> Phooey on the Avanti. Go back to 1958.
>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_Rebel>
>>>>>> Phooey on the Rebel... Go back to 1957 and the Golden Hawk.
>>>>>> <G>
>>>>>> JT
>>>>> No love for the '56? (was trying to find the link to the news article
>>>>> about the demise of my own in a literal blaze of glory, but it seems to
>>>>> have expired. However the last owner of that car has apparently
>>>>> purchased another! that's dedication...)
>>>>> nate
>>>> Not for me... My ol' '56 Power Hawk is 'nuff for my purposes if I ever
>>>> get the gas tank cleaned out.
>>>> Oh, post the link as I did not know that your GH is no longer...
>>>> JT- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Can't find the original BBC news article any longer... Long story
>>> short, I traded the car back to JDP as part of the deal to get my
>>> current '55; he sold it to a gentleman in England, and when the car
>>> was damaged in shipment he sent it to a classic car restoration place
>>> in Bristol to be fully restored. Then the fireworks warehouse next
>>> door blew up...
>>> http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/n...ines-boss-300-...
>>> http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/dealersites/337/
>>> I believe the car mentioned in the second link is another GH which the
>>> same guy bought as a replacement.
>>> it's especially sad because I happened to work on a car one serial
>>> number away from and similarly optioned to mine, which is currently
>>> owned by Brian Scott unless he's sold it and I didn't hear, so Brian's
>>> car is now missing its "twin..."
>>> nate
>> I remember the '56 being traded back to JP. I thought that you had
>> parted with the '55 also...
>
> Nope, I still have it, I just have really slowed down working on it
> because my job has become much more demanding... and fortunately or
> unfortunately depending on your perspective, it pays better than
> working on old Studebakers.
>
> The upside is that now I have the disposable income to buy whatever
> parts I need; the downside is that it takes me a while to get around
> to doing something with them.



Yep, you better work all the hours you can while the "gettin's" is good.

Anyway, the '55 is definitely a "kewel" car... Probably the most
streamamlined other than the Avanti.

I'm still hopin' to make the '55 Prez sedan a driver in the not too
distant future. I'm going to a '59 259/Flight-O-Matic.

Did you succeed with installing a single driveshaft? I'm thinking of
doing so but the shaft for a sedan would be about 4-5" longer than the
coupe and don't know whether it would clear the tunnel OK.

JT

N8N wrote:
> On Apr 5, 11:43 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
> wrote:
>> N8N wrote:
>>> On Apr 2, 11:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>> On 04/02/2010 07:21 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>>>>> Grumpy AuContraire > wrote in
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>> boyari2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It's the original muscle car that spawned all the other imitators,
>>>>>>>>> isn't it?
>>>>>>>>> http://surftofind.com/car
>>>>>>>> Whatta joke...
>>>>>>>> Studebaker was there before anyone else in 1962.
>>>>>>>> Do some worthwhile research regarding the "Avanti."
>>>>>>> Phooey on the Avanti. Go back to 1958.
>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_Rebel>
>>>>>> Phooey on the Rebel... Go back to 1957 and the Golden Hawk.
>>>>>> <G>
>>>>>> JT
>>>>> No love for the '56? (was trying to find the link to the news article
>>>>> about the demise of my own in a literal blaze of glory, but it seems to
>>>>> have expired. However the last owner of that car has apparently
>>>>> purchased another! that's dedication...)
>>>>> nate
>>>> Not for me... My ol' '56 Power Hawk is 'nuff for my purposes if I ever
>>>> get the gas tank cleaned out.
>>>> Oh, post the link as I did not know that your GH is no longer...
>>>> JT- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Can't find the original BBC news article any longer... Long story
>>> short, I traded the car back to JDP as part of the deal to get my
>>> current '55; he sold it to a gentleman in England, and when the car
>>> was damaged in shipment he sent it to a classic car restoration place
>>> in Bristol to be fully restored. Then the fireworks warehouse next
>>> door blew up...
>>> http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/n...ines-boss-300-...
>>> http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/dealersites/337/
>>> I believe the car mentioned in the second link is another GH which the
>>> same guy bought as a replacement.
>>> it's especially sad because I happened to work on a car one serial
>>> number away from and similarly optioned to mine, which is currently
>>> owned by Brian Scott unless he's sold it and I didn't hear, so Brian's
>>> car is now missing its "twin..."
>>> nate
>> I remember the '56 being traded back to JP. I thought that you had
>> parted with the '55 also...
>
> Nope, I still have it, I just have really slowed down working on it
> because my job has become much more demanding... and fortunately or
> unfortunately depending on your perspective, it pays better than
> working on old Studebakers.
>
> The upside is that now I have the disposable income to buy whatever
> parts I need; the downside is that it takes me a while to get around
> to doing something with them.



Yep, you better work all the hours you can while the "gettin's" good.

Anyway, the '55 is definitely a "kewel" car... Probably the most
streamamlined other than the Avanti.

I'm still hopin' to make the '55 Prez sedan a driver in the not too
distant future. I'm going to a '59 259/Flight-O-Matic.

Did you succeed with installing a single driveshaft? I'm thinking of
doing so but the shaft for a sedan would be about 4-5" longer than the
coupe and don't know whether it would clear the tunnel OK.

JT

Nate Nagel wrote:
> On 04/06/2010 09:35 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>> N8N wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 11:43 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
>>> wrote:
>>>> N8N wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 2, 11:06 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Nate Nagel wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/02/2010 07:21 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Grumpy AuContraire > wrote in
>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>> boyari2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> It's the original muscle car that spawned all the other
>>>>>>>>>>> imitators,
>>>>>>>>>>> isn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>> http://surftofind.com/car
>>>>>>>>>> Whatta joke...
>>>>>>>>>> Studebaker was there before anyone else in 1962.
>>>>>>>>>> Do some worthwhile research regarding the "Avanti."
>>>>>>>>> Phooey on the Avanti. Go back to 1958.
>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambler_Rebel>
>>>>>>>> Phooey on the Rebel... Go back to 1957 and the Golden Hawk.
>>>>>>>> <G>
>>>>>>>> JT
>>>>>>> No love for the '56? (was trying to find the link to the news
>>>>>>> article
>>>>>>> about the demise of my own in a literal blaze of glory, but it
>>>>>>> seems to
>>>>>>> have expired. However the last owner of that car has apparently
>>>>>>> purchased another! that's dedication...)
>>>>>>> nate
>>>>>> Not for me... My ol' '56 Power Hawk is 'nuff for my purposes if I
>>>>>> ever
>>>>>> get the gas tank cleaned out.
>>>>>> Oh, post the link as I did not know that your GH is no longer...
>>>>>> JT- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> Can't find the original BBC news article any longer... Long story
>>>>> short, I traded the car back to JDP as part of the deal to get my
>>>>> current '55; he sold it to a gentleman in England, and when the car
>>>>> was damaged in shipment he sent it to a classic car restoration place
>>>>> in Bristol to be fully restored. Then the fireworks warehouse next
>>>>> door blew up...
>>>>> http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/n...ines-boss-300-...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/dealersites/337/
>>>>> I believe the car mentioned in the second link is another GH which the
>>>>> same guy bought as a replacement.
>>>>> it's especially sad because I happened to work on a car one serial
>>>>> number away from and similarly optioned to mine, which is currently
>>>>> owned by Brian Scott unless he's sold it and I didn't hear, so Brian's
>>>>> car is now missing its "twin..."
>>>>> nate
>>>> I remember the '56 being traded back to JP. I thought that you had
>>>> parted with the '55 also...
>>>
>>> Nope, I still have it, I just have really slowed down working on it
>>> because my job has become much more demanding... and fortunately or
>>> unfortunately depending on your perspective, it pays better than
>>> working on old Studebakers.
>>>
>>> The upside is that now I have the disposable income to buy whatever
>>> parts I need; the downside is that it takes me a while to get around
>>> to doing something with them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yep, you better work all the hours you can while the "gettin's" is good.
>>
>> Anyway, the '55 is definitely a "kewel" car... Probably the most
>> streamamlined other than the Avanti.
>>
>> I'm still hopin' to make the '55 Prez sedan a driver in the not too
>> distant future. I'm going to a '59 259/Flight-O-Matic.
>>
>> Did you succeed with installing a single driveshaft? I'm thinking of
>> doing so but the shaft for a sedan would be about 4-5" longer than the
>> coupe and don't know whether it would clear the tunnel OK.
>>
>> JT
>>
>
> yes and no. The stock '62 4-speed driveshaft didn't come close to
> working. I had one made slightly smaller but it still kisses the right
> side of the tunnel. next project is to slot the holes in the
> crossmember slightly to try to tweak the tailshaft over a hair - it's
> that close that I think it might work, combined with traction bars to
> keep the pinion from lifting.
>
> I'd think that a sedan driveshaft would be shorter - not so? In any
> case whatever the length of my shaft is, it's pushing the limits for a
> single piece shaft of that diameter. It really ought to be a two piece
> shaft, but I'm still waiting for a T-85/OD to fall into my lap as I have
> the proper driveshaft and x-member stashed away, as well as a 3-speed
> steering column.
>
> nate
>


No, the engine in the sedans fits about five inches further to the
front. Shorter hood but same wheelbase as the coupe which requires a
longer driveshaft.

As I understand it, all 1958 sedan models had the same single driveshaft
but I also believe that the tunnel was modified to accommodate this.

Maybe I just need to stay with the double driveshaft.

JT

> wrote in message
...
> In article >, Grumpy
> AuContraire > wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>> > In article >, "Stewart"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Left wing socialist alert!
>> >>
>> >> And to keep it on topic.....what type of Honda do you own?
>> >
>> >
>> > Nah, we socialists only drive Volvo 240s and read
> misc.transport.rail.americas.
>> > (To which I am still trying to figure out why this thread is
>> > posted).
>> >
>>
>> What???
>>
>> No Prius or Smaht Kahs???
>
>
> Ha! Those are only driven by wanna-be socialists. Too much computer
> technology, and made by corporations. The most advanced technology
> allowed near the homes of true socialists are the products of the
> Soviet
> Diesel Computer Cooperative.
>
> --
> -Glennl
> Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam, and most e-mail
> sent to this address are simply lost in the vast mess.

I like the all electrics to reduce "carbon footprint". plug 'em in to
an outlet fed by coal burning power generation......

On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 19:35:52 -0700, "Stewart" >
wrote:

>
> wrote in message
...
>> In article >, Grumpy
>> AuContraire > wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > In article >, "Stewart"
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Left wing socialist alert!
>>> >>
>>> >> And to keep it on topic.....what type of Honda do you own?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Nah, we socialists only drive Volvo 240s and read
>> misc.transport.rail.americas.
>>> > (To which I am still trying to figure out why this thread is
>>> > posted).
>>> >
>>>
>>> What???
>>>
>>> No Prius or Smaht Kahs???
>>
>>
>> Ha! Those are only driven by wanna-be socialists. Too much computer
>> technology, and made by corporations. The most advanced technology
>> allowed near the homes of true socialists are the products of the
>> Soviet
>> Diesel Computer Cooperative.
>>
>> --
>> -Glennl
>> Please note this e-mail address is a pit of spam, and most e-mail
>> sent to this address are simply lost in the vast mess.
>
>I like the all electrics to reduce "carbon footprint". plug 'em in to
>an outlet fed by coal burning power generation......
>

Right, but the question is how to best deliver people where they want
to go with the least harmful impact on the environment. Is that a bad
goal?

Hopefully electric cars are part of the solution, and the electricity
can be produced by a cleaner method than coal.