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Audi body design errors
Dear folks,
yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 and A6 cars. They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb in and out of the car. I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. Bests LHR |
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On Feb 18, 1:23*am, laurentien > wrote:
> Dear folks, > > yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi > dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. > > Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as > it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars > are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 > and A6 cars. > > They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and > this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit > on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window > even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb > in and out of the car. > > I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 > roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. > I do not believe these two are designed with your stated purpose in mind. What prevents you from going the A6 or A8 route? |
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On Feb 18, 12:18*pm, AD > wrote:
> On Feb 18, 1:23*am, laurentien > wrote: > > > Dear folks, > > > yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi > > dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. > > > Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as > > it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars > > are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 > > and A6 cars. > > > They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and > > this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit > > on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window > > even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb > > in and out of the car. > > > I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 > > roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. > > I do not believe these two are designed with your stated purpose in > mind. > What prevents you from going the A6 or A8 route? Question of preference and as a client my choice is important. I am considering the A6 but I find the hatchback more convenient. I do prefer the A5 five door designs as long as they can fit adults in all four main seats. Remember the Saab 9000, much more practical then its sister car the Lancia Thema. I may settle for the Citroen C5 next time. LHR |
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On Feb 23, 3:47*am, laurentien > wrote:
> On Feb 18, 12:18*pm, AD > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 18, 1:23*am, laurentien > wrote: > > > > Dear folks, > > > > yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi > > > dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. > > > > Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as > > > it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars > > > are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 > > > and A6 cars. > > > > They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and > > > this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit > > > on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window > > > even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb > > > in and out of the car. > > > > I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 > > > roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. > > > I do not believe these two are designed with your stated purpose in > > mind. > > What prevents you from going the A6 or A8 route? > > Question of preference and as a client my choice is important. > I am considering the A6 but I find the hatchback more convenient. > I do prefer the A5 five door designs as long as they can fit adults in > all four main seats. > Remember the Saab 9000, much more practical then its sister car the > Lancia Thema. > > I may settle for the Citroen C5 next time. > Since you can get C5 I assume you are in the market where A6 is offered in a hatch trim also. I'd sooner buy a station wagon than a hatch. It seems to me neither fish nor fowl. M6 is one possible exception, but it's a car on stilts so it's not really a hatch you see. |
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I have checked the Citroen C5 today and they have the same problem as
the A5 lowering roof which prevents tall people to sit in the back. Many other cars like the new Opel Insigna or even a long list of Asian cars now have the same problems. Why is it that those designers do not design cars with proper head roofs and large back doors for easy access. Even on my Audi 80, one person did hit her head going through the back door. Bests On 25 fév, 00:54, AD > wrote: > On Feb 23, 3:47*am, laurentien > wrote: > > > On Feb 18, 12:18*pm, AD > wrote: > > > > On Feb 18, 1:23*am, laurentien > wrote: > > > > > Dear folks, > > > > > yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi > > > > dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. > > > > > Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as > > > > it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars > > > > are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 > > > > and A6 cars. > > > > > They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and > > > > this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit > > > > on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window > > > > even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb > > > > in and out of the car. > > > > > I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 > > > > roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. > > > > I do not believe these two are designed with your stated purpose in > > > mind. > > > What prevents you from going the A6 or A8 route? > > > Question of preference and as a client my choice is important. > > I am considering the A6 but I find the hatchback more convenient. > > I do prefer the A5 five door designs as long as they can fit adults in > > all four main seats. > > Remember the Saab 9000, much more practical then its sister car the > > Lancia Thema. > > > I may settle for the Citroen C5 next time. > > Since you can get C5 I assume you are in the market where A6 is > offered in a hatch trim also. > I'd sooner buy a station wagon than a hatch. It seems to me neither > fish nor fowl. > M6 is one possible exception, but it's a car on stilts so it's not > really a hatch you see. |
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On Feb 28, 12:35*pm, laurentien > wrote:
> I have checked the Citroen C5 today and they have the same problem as > the A5 lowering roof > which prevents tall people to sit in the back. > Many other cars like the new Opel Insigna or even a long list of Asian > cars now have the same problems. > > Why is it that those designers do not design cars with proper head > roofs and large back doors for easy access. > Even on my Audi 80, one person did hit her head going through the back > door. > > Bests > > On 25 fév, 00:54, AD > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 23, 3:47*am, laurentien > wrote: > > > > On Feb 18, 12:18*pm, AD > wrote: > > > > > On Feb 18, 1:23*am, laurentien > wrote: > > > > > > Dear folks, > > > > > > yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi > > > > > dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. > > > > > > Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as > > > > > it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars > > > > > are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 > > > > > and A6 cars. > > > > > > They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and > > > > > this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit > > > > > on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window > > > > > even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb > > > > > in and out of the car. > > > > > > I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 > > > > > roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. > > > > > I do not believe these two are designed with your stated purpose in > > > > mind. > > > > What prevents you from going the A6 or A8 route? > > > > Question of preference and as a client my choice is important. > > > I am considering the A6 but I find the hatchback more convenient. > > > I do prefer the A5 five door designs as long as they can fit adults in > > > all four main seats. > > > Remember the Saab 9000, much more practical then its sister car the > > > Lancia Thema. > > > > I may settle for the Citroen C5 next time. > > > Since you can get C5 I assume you are in the market where A6 is > > offered in a hatch trim also. > > I'd sooner buy a station wagon than a hatch. It seems to me neither > > fish nor fowl. > > M6 is one possible exception, but it's a car on stilts so it's not > > really a hatch you see. Someone has to buy a forrester. Then, it might be you. Leave decent cars to smaller folks. We have to have something left for us in the increasingly guilliverish world. |
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On 2011-02-18 04:23:25 -0500, laurentien > said:
> Dear folks, > > yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi > dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. > > Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as > it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars > are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 > and A6 cars. > > They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and > this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit > on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window > even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb > in and out of the car. > > I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 > roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. > > Bests > > LHR They were designed as coupes (even though the A7 is a four door). Look at MB's E-class coupe and the CLS four-door coupe. They weren't designed to carry people for back seat passengers on long trips. There is no "design errors". Dave RS6 |
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In article <2011022216334116807-davplac@aolcom>,
D. LaCourse > wrote: > On 2011-02-18 04:23:25 -0500, laurentien > said: > > > Dear folks, > > > > yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi > > dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. > > > > Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as > > it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars > > are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 > > and A6 cars. > > > > They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and > > this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit > > on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window > > even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb > > in and out of the car. > > > > I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 > > roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. > > > > Bests > > > > LHR > > They were designed as coupes (even though the A7 is a four door). Look > at MB's E-class coupe and the CLS four-door coupe. They weren't > designed to carry people for back seat passengers on long trips. There > is no "design errors". > > Dave > RS6 Thanks to SUVs, small cars need to be reinforced much higher up than they used to. Compare the doors and roof of a 1980 car to a 2010 car. Manufacturers are lowering the floor and roof to partially compensate for the handling and gas milage losses caused by all that metal. -- I will not see posts from Google or e-mails from Yahoo because I must filter them as spam |
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On 2011-02-22 23:51:53 -0500, Kevin McMurtrie > said:
> In article <2011022216334116807-davplac@aolcom>, > D. LaCourse > wrote: > >> On 2011-02-18 04:23:25 -0500, laurentien > said: >> >>> Dear folks, >>> >>> yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi >>> dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. >>> >>> Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as >>> it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars >>> are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 >>> and A6 cars. >>> >>> They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and >>> this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit >>> on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window >>> even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb >>> in and out of the car. >>> >>> I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 >>> roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. >>> >>> Bests >>> >>> LHR >> >> They were designed as coupes (even though the A7 is a four door). Look >> at MB's E-class coupe and the CLS four-door coupe. They weren't >> designed to carry people for back seat passengers on long trips. There >> is no "design errors". >> >> Dave >> RS6 > > Thanks to SUVs, small cars need to be reinforced much higher up than > they used to. Compare the doors and roof of a 1980 car to a 2010 car. > Manufacturers are lowering the floor and roof to partially compensate > for the handling and gas milage losses caused by all that metal. And my 57 Buick can beat your 1980 whatchamacallit. Cars are safer today than they were in 1980. The Audis in question were *designed* as coupes. If you don't want a coupe, don't buy one. Simple, really. Dave RS6 |
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On Feb 22, 4:33*pm, D. LaCourse > wrote:
> On 2011-02-18 04:23:25 -0500, laurentien > said: > > > > > Dear folks, > > > yesterday I took my very reliable Audi 80 for some service at the Audi > > dealer an did try the A5 and A7 five door cars. > > > Altough these cars look very nice and the interior trim is as good as > > it gets with even an ergonomic control panel (at last), those two cars > > are now plagued by body design errors which you do not find on the A4 > > and A6 cars. > > > They have increased the roof curve to make it look even sleeker and > > this results in the problem that a tall man (like myself) cannot sit > > on the back seats. Worst, the design have made the back door window > > even more slanted towards the front making it very difficult to climb > > in and out of the car. > > > I would strongly suggest to Audi that they do redesign their A5 and A7 > > roof line in order for tall adults to sit in the back. > > > Bests > > > LHR > > They were designed as coupes (even though the A7 is a four door). *Look > at MB's E-class coupe and the CLS four-door coupe. *They weren't * > designed to carry people for back seat passengers on long trips. *There > is no "design errors". > > Dave > RS6 I have to disagree there. I am sorry to say that I do not necessarily consider these MB cars very well designed. I know a lot of coupes out there made to carry tall people in the back, remember the Audi Coupe ? It could fit two large adults in excellent seats at the back. Peugeot has its 406 and 407 coupes able to carry people in the back, otherwise, they should call these car 2+2. Then, I like to buy five door versions of cars being more practical and having a nice shape, like the Citroen C5 for example. But they have to be able to fit four tall adults. LHR |
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