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On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:34:32 -0400, "\"Doc\"" > wrote:
> >New compressors are half that amount, remans even less. > >Doc Remans are crap in general. The compressor in his vehicle does not rebuild well at all... Generally one of these rebuilt last one season if you are lucky. The factory part was over $400 when I bought one two years ago. Prices could be a little higher or lower but I would expect it to still be in the same range. Steve B. |
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Hey Doc!
These guys don't know anything about wholesale, and still frequent the dealers and the corner parts store. Now about we sell them a seminar on how to make money and save the customer half on the part. While still making money! Ciao! Refinish King ""Doc"" > wrote in message ... > > "Steve B." <this is not my real [email protected]> wrote in message > ... > > On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:45:56 -0400, "Spiderman" > > > wrote: > > > > >The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I > can > > >hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of > > >adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to > > >retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this? > > > > > You should not mix refrigerants. If you want to change types the > > system needs to be evacuated and then recharged with the correct > > amount of new refrigerant. > > > > In this case if the compressor still clicks on but you get no cooling > > it could very easily be any number of problems. I would have a pro > > check out the system and tell you whats wrong even if you decide not > > to have them fix it. > > > > You can kill your compressor pretty easy and a new one is going to > > cost you around $450 just for the part. Better to have a good > > diagnosis before you try anything. > > > > Steve B. > > New compressors are half that amount, remans even less. > > Doc > > > |
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Hey Doc!
These guys don't know anything about wholesale, and still frequent the dealers and the corner parts store. Now about we sell them a seminar on how to make money and save the customer half on the part. While still making money! Ciao! Refinish King ""Doc"" > wrote in message ... > > "Steve B." <this is not my real [email protected]> wrote in message > ... > > On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:45:56 -0400, "Spiderman" > > > wrote: > > > > >The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I > can > > >hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of > > >adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to > > >retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this? > > > > > You should not mix refrigerants. If you want to change types the > > system needs to be evacuated and then recharged with the correct > > amount of new refrigerant. > > > > In this case if the compressor still clicks on but you get no cooling > > it could very easily be any number of problems. I would have a pro > > check out the system and tell you whats wrong even if you decide not > > to have them fix it. > > > > You can kill your compressor pretty easy and a new one is going to > > cost you around $450 just for the part. Better to have a good > > diagnosis before you try anything. > > > > Steve B. > > New compressors are half that amount, remans even less. > > Doc > > > |
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"Steve B." <this is not my real [email protected]> wrote in message ... > On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:34:32 -0400, "\"Doc\"" > wrote: > > > > >New compressors are half that amount, remans even less. > > > >Doc > > > Remans are crap in general. The compressor in his vehicle does not > rebuild well at all... Generally one of these rebuilt last one season > if you are lucky. > > The factory part was over $400 when I bought one two years ago. > Prices could be a little higher or lower but I would expect it to > still be in the same range. > Hmm - I don't know the said compressor but if it's that DA-6 job that GM used, I have a rebuilt one in my 84 Celebrity that I installed, and it has lasted several seasons. I think the rebuilds get a bad rap because since they are cheap, the people buying them are mostly looking for a quick and fast fix to their A/C system. So instead of doing the job right - meaning also replacing the accumulator, expansion orifice, and flushing all tubing in the system out, they just slap in a reman compressor. The thing then blows up a year later after getting ruined by contaminants left in the system. Ted |
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"Steve B." <this is not my real [email protected]> wrote in message ... > On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:34:32 -0400, "\"Doc\"" > wrote: > > > > >New compressors are half that amount, remans even less. > > > >Doc > > > Remans are crap in general. The compressor in his vehicle does not > rebuild well at all... Generally one of these rebuilt last one season > if you are lucky. > > The factory part was over $400 when I bought one two years ago. > Prices could be a little higher or lower but I would expect it to > still be in the same range. > Hmm - I don't know the said compressor but if it's that DA-6 job that GM used, I have a rebuilt one in my 84 Celebrity that I installed, and it has lasted several seasons. I think the rebuilds get a bad rap because since they are cheap, the people buying them are mostly looking for a quick and fast fix to their A/C system. So instead of doing the job right - meaning also replacing the accumulator, expansion orifice, and flushing all tubing in the system out, they just slap in a reman compressor. The thing then blows up a year later after getting ruined by contaminants left in the system. Ted |
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On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:45:56 -0400, "Spiderman" > wrote:
||The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I can ||hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of ||adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to ||retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this? I'm surprised the compressor would kick in if it's low on refrigerant. It should have a low pressure switch on the accumulator that cuts the clutch circuit if the pressure drops below a certain point. So you may have another problem. Maybe a duct mixer door is not opening. But if you do need to add refrigerant, stay with R12. You can still buy it if you watch the clasifieds. Even at $30/pound it's cheaper and colder than anything you could change to, all things considered. Texas Parts Guy |
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On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:45:56 -0400, "Spiderman" > wrote:
||The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I can ||hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of ||adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to ||retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this? I'm surprised the compressor would kick in if it's low on refrigerant. It should have a low pressure switch on the accumulator that cuts the clutch circuit if the pressure drops below a certain point. So you may have another problem. Maybe a duct mixer door is not opening. But if you do need to add refrigerant, stay with R12. You can still buy it if you watch the clasifieds. Even at $30/pound it's cheaper and colder than anything you could change to, all things considered. Texas Parts Guy |
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"Spiderman" > wrote in message ... > The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I can > hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of > adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to > retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this? > NO! Don't waste your time. Change to r134. Freeze 12 is not compatable with r12! Freeze 12 is not compatable with anything other than mineral oil! Freeze 12 can be used with mineral oil, ester oil, or a mixture. To change to Freeze 12 you have to vacumn your system to remove all the r12, then add 3 ozs of oil, (preferablely ester) before you add the Freeze 12. If you do change to Freeze 12 then you are stuck to doing all the work on your AC yourself, as AC shops are not going to buy a complete set of equipment for use with Freeze 12. An AC shop has to have a complete set of equipment for r12 and r134 now. Why buy a set for limited use with Freeze 12? Just convert to r134 its is cheaper, and easier to have a working system. -- Diamond Jim The Old Devildog |
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"Spiderman" > wrote in message ... > The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I can > hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of > adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to > retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this? > NO! Don't waste your time. Change to r134. Freeze 12 is not compatable with r12! Freeze 12 is not compatable with anything other than mineral oil! Freeze 12 can be used with mineral oil, ester oil, or a mixture. To change to Freeze 12 you have to vacumn your system to remove all the r12, then add 3 ozs of oil, (preferablely ester) before you add the Freeze 12. If you do change to Freeze 12 then you are stuck to doing all the work on your AC yourself, as AC shops are not going to buy a complete set of equipment for use with Freeze 12. An AC shop has to have a complete set of equipment for r12 and r134 now. Why buy a set for limited use with Freeze 12? Just convert to r134 its is cheaper, and easier to have a working system. -- Diamond Jim The Old Devildog |
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> NO! Don't waste your time. > > Change to r134. > > Freeze 12 is not compatable with r12! Freeze 12 is not compatable with > anything other than mineral oil! Freeze 12 can be used with mineral oil, > ester oil, or a mixture. > > To change to Freeze 12 you have to vacumn your system to remove all the r12, > then add 3 ozs of oil, (preferablely ester) before you add the Freeze 12. If > you do change to Freeze 12 then you are stuck to doing all the work on your > AC yourself, as AC shops are not going to buy a complete set of equipment > for use with Freeze 12. An AC shop has to have a complete set of equipment > for r12 and r134 now. Why buy a set for limited use with Freeze 12? > > Just convert to r134 its is cheaper, and easier to have a working system. > > -- > Diamond Jim > The Old Devildog > No! Don't waste your time! Just get your R12 system fixed. It was built for it and it's still available. |
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