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Can Sim-Racing Help With Real Racing?
This subject has been beat to death in the past. There were always
people who would absolutely deny that sim-racing could have any benefit to real life racing. I've always thought that it does - even back when driving GP1-World Circuit. It's interesting to see that viewpoint go away so suddenly. Are there still people who feel that way? Now there are numerous professional drivers who openly talk about the various benefits of practicing with racing sims. iRacing has come along with the sole objective of providing a race training tool. With high-fidelity sim software, triple monitor displays, and good FF steering wheels (not to mention the GS-1), the sim racing experience is getting closer and closer to reality. When I started racing karts after years of online racing, part of the reason was to see for myself if my sim-racing experience was helpful. For me personally, sim-racing has helped substantially in many ways. 1) I've never gotten nervous when getting into a kart or car. This is apparently a big deal. I've heard of people becoming physically ill prior to their first race. I was more nervous in my first Nascar 1 Hawaii online race than I've ever been in real life. It was the same when GPL came out - I felt some nervousness before those first online races. I must have gotten it out of my system while online, because I've never felt that in real life. Racing in real lift has always felt comfortable natural after 1000's of online races. 2) I had a lot more than a vague idea about how to set up a kart chassis, and had a good idea of how to make adjustments to fix handling problems. Now, in some ways karts work a lot different than a car. It took a while to figure that out, but I had a good basic understanding of racing physics when starting out in karts. 3) Racing lines; I was able to try different lines, set up passes, and feel comfortable in traffic right from the beginning. All of that was learned in sim-racing before ever turning a lap on a real race track. 4) Avoiding trouble on the track; I dont' think the benefit of this can be overstated! After hundreds upon hundreds of pick-up races, dodging spinning cars has become second nature. I can't tell you how many times I've seen experienced real-life racers who are unable to avoid on-track incidents. I've been in the middle of packs of karts where someone gets out of control and takes out half the field. I'm somehow able to get out of those situations. In five years of kart racing, the number of times that I've hit someone hard enough to damage equipment can be counted on one hand. Others seem incapable of avoiding anything, and seem to always find contact with other karts. Those are just a few thoughts that come to mind. I'm sure there are more. Pat Dotson |
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I think the benefits are mostly in learning the track and learning/playing with different lines. Until G forces and "feel" are somehow wired in there is no comparison to driving a car at speed and a computer sim. I guess if you crank the volume up so loud that the other cars drown out your engine and you have to drive by feel and guages/idiot lights that would be another helpful tool. My $.02, and I do race cars, but not carts. GP >On 5 Jan 2007 06:53:59 -0800, wrote: >This subject has been beat to death in the past. There were always >people who would absolutely deny that sim-racing could have any benefit >to real life racing. I've always thought that it does - even back when >driving GP1-World Circuit. It's interesting to see that viewpoint go >away so suddenly. Are there still people who feel that way? |
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If there weren't some crossover of applicabilty there wouldn't be as
many RL racers who excel in the sims. You know who they are, it's practically a given. It's questionable that the reverse holds true, viz. Jan Kohl's experiences as related in ASS (what an acronym...) magazine. Compare tennis and golf. Not a precise comparison, but numerous ex-tennis take up golf and become *very* low handicap players. For example, Sampras and Connors. Ivan Lendl nearly earned a PGA card, IIRC. Althea Gibson turned pro after retiring from tennis. The hand/eye skills transfer. But not, apparently, from golf to tennis. Therefore tennis is more demanding (?). Actual autoracing is harder than simracing, but the best have abundant childhood opportunities and financial support. |
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Can Sim-Racing Help With Real Racing?
its like asking if flight sims can help with real flying.
duh, the answer isyes. I went to a school with a big aviation prog and students had to spend something like 60 hours in the sim before they ever got in the plane. physics are physics, sight is sight. I have driven 2400 laps in gtr2 in 3 months. how many real racers can get this much practice in, and at what cost. who was the nascar driver that won his first ever race at a track by playing a sim? its like watching hours and hours oftrack video with the added involvement of actually doing it. also,in speed secrets 2, championship real world driver ross bentley mentions many benefits of sim driving. sim driving accurately simulates things like engine-input shaft-output shaft-differential relationship, so the same downshift blip you use in real life is the same blip you use in gtr2. it teaches you the balance and smoothness you need to maximize grip. it teaches you pit strategy and preserving tires in a long race. sim driving can teach quite a bit and will become more important in the nrxt few years |
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It's not racing, but I can relate to a certain extent and I think that
sim racing has helped me. In my present occupation, I often drive at speeds 2 - 2 1/2 times the posted limits, while enroute to a call. This is done in good weather and poor, day and night, wet and dry, etc. The specific example I can pull up is wet weather. When approaching an intersection that will required a sharp turn, I have felt the brakes lock and by easing off the pedal, I regained max. brake power as well as control of the steering. Additionally, the occasional oversteer situation is quickly snapped back with proper countersteer. There are few places aside from a racing or high performance driving school where those skills can be honed safely. I am certain that there are other situations where something that was happening to me had occurred previously in a sim race, and as a result, I knew how to handle it. |
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