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Old January 15th 10, 02:09 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default 1998 SL2 hesitates when stepping on gas pedal

We have a 1998 SL2 with 105K miles. Recently it started hesitating
when stepping on the gas pedal quickly. When idling it wants to
stall. When moving along and stepping on the pedal it stutters for a
moment.

SES light is off. Engine runs cold (thermostat replacement as soon as
it's warm enough out) and idles at 1500 RPM.

Any ideas? The stutter reminds me of vaccum leaks back in the
distributor/rotor days or a bad carb.

Thanks!
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Old January 15th 10, 03:07 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default 1998 SL2 hesitates when stepping on gas pedal

In article >, somebody > wrote:
>We have a 1998 SL2 with 105K miles. Recently it started hesitating
>when stepping on the gas pedal quickly. When idling it wants to
>stall. When moving along and stepping on the pedal it stutters for a
>moment.
>
>SES light is off. Engine runs cold (thermostat replacement as soon as
>it's warm enough out) and idles at 1500 RPM.
>
>Any ideas? The stutter reminds me of vaccum leaks back in the
>distributor/rotor days or a bad carb.


Have you checked for vacuum leaks?
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Old January 15th 10, 11:44 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default 1998 SL2 hesitates when stepping on gas pedal

I had the same problem with my 98 SL2 cleaned the throttle and now it runs
fine.


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Old January 15th 10, 09:06 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default 1998 SL2 hesitates when stepping on gas pedal



"somebody" > wrote in message
...
> We have a 1998 SL2 with 105K miles. Recently it started hesitating
> when stepping on the gas pedal quickly. When idling it wants to
> stall. When moving along and stepping on the pedal it stutters for a
> moment.
>
> SES light is off. Engine runs cold (thermostat replacement as soon as
> it's warm enough out) and idles at 1500 RPM.
>
> Any ideas? The stutter reminds me of vaccum leaks back in the
> distributor/rotor days or a bad carb.
>
> Thanks!


If the engine always runs cold, it will be running rich, uses fuel and
possibly floods on accel.

Most of the codes are set when the engine is at operating temperature. If it
never thinks it has warmed up, codes may not be set.
I'd replace the thermostat and if symptoms persist, have it checked with a
scanner (much more comprehensive than a code reader).

Then there's always the possibility that the SES light is blown out. Do you
get the check engine and service lights at key-on lamp check?

Oppie

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Old January 16th 10, 02:58 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default 1998 SL2 hesitates when stepping on gas pedal

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:06:52 -0500, "Oppie" >
wrote:

>
>
>"somebody" > wrote in message
.. .
>> We have a 1998 SL2 with 105K miles. Recently it started hesitating
>> when stepping on the gas pedal quickly. When idling it wants to
>> stall. When moving along and stepping on the pedal it stutters for a
>> moment.
>>
>> SES light is off. Engine runs cold (thermostat replacement as soon as
>> it's warm enough out) and idles at 1500 RPM.
>>
>> Any ideas? The stutter reminds me of vaccum leaks back in the
>> distributor/rotor days or a bad carb.
>>
>> Thanks!

>
>If the engine always runs cold, it will be running rich, uses fuel and
>possibly floods on accel.
>
>Most of the codes are set when the engine is at operating temperature. If it
>never thinks it has warmed up, codes may not be set.
>I'd replace the thermostat and if symptoms persist, have it checked with a
>scanner (much more comprehensive than a code reader).
>
>Then there's always the possibility that the SES light is blown out. Do you
>get the check engine and service lights at key-on lamp check?
>
>Oppie


I'm having the thermostat replaced tomorrow, too cold out to mess with
it myself. All the vacuum hoses look OK, and the engine runs OK for
the first few minutes, until the car warms up a little. The SES came
on with low coolant temperature. We'll find out soon.

Thanks for the replies!
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Old January 16th 10, 06:11 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default 1998 SL2 hesitates when stepping on gas pedal

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:44:40 -0500, "Bill" > wrote:

>I had the same problem with my 98 SL2 cleaned the throttle and now it runs
>fine.
>


How did you clean it and what brand was the stuff?
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Old January 16th 10, 06:13 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default 1998 SL2 hesitates when stepping on gas pedal

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:06:52 -0500, "Oppie" >
wrote:

>
>
>"somebody" > wrote in message
.. .
>> We have a 1998 SL2 with 105K miles. Recently it started hesitating
>> when stepping on the gas pedal quickly. When idling it wants to
>> stall. When moving along and stepping on the pedal it stutters for a
>> moment.
>>
>> SES light is off. Engine runs cold (thermostat replacement as soon as
>> it's warm enough out) and idles at 1500 RPM.
>>
>> Any ideas? The stutter reminds me of vaccum leaks back in the
>> distributor/rotor days or a bad carb.
>>
>> Thanks!

>
>If the engine always runs cold, it will be running rich, uses fuel and
>possibly floods on accel.
>
>Most of the codes are set when the engine is at operating temperature. If it
>never thinks it has warmed up, codes may not be set.
>I'd replace the thermostat and if symptoms persist, have it checked with a
>scanner (much more comprehensive than a code reader).
>
>Then there's always the possibility that the SES light is blown out. Do you
>get the check engine and service lights at key-on lamp check?
>
>Oppie


Replaced the thermostat today. The SES light went out and there's
lots of heat.

But the temperature gauge doesn't move a bit and it still
stalls/hesitates. Is there a quick test for the temperature sensor?
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Old January 16th 10, 07:56 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default 1998 SL2 hesitates when stepping on gas pedal

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:13:14 -0500, somebody >
wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:06:52 -0500, "Oppie" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"somebody" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> We have a 1998 SL2 with 105K miles. Recently it started hesitating
>>> when stepping on the gas pedal quickly. When idling it wants to
>>> stall. When moving along and stepping on the pedal it stutters for a
>>> moment.
>>>
>>> SES light is off. Engine runs cold (thermostat replacement as soon as
>>> it's warm enough out) and idles at 1500 RPM.
>>>
>>> Any ideas? The stutter reminds me of vaccum leaks back in the
>>> distributor/rotor days or a bad carb.
>>>
>>> Thanks!

>>
>>If the engine always runs cold, it will be running rich, uses fuel and
>>possibly floods on accel.
>>
>>Most of the codes are set when the engine is at operating temperature. If it
>>never thinks it has warmed up, codes may not be set.
>>I'd replace the thermostat and if symptoms persist, have it checked with a
>>scanner (much more comprehensive than a code reader).
>>
>>Then there's always the possibility that the SES light is blown out. Do you
>>get the check engine and service lights at key-on lamp check?
>>
>>Oppie

>
>Replaced the thermostat today. The SES light went out and there's
>lots of heat.
>
>But the temperature gauge doesn't move a bit and it still
>stalls/hesitates. Is there a quick test for the temperature sensor?


A $10.00 ECTS (engine coolant temperature sensor) took care of the
temperature gauge and now it runs fine. The original was the plastic
version and it had a crack in it. Will change the oil becaus it's due
and we're done for the day.

Thanks for all who replied!
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Old January 17th 10, 04:20 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default 1998 SL2 hesitates when stepping on gas pedal



"somebody" > wrote in message
...
> A $10.00 ECTS (engine coolant temperature sensor) took care of the
> temperature gauge and now it runs fine. The original was the plastic
> version and it had a crack in it. Will change the oil becaus it's due
> and we're done for the day.
>
> Thanks for all who replied!


Lucky guess.
The engine controller 'learns' and adapts (to an extent, at least). Often
times, when you fix one thing, you have to either reset the controller
(remove the battery cable to dump memory or by OBDII) or wait for it to
re-learn the new conditions.

Glad it all worked out for you. -Oppie

 




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