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Old November 13th 10, 12:27 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
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Dear Everyone,
as you know the price of the Oil is more and more increasing, while
the oil supply is decreasing. Moreover Oil
is causing wars, terror, oil spills and a lot of greenhouse gases.
By upgrading your car to flex fuel, you will continue to be able to
use oil. However you will also have the
opportunity to use E85, that means more freedom of choice. The
conversion cost is about 200-250 USD.
By choosing ethanol, you choose local fuel production, which means
labour for farmers, labour for enginneers
and workers in the ethanol plant, labour for transportation. Moreover
you also help for indirect labour. Since
the money stays in your country, this money will turn and produce
indirect labour. Since the farmer will gain
your additional fuel money, he will buy other things (labour is again
needed for their production), which in case
of oil the oil-Sheikhs or their people would do.
That ethanol production increases the food prices is also not totally
right, first there is a by-product called
"distillers dried grains with solubles", which is used as feed for
livestock, that is also nothing else than
food. Moreover, by using ethanol, you put pressure on oil prices,
which has also an important effect on food
prices. You also give your money for more research (again labour),
which will yield in higher efficiency of
production and alternative production methods like cellulosic ethanol,
which will change the whole equation.
Again in case of oil this money would be spent for oil rigs, oil-
infrastructure, but also for weapons to
defend the oil.
By using ethanol, you produce less CO2, since it is produced by corn,
which actually consumed the CO2 in the air
for its growing. The more people use ethanol, the higher the
efficiencies will come for production (similar to
solar cells). The prices will go further down, and much less CO2 will
be produced during production in the plant.
Do you know that the production efficiencies already improved 30% ?*
Another reason for using ethanol is that oil prices will come up
again, when the barrel price of 150 USD is back
you will be very happy to have your vehicle converted. The conversion
also increases the value of your vehicle.

Yours sincerely.


Sources:
*http://brownfieldagnews.com/2010/09/...on-efficiency-
improves/
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Old November 13th 10, 04:19 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent[_4_]
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On 2010-11-13, Paul Hovnanian P.E. > wrote:
> You can brew the ethanol yourself and bypass the annoying fuel taxes.


Until the government learns of it.

The Illinois dept of revenue sends people out to harrass those who brew
their own fuel. Yes, they spend thousands to collect pennies.




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Old November 15th 10, 03:14 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
Matthew Russotto
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In article >,
Brent > wrote:
>On 2010-11-13, Paul Hovnanian P.E. > wrote:
>> You can brew the ethanol yourself and bypass the annoying fuel taxes.

>
>Until the government learns of it.
>
>The Illinois dept of revenue sends people out to harrass those who brew
>their own fuel. Yes, they spend thousands to collect pennies.


And if you try to pay the tax, they tell you it's impossible unless
you make 10,000 gallons/year or something.
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Old November 15th 10, 04:32 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent[_4_]
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On 2010-11-15, Matthew Russotto > wrote:
> In article >,
> Brent > wrote:
>>On 2010-11-13, Paul Hovnanian P.E. > wrote:
>>> You can brew the ethanol yourself and bypass the annoying fuel taxes.

>>
>>Until the government learns of it.
>>
>>The Illinois dept of revenue sends people out to harrass those who brew
>>their own fuel. Yes, they spend thousands to collect pennies.

>
> And if you try to pay the tax, they tell you it's impossible unless
> you make 10,000 gallons/year or something.


And file for licenses as a fuel manufacturer and put up bond money to
the tune of a couple grand or more.

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Old November 15th 10, 05:40 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:19:16 +0000 (UTC), Brent
> wrote:

>On 2010-11-13, Paul Hovnanian P.E. > wrote:
>> You can brew the ethanol yourself and bypass the annoying fuel taxes.

>
>Until the government learns of it.
>
>The Illinois dept of revenue sends people out to harrass those who brew
>their own fuel. Yes, they spend thousands to collect pennies.


And people wonder why america (sic) in general is swirling down the
loo...

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Old November 16th 10, 03:51 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
Brent[_4_]
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On 2010-11-15, necromancer <Zidane's_Last_Red_Card@worldofnecromancer_no_spam _no_way.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:19:16 +0000 (UTC), Brent
> wrote:
>
>>On 2010-11-13, Paul Hovnanian P.E. > wrote:
>>> You can brew the ethanol yourself and bypass the annoying fuel taxes.

>>
>>Until the government learns of it.
>>
>>The Illinois dept of revenue sends people out to harrass those who brew
>>their own fuel. Yes, they spend thousands to collect pennies.

>
> And people wonder why america (sic) in general is swirling down the
> loo...


Don't you know, the way to prosperity is government intervention for the
the insider interests and stomping out any sort of creativity! We can be
wonderfully wealthy like the people of the soviet bloc and North Korea.


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Old November 16th 10, 04:51 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
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On Nov 13, 11:19*am, Brent > wrote:
>
> The Illinois dept of revenue sends people out to harrass those who brew
> their own fuel.


Really? Lots of people in IL are distilling their own fuel, and
getting busted for it?

> Yes, they spend thousands to collect pennies.


Saw it on the interweb...?
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Old November 18th 10, 04:19 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
Matthew Russotto
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In article >,
Brent > wrote:
>On 2010-11-15, Matthew Russotto > wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Brent > wrote:
>>>On 2010-11-13, Paul Hovnanian P.E. > wrote:
>>>> You can brew the ethanol yourself and bypass the annoying fuel taxes.
>>>
>>>Until the government learns of it.
>>>
>>>The Illinois dept of revenue sends people out to harrass those who brew
>>>their own fuel. Yes, they spend thousands to collect pennies.

>>
>> And if you try to pay the tax, they tell you it's impossible unless
>> you make 10,000 gallons/year or something.

>
>And file for licenses as a fuel manufacturer and put up bond money to
>the tune of a couple grand or more.


You can't make this stuff up. And if you could, your name would be
Joseph Heller. Or maybe Franz Kafka.

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someone with less ability and more need.
 




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