Tires that actually last

I bought some Yokohama tires at Discount *ires.

They have a 60K warranty.

But after 15K miles, the tire tread indicator is already showing.

Are there tires that actually last to their rated warranties?

Thanks,
Andy

On 18/12/20 11:44 am, AK wrote:
> I bought some Yokohama tires at Discount *ires.
>
> They have a 60K warranty.
>
> But after 15K miles, the tire tread indicator is already showing.
>
> Are there tires that actually last to their rated warranties?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
I get 80K out of my OEM fitments as a rule. Maybe you should try doing
fewer burnouts?

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Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

AK > wrote:
> I bought some Yokohama tires at Discount *ires.
>
> They have a 60K warranty.
>
> But after 15K miles, the tire tread indicator is already showing.
>
> Are there tires that actually last to their rated warranties?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy

Are the worn tires on the front? If so, your toe-in or
alignment might be the cause of tire wear.

On 18/12/20 2:03 pm, root wrote:
> AK > wrote:
>> I bought some Yokohama tires at Discount *ires.
>>
>> They have a 60K warranty.
>>
>> But after 15K miles, the tire tread indicator is already showing.
>>
>> Are there tires that actually last to their rated warranties?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy
>
> Are the worn tires on the front? If so, your toe-in or
> alignment might be the cause of tire wear.
>
Most *decent tyre places* will do a wheel alignment check at the same
time new tyres are fitted, especially if the existing tyres show
evidence of alignment issues. Every time I've had new tyres fitted, a
wheel balance and alignment was a requirement for any warranty
expectation. Need to start the tyre life from a known point. FWIW, any
alignment should begin with a steering and suspension *condition check*.

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Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:57:10 PM UTC-6, Xeno wrote:
> On 18/12/20 2:03 pm, root wrote:
> > AK > wrote:
> >> I bought some Yokohama tires at Discount *ires.
> >>
> >> They have a 60K warranty.
> >>
> >> But after 15K miles, the tire tread indicator is already showing.
> >>
> >> Are there tires that actually last to their rated warranties?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Andy
> >
> > Are the worn tires on the front? If so, your toe-in or
> > alignment might be the cause of tire wear.
> >
> Most *decent tyre places* will do a wheel alignment check at the same
> time new tyres are fitted, especially if the existing tyres show
> evidence of alignment issues. Every time I've had new tyres fitted, a
> wheel balance and alignment was a requirement for any warranty
> expectation. Need to start the tyre life from a known point. FWIW, any
> alignment should begin with a steering and suspension *condition check*.
> --
>
> Xeno
>
>
> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
The tires are on the front and the back tires are also showing the treadwear indicator.

The tires have been routinely rotated and balanced.

No one has said that any brand has been good?

Does that mean all tire manufactures lie about mileage?

Andy

AK wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:57:10 PM UTC-6, Xeno wrote:
>> On 18/12/20 2:03 pm, root wrote:
>>> AK > wrote:
>>>> I bought some Yokohama tires at Discount *ires.
>>>>
>>>> They have a 60K warranty.
>>>>
>>>> But after 15K miles, the tire tread indicator is already showing.
>>>>
>>>> Are there tires that actually last to their rated warranties?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Are the worn tires on the front? If so, your toe-in or
>>> alignment might be the cause of tire wear.
>>>
>> Most *decent tyre places* will do a wheel alignment check at the same
>> time new tyres are fitted, especially if the existing tyres show
>> evidence of alignment issues. Every time I've had new tyres fitted, a
>> wheel balance and alignment was a requirement for any warranty
>> expectation. Need to start the tyre life from a known point. FWIW, any
>> alignment should begin with a steering and suspension *condition check*.
>> --
>>
>> Xeno
>>
>>
>> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
>> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
> The tires are on the front and the back tires are also showing the treadwear indicator.
>
> The tires have been routinely rotated and balanced.
>
> No one has said that any brand has been good?
>
> Does that mean all tire manufactures lie about mileage?
>
> Andy

IMO, mileage estimates seem to be for straight line, 50 mph, constant
temp and load. I got Aspen Touring from NTB for my 06 Kia.
Aspen reviews are really bad. Nearly all say that 15k-30k miles on a
55k mile warranty tire is end of life for them.
However, mine have about 15k miles now and hardly any visible wear. A
little rounding on the fronts. 440 tread, A temp, A trac. I drive
Houston freeways from the west side to the east side and back, and 1
mile to Walmart, so my driving conditions are probably similar to yours.

On 19/12/20 3:27 am, AK wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:57:10 PM UTC-6, Xeno wrote:
>> On 18/12/20 2:03 pm, root wrote:
>>> AK > wrote:
>>>> I bought some Yokohama tires at Discount *ires.
>>>>
>>>> They have a 60K warranty.
>>>>
>>>> But after 15K miles, the tire tread indicator is already showing.
>>>>
>>>> Are there tires that actually last to their rated warranties?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> Are the worn tires on the front? If so, your toe-in or
>>> alignment might be the cause of tire wear.
>>>
>> Most *decent tyre places* will do a wheel alignment check at the same
>> time new tyres are fitted, especially if the existing tyres show
>> evidence of alignment issues. Every time I've had new tyres fitted, a
>> wheel balance and alignment was a requirement for any warranty
>> expectation. Need to start the tyre life from a known point. FWIW, any
>> alignment should begin with a steering and suspension *condition check*.
>> --
>>
>> Xeno
>>
>>
>> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
>> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
> The tires are on the front and the back tires are also showing the treadwear indicator.
>
> The tires have been routinely rotated and balanced.

What? At 15K miles? One rotate at most at that mileage, if that.
>
> No one has said that any brand has been good?

Yokohama are reasonable. I use OEM, I avoid cheapies, ie. Chinese
rubbish. A lot of the cheapies actually last *longer* but that's because
the rubber isn't as flexible and the grip, as a direct consequence, is
terrible.
>
> Does that mean all tire manufactures lie about mileage?

Exaggerate, maybe, lie, not usually. As noted elsewhere, those mileage
tests aren't done under average highway conditions.
>
> Andy
>
As I stated previously, ease up on the burnouts.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 19/12/20 9:20 am, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
> AK wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:57:10 PM UTC-6, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 18/12/20 2:03 pm, root wrote:
>>>> AK > wrote:
>>>>> I bought some Yokohama tires at Discount *ires.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have a 60K warranty.
>>>>>
>>>>> But after 15K miles, the tire tread indicator is already showing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there tires that actually last to their rated warranties?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> Are the worn tires on the front? If so, your toe-in or
>>>> alignment might be the cause of tire wear.
>>>>
>>> Most *decent tyre places* will do a wheel alignment check at the same
>>> time new tyres are fitted, especially if the existing tyres show
>>> evidence of alignment issues. Every time I've had new tyres fitted, a
>>> wheel balance and alignment was a requirement for any warranty
>>> expectation. Need to start the tyre life from a known point. FWIW, any
>>> alignment should begin with a steering and suspension *condition check*.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Xeno
>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
>>> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
>> The tires are on the front and the back tires are also showing the
>> treadwear indicator.
>>
>> The tires have been routinely rotated and balanced.
>>
>> No one has said that any brand has been good?
>>
>> Does that mean all tire manufactures lie about mileage?
>>
>> Andy
>
> IMO, mileage estimates seem to be for straight line, 50 mph, constant
> temp and load.Â* I got Aspen Touring from NTB for my 06 Kia.
> Aspen reviews are really bad.Â* Nearly all say that 15k-30k miles on a
> 55k mile warranty tire is end of life for them.
> However, mine have about 15k miles now and hardly any visible wear.Â* A
> little rounding on the fronts.Â* 440 tread, A temp, A trac.Â* I drive
> Houston freeways from the west side to the east side and back, and 1
> mile to Walmart, so my driving conditions are probably similar to yours.

In the past, most of our driving was high density city but included
freeways. We now live in a rural city and we suffer more from camber
scrub as a direct consequence of the many tight intersections in this
place. Not much can be done about the camber scrub short of regular tyre
rotation.

I'm not easy on my tyres but I still get quite good mileage. How someone
could wear out a set of Yokohamas at 15K is beyond my comprehension
short of, as I've stated, deliberate abuse.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 4:21:01 PM UTC-6, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
> AK wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:57:10 PM UTC-6, Xeno wrote:
> >> On 18/12/20 2:03 pm, root wrote:
> >>> AK > wrote:
> >>>> I bought some Yokohama tires at Discount *ires.
> >>>>
> >>>> They have a 60K warranty.
> >>>>
> >>>> But after 15K miles, the tire tread indicator is already showing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are there tires that actually last to their rated warranties?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Andy
> >>>
> >>> Are the worn tires on the front? If so, your toe-in or
> >>> alignment might be the cause of tire wear.
> >>>
> >> Most *decent tyre places* will do a wheel alignment check at the same
> >> time new tyres are fitted, especially if the existing tyres show
> >> evidence of alignment issues. Every time I've had new tyres fitted, a
> >> wheel balance and alignment was a requirement for any warranty
> >> expectation. Need to start the tyre life from a known point. FWIW, any
> >> alignment should begin with a steering and suspension *condition check*.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Xeno
> >>
> >>
> >> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
> >> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
> > The tires are on the front and the back tires are also showing the treadwear indicator.
> >
> > The tires have been routinely rotated and balanced.
> >
> > No one has said that any brand has been good?
> >
> > Does that mean all tire manufactures lie about mileage?
> >
> > Andy
> IMO, mileage estimates seem to be for straight line, 50 mph, constant
> temp and load. I got Aspen Touring from NTB for my 06 Kia.
> Aspen reviews are really bad. Nearly all say that 15k-30k miles on a
> 55k mile warranty tire is end of life for them.
> However, mine have about 15k miles now and hardly any visible wear. A
> little rounding on the fronts. 440 tread, A temp, A trac. I drive
> Houston freeways from the west side to the east side and back, and 1
> mile to Walmart, so my driving conditions are probably similar to yours.
I just remembered something.

They are doing a 5 yr road work project and there are a lot of places where I slow down to go over raised parts of the road.

It's may be causing faster wear.

Andy

AK > wrote:
>
>They are doing a 5 yr road work project and there are a lot of places where I slow down to go over raised parts of the road.
>
>It's may be causing faster wear.

The wear pattern will tell you exactly what is going on.
--scott

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