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>I would agree Tony that the trainers are a blast. The F1 cars are a joke imho, I spent all of 2 minutes with them and
>shut them down. F1's on a small track are just that fast in real life. Pesonally, the F1 is my favorite car in rFactor. Here's a video of a real F1 doing a fast lap at Spa, a 4 mile track in about 1:45: http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/spaf1.wmv and F1C99-02 RH2004 mod's version of it (unlike the real thing I'm using manual shift in this 7 speed Ferrari): http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/f1cspa.wmv rFactors formula car at Toban (dual view video): http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/rfrf1tgp.wmv Now this is arcade fast: http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/nfsu2sx.wmv |
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"Jeff Reid" > wrote in message news:XMsSe.158644$E95.142265@fed1read01... > >I would agree Tony that the trainers are a blast. The F1 cars are a joke > >imho, I spent all of 2 minutes with them and shut them down. > > F1's on a small track are just that fast in real life. Pesonally, the > F1 is my favorite car in rFactor. > > Here's a video of a real F1 doing a fast lap at Spa, a 4 mile > track in about 1:45: > > http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/spaf1.wmv > > and F1C99-02 RH2004 mod's version of it (unlike the real thing > I'm using manual shift in this 7 speed Ferrari): > > http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/f1cspa.wmv > > rFactors formula car at Toban (dual view video): > > http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/rfrf1tgp.wmv > > Now this is arcade fast: > http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/nfsu2sx.wmv > People act like they've never seen an onboard lap at Monaco. The cars hit 300kph there, and it's the slowest course on the schedule. -- David G Fisher |
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"David G Fisher" > wrote in message news > > "Jeff Reid" > wrote in message > news:XMsSe.158644$E95.142265@fed1read01... >> >I would agree Tony that the trainers are a blast. The F1 cars are a >> >joke imho, I spent all of 2 minutes with them and shut them down. >> >> F1's on a small track are just that fast in real life. Pesonally, the >> F1 is my favorite car in rFactor. >> >> Here's a video of a real F1 doing a fast lap at Spa, a 4 mile >> track in about 1:45: >> >> http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/spaf1.wmv >> >> and F1C99-02 RH2004 mod's version of it (unlike the real thing >> I'm using manual shift in this 7 speed Ferrari): >> >> http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/f1cspa.wmv >> >> rFactors formula car at Toban (dual view video): >> >> http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/rfrf1tgp.wmv >> >> Now this is arcade fast: >> http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/nfsu2sx.wmv >> > > People act like they've never seen an onboard lap at Monaco. The cars hit > 300kph there, and it's the slowest course on the schedule. > > > -- > David G Fisher Great lap at Toban btw. :-) -- David G Fisher |
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"David G Fisher" > wrote in message news > > People act like they've never seen an onboard lap at Monaco. The cars hit > 300kph there, and it's the slowest course on the schedule. > Yeah, the F1s seem ok to me. I don't know what people expect! Maybe they have all the aids on or something. Mind you, I have not done many laps in them yet - really enjoying those trainers! |
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>> People act like they've never seen an onboard lap at Monaco. The cars hit 300kph there, and it's the slowest course
>> on the schedule. > Yeah, the F1s seem ok to me. I don't know what people expect! Maybe they have all the aids on or something. Hey I need those aids (at least traction control) to make my videos look cool, else I'd never be using 1st gear in the F1. I'm finally got into the 1:07's with aids on, haven't tried with all aids off again since my last session, where I just got to mid 1:09's. For me, it's about a 1.5 to 2 second difference per lap with an without aids. Part of the issue is a different setup is needed for no aids (taller gearing, more forward brake balance can help when not running any aids [except auto clutch]). |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:47:23 GMT, Tony Rickard
> wrote: <Snip nice review> In short my thoughts about rFactor is: Great graphics/sounds/'physics' Nice cars/tracks, and the possibility of mods is great. Weak controller support/replay facilities/netcode/ Bad AI Especially the AI/netcode worries me, since driving on your own gets boring very fast. So far the online races I've been in are like 1 hour practice/1 hour qualify/5 laps race....why on Earth do you want to practice/qualify 2 hours for a 7 minutes race? I'm sure this is adjustable, but the defaults choosen is weird. Furthermore I see mostly F1 cars online, with people 'driving' them like accelarate/corner/crash/etc. So far I haven't seen a single proper online race. (Alan, close your eyes) Those 'To Curve Grande Sprints' on GPL Monza were high class races compared to this... Cheers! Remco |
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Remco Moedt wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:47:23 GMT, Tony Rickard > > wrote: > > <Snip nice review> > > In short my thoughts about rFactor is: Great graphics/sounds/'physics' > > Nice cars/tracks, and the possibility of mods is great. > > Weak controller support/replay facilities/netcode/ I just don't understand why people don't just use the Papy method for this! > > Bad AI This has been fixed. > > > Especially the AI/netcode worries me, since driving on your own gets > boring very fast. So far the online races I've been in are like 1 > hour practice/1 hour qualify/5 laps race....why on Earth do you want > to practice/qualify 2 hours for a 7 minutes race? I'm sure this is > adjustable, but the defaults choosen is weird. It can be changed. > > Furthermore I see mostly F1 cars online, with people 'driving' them > like accelarate/corner/crash/etc. So far I haven't seen a single > proper online race. (Alan, close your eyes) Those 'To Curve Grande > Sprints' on GPL Monza were high class races compared to this... I raced on-line this morning in the Academy trainer against another 19 drivers drving ATs, and it was fantastic! Really good driving by everyone, from what I saw. No warp either. Don't know why people jump straight into the F1s. Accelerate/corner/crash just about sums them up! |
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> Hey I need those aids (at least traction control) to make my videos look
> cool, else I'd never be using 1st gear in the F1. I'm finally got into the > 1:07's with aids on ... I updated the video, so it's a bit cleaner and faster (sub 1:07.5), link is still the same: http://jeffareid.net/cgi-bin/rfrf1tgp.wmv |
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> > Furthermore I see mostly F1 cars online,
Maybe the first night, I saw more of a mix on the second night. > I raced on-line this morning in the Academy trainer against another 19 drivers drving ATs, How many survived? > Don't know why people jump straight into the F1s. Accelerate/corner/crash just about sums them up! I don't think the car matters, my one and only win online was a 20 lap race at Toban GP with the Howston. At the start, I pulled over and let all the cars go by, to avoid the early wrecks. My strategy was to conserve the tires and not pit at all, since pit time is pretty long. The race started with 15 cars and ended up with just 3. One cool effect with an online replay is that if you just jump to the end and back up a lap, you can see all the cars that left as ghost cars (the surviving cars go right though these cars). |
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