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Nitrogen in tires
Hi folks, quick question for the folks in the know. Yesterday I took the
wife's 05 Mustang in for the 30,000 mile check up. The service writer asked me if I wanted nitrogen in the tires, the cost would be $32.50. With all due respect to myself, I ain't no rocket scientist. I know about and why they use nitrogen in aircraft tires...but, why would anyone pay extra to have nitrogen in auto tires. Please, someone help me understand this. Thanks, Steve |
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Esteban wrote:
> Hi folks, quick question for the folks in the know. Yesterday I took the > wife's 05 Mustang in for the 30,000 mile check up. The service writer asked > me if I wanted nitrogen in the tires, the cost would be $32.50. With all > due respect to myself, I ain't no rocket scientist. I know about and why > they use nitrogen in aircraft tires...but, why would anyone pay extra to > have nitrogen in auto tires. > Please, someone help me understand this. > Thanks, > Steve > > To slow down the aging of the rubber? |
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"Jan Andersson" > wrote in message
... > Esteban wrote: >> Hi folks, quick question for the folks in the know. Yesterday I took the >> wife's 05 Mustang in for the 30,000 mile check up. The service writer >> asked me if I wanted nitrogen in the tires, the cost would be $32.50. >> With all due respect to myself, I ain't no rocket scientist. I know >> about and why they use nitrogen in aircraft tires...but, why would anyone >> pay extra to have nitrogen in auto tires. >> Please, someone help me understand this. >> Thanks, >> Steve > > To slow down the aging of the rubber? I put a little helium in mine. Decreased weight = better performance. I also smear grease around the outside of the tires. Less traction, but less wear, too. Still, I WISH my tires would last long enough that I had to worry about the rubber aging... dwight |
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:20:17 -0500, "dwight" >
wrote: >"Jan Andersson" > wrote in message ... >> Esteban wrote: >>> Hi folks, quick question for the folks in the know. Yesterday I took the >>> wife's 05 Mustang in for the 30,000 mile check up. The service writer >>> asked me if I wanted nitrogen in the tires, the cost would be $32.50. >>> With all due respect to myself, I ain't no rocket scientist. I know >>> about and why they use nitrogen in aircraft tires...but, why would anyone >>> pay extra to have nitrogen in auto tires. >>> Please, someone help me understand this. >>> Thanks, >>> Steve >> >> To slow down the aging of the rubber? > >I put a little helium in mine. Decreased weight = better performance. > >I also smear grease around the outside of the tires. Less traction, but less >wear, too. > >Still, I WISH my tires would last long enough that I had to worry about the >rubber aging... > >dwight > Hey Dwight, Just put tfrog on jack stands, lube those tires and they will last almost a lifetime LOL |
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Jan Andersson wrote:
> Esteban wrote: >> Hi folks, quick question for the folks in the know. Yesterday I took >> the wife's 05 Mustang in for the 30,000 mile check up. The service >> writer asked me if I wanted nitrogen in the tires, the cost would be >> $32.50. With all due respect to myself, I ain't no rocket scientist. >> I know about and why they use nitrogen in aircraft tires...but, why >> would anyone pay extra to have nitrogen in auto tires. >> Please, someone help me understand this. >> Thanks, >> Steve >> > > > To slow down the aging of the rubber? Larger molecules, don't leak out. Way too extremely expensive IMHO. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Contacting shutterfly help is an exercise in stupidity as they can't seem to grasp the fact it's NOT MY BLOODY ACCOUNT and some ******, one crack pipe short of a holiday, has signed me up in a system that has no closed loop confirmation yet has credit card information for billing." - Rev. Beergoggles |
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WindsorFox wrote: > Jan Andersson wrote: >> Esteban wrote: >>> Hi folks, quick question for the folks in the know. Yesterday I >>> took the wife's 05 Mustang in for the 30,000 mile check up. The >>> service writer asked me if I wanted nitrogen in the tires, the >>> cost would be $32.50. With all due respect to myself, I ain't no >>> rocket scientist. I know about and why they use nitrogen in >>> aircraft tires...but, why would anyone pay extra to have nitrogen >>> in auto tires. Please, someone help me understand this. >>> Thanks, >>> Steve >>> >> >> >> To slow down the aging of the rubber? > > Larger molecules, don't leak out. Way too extremely expensive > IMHO. Buy your tires at Costco and it's free, including the green valve caps! -- Frank ess |
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On Mar 1, 2:04*pm, WindsorFox > wrote:
> Jan Andersson wrote: > >> Esteban wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, quick question for the folks in the know. *Yesterday I took >>> the wife's 05 Mustang in for the 30,000 mile check up. *The service >>> writer asked me if I wanted nitrogen in the tires, the cost would be >>> $32.50. *With all due respect to myself, I ain't no rocket scientist. * >>> I know about and why they use nitrogen in aircraft tires...but, why >>> would anyone pay extra to have nitrogen in auto tires. >>> Please, someone help me understand this. >>> Thanks, >>> Steve > >> To slow down the aging of the rubber? > > * * Larger molecules, don't leak out. Way too extremely expensive IMHO.. October 04, 2007 Tires - Nitrogen air loss study Filling tires with nitrogen rather than air is becoming a common practice in the replacement tire market. This service offers tire dealers another avenue for making money while also promoting safety. The claimed safety benefits often include the potential for reducing air loss compared to an air-filled tire. Maintaining proper inflation can help prevent tire overheating; promote optimum tread life; and reduce rubber aging and wheel corrosion. The use of nitrogen in large truck fleets and the commercial tire industry are well documented and support these claims. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has seen reduced aging of tires filled with nitrogen. Though the data does support that passenger car tires could benefit by all the claims made for nitrogen, tire manufacturers say that they already design tires to perform well with air inflation. And while nitrogen will do no harm, manufacturers say that they don't see the need to use nitrogen, which generally adds $5 or more per tire charge. Consumer Reports wanted to find out if nitrogen is worth the price, so we purchased a Nitrogen Inflation System and checked out how well the inflation held up over a one year period. We evaluated pairs of 31 tire models of H- and V-speed rated, all-season tires used in our tread wear test from 2006. We filled one tire per model with air and the other with nitrogen. The test was quite simple: fill and set the inflation pressure at room temperature to 30 psi (pounds per square inch); set the tire outdoors for one year; and then recheck the inflation pressure at room temperature after a one year period. The tires were filled and deflated three times with nitrogen to purge the air out of the tire cavity. We also used an oxygen analyzer to be sure we had 95-percent nitrogen purity in the tire--the claimed purity limit of our nitrogen system, which generates nitrogen gas from ambient air. The test started on September 20, 2006 and the final measurements were taken on September 20, 2007. The results show nitrogen does reduce pressure loss over time, but the reduction is only a 1.3 psi difference from air-filled tires. The average loss of air-filled tires was just 3.5 psi from the initial 30 pressure setting. Nitrogen-filled tires lost an average of 2.2 psi from the initial 30 psi setting. More important, all tires lost air pressure regardless of the inflation medium, so consumers should check their tires' air pressure routinely. No evaluation was done to assess the aging claim. Bottom line: Overall, consumers can use nitrogen and might enjoy the slight improvement in air retention provided, but it's not a substitute for regular inflation checks. http://blogs.consumerreports.org/car...nitrogen-.html Moreover, since nitrogen is supposedly less prone to volume change with heat change many new car dealers' service departments routinely substitute nitrogen for compressed air when their customers Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)-equipped vehicles come in during the colder winter months complaining about their TPMS warnings. |
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On Mar 1, 8:16 am, "Esteban" > wrote:
> I know about and why they use nitrogen in aircraft tires...but, why would anyone pay extra to > have nitrogen in auto tires. So the owner of the shop can pay for another round of golf. Of course they don't tell you that the air you breath is 80% nitrogen, do they? My mom took her 500 in for a $12.95 oil change at the dealer. When she left, her bill was a lot more than that. Yea, she agreed to it, but it's really sad they they prey on the elderly and uninformed. Do a google search for "nitrogen in tires" and decide for yourself if it is worth it or not. |
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"Kruse" > wrote in message ... > On Mar 1, 8:16 am, "Esteban" > wrote: >> I know about and why they use nitrogen in aircraft tires...but, why >> would anyone pay extra to >> have nitrogen in auto tires. > > > So the owner of the shop can pay for another round of golf. > > Of course they don't tell you that the air you breath is 80% nitrogen, > do they? > My mom took her 500 in for a $12.95 oil change at the dealer. When she > left, her bill was a lot more than that. > Yea, she agreed to it, but it's really sad they they prey on the > elderly and uninformed. > > Do a google search for "nitrogen in tires" and decide for yourself if > it is worth it or not. Thanks for all the interesting comments on the nitrogen issue, I appreciate each and every one of 'em. With all your advice, I have decided to stay with 78% nitrogen....as it came from the factory. <G> This is a great group, I am fortunate to have found this group. Steve |
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Nitrogen in tires
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:16:59 GMT, "Esteban" >
wrote: >Hi folks, quick question for the folks in the know. Yesterday I took the >wife's 05 Mustang in for the 30,000 mile check up. The service writer asked >me if I wanted nitrogen in the tires, the cost would be $32.50. With all >due respect to myself, I ain't no rocket scientist. I know about and why >they use nitrogen in aircraft tires...but, why would anyone pay extra to >have nitrogen in auto tires. >Please, someone help me understand this. >Thanks, >Steve > What happens when you lose nitrogen and have to fill up your tire? And, if you add air at a filling station, so that now you have one tire that's a mixture while the rest are pure nitrogen, does your car handle differently? Does it void the warrantee on the tire? Will that tire wear differently than the others? Can you sue if you have an accident as a result? Will Al Gore come after your? Will space aliens target your vehicle?:0) |
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