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"Sir Lex" > wrote in message ... > Scott en Aztlán wrote: > IMHO, anyone who "needs" a GPS Nav system on the road does not have the > brains to operate a vehicle. > > I never have had a nav system in my car, and never will, it's just > something else that can break and/or get stolen. I don't want a > computer chatting to me in my car. I have a Garmin Street pilot nav system and love it. Why buy a map when I can plug in the street address and the GPS will send me where I want to go? Mine Nav system is small and easily removable, so I only need one for multiple vehicles and theft is not a problem. The autorouting is not perfect and I often follow different routes just because I have looked at the map, but when you get near the end, and you are on unfamiliar streets, having the GPS direct you is really nice. With the GPS if I miss a turn because there was some sort of unforeseen problem (road construction, in the wrong lane at the wrong time, est.), my GPS just refigures the route and tells me where to go. I can always choose to ignore it (and I often do). Admittedly I did not need a Nav system for the first 30+ years of driving to find my destination, but I still find it to be useful. It is also nice to be able to get a running estimate of my arrival time, and have the ability to locate upcoming fuel / rest stops. And although mine can talk, that is optional. Ed |
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote in message oups.com... It's all just another scam to fleece the public. If we left out all the useless frills, cars would cost $5K and nothing would ever go wrong and General Murders doesn't want that. The problem with low cost cars in the US is the availability of very good quality used cars at very low prices. Which had you rather spend $7000 on, a new plastic coated tin box with no AC, no power anything, or a 4 year old Camry with all the goodies? Or for that matter a 4 year old Crown Victoria? Either of these used car is probably good for another 7 years and over 100,000 miles. So why suffer in some second rate boom box on wheels, when a good used car with all the goodies will cost less (and be safer too)? Ed |
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C. E. White wrote: > "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" > wrote in message > oups.com... > >> It's all just another scam to fleece the public. If we left out all the >> useless frills, cars would cost $5K and nothing would ever go wrong and >> General Murders doesn't want that. >> > The problem with low cost cars in the US is the availability of very good > quality used cars at very low prices. Which had you rather spend $7000 on, a > new plastic coated tin box with no AC, no power anything, or a 4 year old > Camry with all the goodies? Or for that matter a 4 year old Crown Victoria? > Either of these used car is probably good for another 7 years and over > 100,000 miles. So why suffer in some second rate boom box on wheels, when a > good used car with all the goodies will cost less (and be safer too)? > > Ed I agree with both of you, kinda. Personally I would like a high quality but "no frills" car. It doesn't seem to exist. Even the lower end of the market seems to be saturated with vehicles that push gimmicky "features" at the expense of engineering substance. I would rather have, say, a bare-bones car with a bulletproof drivetrain and decent seats and little else than a gimmicky car with cheapass everything that will be worn out in 150K miles. Heck, I'd pay a PREMIUM for such a car, just because it would likely be much more reliable than average. nate |
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> I agree with both of you, kinda. Personally I would like a high
> quality but "no frills" car. It doesn't seem to exist. Even the lower > end of the market seems to be saturated with vehicles that push > gimmicky "features" at the expense of engineering substance. I would > rather have, say, a bare-bones car with a bulletproof drivetrain and > decent seats and little else than a gimmicky car with cheapass > everything that will be worn out in 150K miles. > > Heck, I'd pay a PREMIUM for such a car, just because it would likely be > much more reliable than average. > > nate > I'm with you there, all the way. A car is, after all, just transportation. It's nice to have goodies like A/C, power windows, decent stereo, etc. But even WITH all those goodies, it's still tough to enjoy your time behind the wheel. Just give me a car that goes from point A to point B reliably and efficiently, EVERY TIME. Like you said, bulletproof drivetrain, "no frills". Sign me up. Now where do I buy one? Less than $50K, preferably, though I suspect this beast isn't available at any price. -Dave |
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Alex Rodriguez wrote: > In article .com>, > says... > > >It's all just another scam to fleece the public. If we left out all the > >useless frills, cars would cost $5K and nothing would ever go wrong and > >General Murders doesn't want that. > > You should run out and buy yourself a Chinese made car. > ------------- > Alex Or a Yugo...oh, sorry, he did say reliably. Harry K |
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:23:00 +1000, Sir Lex > wrote:
>IMHO, anyone who "needs" a GPS Nav system on the road does not have the >brains to operate a vehicle. > >I never have had a nav system in my car, and never will, it's just >something else that can break and/or get stolen. I don't want a >computer chatting to me in my car. > >Why spend a few grand on an in car navigation system, when $10 at a >local news agent will get you a perfectly good, up to date map? Meanwhile, luddites like you will be sitting there mired in the accident-induced traffic jam while I duck off at the nearest exit and punch the "re-route" button. |
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Sir Lex wrote:
> IMHO, anyone who "needs" a GPS Nav system on the road does not have the > brains to operate a vehicle. One could say the same about a map. The problem isn't the tech, it's not having the brains to use it while parked rather than while moving. |
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Sir Lex wrote:
> IMHO, anyone who "needs" a GPS Nav system on the road does not have the > brains to operate a vehicle. > > I never have had a nav system in my car, and never will, it's just > something else that can break and/or get stolen. I don't want a > computer chatting to me in my car. > > Why spend a few grand on an in car navigation system, when $10 at a > local news agent will get you a perfectly good, up to date map? That's stupid. Last December I flew to Vancouver, BC and rented a Volvo with navigation system from Hertz. Without that, in an unfamiliar big city, I would have had a very hard time getting around. |
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