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best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE
best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE
background: I am getting my vintage AM/FM Delco reconditioned with the intent of getting that "cruis'n feeling" I will also add non-vintage sound deadening, and other electrical/static improvements noted here and elsewhere. Thanks for the help. My query in a different area. In the sixties, I was always changing ignition cables attempting to minimize "ignition buzz" on my radio. (not really a problem since the mid-70s). Back then, I found one type that worked ok, but I cannot find it any more. (Most of this help in the 60's came from that Hams, thus I am including them in this question) Now for the "new" question. What "TYPE" of ignition wiring for maximum should I get for my Avanti (with modern electronic distributor) R2? |
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On 29 Oct 2006 14:25:38 -0800, "63Avanti" > wrote:
>best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE > >background: >I am getting my vintage AM/FM Delco reconditioned with the intent of >getting that "cruis'n feeling" I will also add non-vintage sound >deadening, and other electrical/static improvements noted here and >elsewhere. Thanks for the help. > >My query in a different area. In the sixties, I was always changing >ignition cables attempting to minimize "ignition buzz" on my radio. >(not really a problem since the mid-70s). Back then, I found one type >that worked ok, but I cannot find it any more. (Most of this help in >the 60's came from that Hams, thus I am including them in this >question) > >Now for the "new" question. >What "TYPE" of ignition wiring for maximum should I get for my Avanti >(with modern electronic distributor) R2? Most all new cars use anti-rf plugs and cables.. Just get a set of quality resistor plugs and resistor wires. |
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63Avanti wrote: > I am getting my vintage AM/FM Delco reconditioned with the intent of > getting that "cruis'n feeling" I will also add non-vintage sound > deadening, and other electrical/static improvements noted here and > elsewhere. Thanks for the help. > In the sixties, I was always changing ignition cables attempting to > minimize "ignition buzz" on my radio. (not really a problem since > the mid-70s). Back then, I found one type that worked ok, but I > cannot find it any more. ( > What "TYPE" of ignition wiring for maximum should I get for my Avanti > (with modern electronic distributor) R2? There are only 2 types of RF supression wi resistive and inductive. The latter is often referred to as "magnetic" and is widely available, but it doesn't seem to work any better than the resistive type. A significant amount of igniton noise comes from the connection between the plug and the plug wire, and grounded metal shields over the boots can help here. There are wire kits with these boots, mostly for German cars, or they can be made with metal tubing slipped snugly over the metal bases of the plugs. |
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best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE
63Avanti wrote:
> best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE > > background: > I am getting my vintage AM/FM Delco reconditioned with the intent of > getting that "cruis'n feeling" I will also add non-vintage sound > deadening, and other electrical/static improvements noted here and > elsewhere. Thanks for the help. > > My query in a different area. In the sixties, I was always changing > ignition cables attempting to minimize "ignition buzz" on my radio. > (not really a problem since the mid-70s). Back then, I found one type > that worked ok, but I cannot find it any more. (Most of this help in > the 60's came from that Hams, thus I am including them in this > question) > > Now for the "new" question. > What "TYPE" of ignition wiring for maximum should I get for my Avanti > (with modern electronic distributor) R2? Are you sure, first of all, that it's ignition noise you're experiencing, and not alternator whine, or EMI from another source? Or is this just all precautionary? First thing I'd recommend, IF there's noise, is confirming the source of it, before putting the time and effort into addressing one possible source. |
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best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE
Yep...as Matt says......... I've got a so, so AM-FM radio with "inexpensive" plug wires. The ignition is quite...but the alternator whines a bit. I know for a fact it's the alternator because it's one of the one wire types that comes in at about 1600 rpm when cold. So a first start at low rpm...no chargeing....the radio is noise free. As soon as the alternator comes in....whiiinnne..... Mike |
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best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE
Matt Ion wrote: > 63Avanti wrote: > > best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE > > > > background: > > I am getting my vintage AM/FM Delco reconditioned with the intent of > > getting that "cruis'n feeling" I will also add non-vintage sound > > deadening, and other electrical/static improvements noted here and > > elsewhere. Thanks for the help. > > > > My query in a different area. In the sixties, I was always changing > > ignition cables attempting to minimize "ignition buzz" on my radio. > > (not really a problem since the mid-70s). Back then, I found one type > > that worked ok, but I cannot find it any more. (Most of this help in > > the 60's came from that Hams, thus I am including them in this > > question) > > > > Now for the "new" question. > > What "TYPE" of ignition wiring for maximum should I get for my Avanti > > (with modern electronic distributor) R2? > > Are you sure, first of all, that it's ignition noise you're experiencing, and > not alternator whine, or EMI from another source? Or is this just all > precautionary? > > First thing I'd recommend, IF there's noise, is confirming the source of it, > before putting the time and effort into addressing one possible source. Just to clarify, he's talking about an Avanti here; having an all-fiberglass body, suppressing ANY source of noise is of utmost importance. nate |
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N8N wrote:
> Matt Ion wrote: > >>63Avanti wrote: >> >>>best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE >>> >>>background: >>>I am getting my vintage AM/FM Delco reconditioned with the intent of >>>getting that "cruis'n feeling" I will also add non-vintage sound >>>deadening, and other electrical/static improvements noted here and >>>elsewhere. Thanks for the help. >>> >>>My query in a different area. In the sixties, I was always changing >>>ignition cables attempting to minimize "ignition buzz" on my radio. >>>(not really a problem since the mid-70s). Back then, I found one type >>>that worked ok, but I cannot find it any more. (Most of this help in >>>the 60's came from that Hams, thus I am including them in this >>>question) >>> >>>Now for the "new" question. >>>What "TYPE" of ignition wiring for maximum should I get for my Avanti >>>(with modern electronic distributor) R2? >> >>Are you sure, first of all, that it's ignition noise you're experiencing, and >>not alternator whine, or EMI from another source? Or is this just all >>precautionary? >> >>First thing I'd recommend, IF there's noise, is confirming the source of it, >>before putting the time and effort into addressing one possible source. > > > Just to clarify, he's talking about an Avanti here; having an > all-fiberglass body, suppressing ANY source of noise is of utmost > importance. > > nate > And it could be noise from a DC motor (fans for air/radiator). It could come a variety of sources. I would narrow it down, and it shouldn't be too hard to do either.... Bob |
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63Avanti wrote:
> best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE > > background: > I am getting my vintage AM/FM Delco reconditioned with the intent of > getting that "cruis'n feeling" I will also add non-vintage sound > deadening, and other electrical/static improvements noted here and > elsewhere. Thanks for the help. > > My query in a different area. In the sixties, I was always changing > ignition cables attempting to minimize "ignition buzz" on my radio. > (not really a problem since the mid-70s). Back then, I found one type > that worked ok, but I cannot find it any more. (Most of this help in > the 60's came from that Hams, thus I am including them in this > question) > > Now for the "new" question. > What "TYPE" of ignition wiring for maximum should I get for my Avanti > (with modern electronic distributor) R2? > Generally, to cut down the static noise (RFI) on older cars, you would find condensers on the alternator, distributor, wiper motor, and on the radio itself. There was also ignition shielding and resistor wires and plugs. The values on the condensers are all different, so swapping them may cause problems rather than being a remedy. I've never seen any on a heater or A/C fan motor, but it's also a source of RFI. Even sliding your butt on the seat covers will create a charge. You remember those little flexible tails that used to be attached to the chassis and drag on the ground?. |
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best anti-RF ignition wiring TYPE
Why even worry? My '64 R-2 was so noisy that I couldn't hear the FM anyhow<G>. Paul Johnson |
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now this is interesting,
I remember fabricating for my neighbor's '62 Ford a metal can with braided shielded wires to cover his distributor and cables out to the plugs. I no longer knew when he drove out of his driveway by watching the patterns on my TV (UHF). Now for the question. Any one know if these boots, if self-fabricated, are essentially a CYLINDER, grounded by contact with the engine block? On Oct 29, 6:06 pm, wrote: .. A > significant amount of igniton noise comes from the connection between > the plug and the plug wire, and grounded metal shields over the boots > can help here. There are wire kits with these boots, mostly for German > cars, or they can be made with metal tubing slipped snugly over the > metal bases of the plugs. |
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