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Old January 21st 07, 11:26 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Gumby619
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Default 97 GT problem

Here is the problem. Blew top radiator hose the other day, replaced it
and all was well then the radiator started leaking. Put Barsleak in it and
it sealed ok. Today the Bars let loose (I hate that **** but my gf was told
by one of the "knowledgeable" people at Kragen that its the best. I put in
alumaseal today and all is well with that but now its overheating like mad.
No water in oil, no oil in water, no moisture or anything coming out of the
exhaust except whets supposed to. When the car overheated today the gauge
didn't say it was that hot but I got a lot of predetonation. cool the car
down and the gauge shows normal temp for car but drive it a couple blocks
and it goes up a little and the ping starts again. Any
help/hints/suggestions? I already ordered another radiator and will have it
Tuesday. Also the thermostat seems to be working, top hose is hot and not a
lot of pressure and I actually saw it compress when the thermostat opened up
(was low on water at that point). I think I have all pertinent info here.
Anything I missed ask away

Gumby619

'97 GT vert


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Old January 22nd 07, 12:26 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Brent P[_1_]
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Default 97 GT problem

In article >, Gumby619 wrote:
> Here is the problem. Blew top radiator hose the other day, replaced it
> and all was well then the radiator started leaking. Put Barsleak in it and
> it sealed ok. Today the Bars let loose (I hate that **** but my gf was told
> by one of the "knowledgeable" people at Kragen that its the best. I put in
> alumaseal today and all is well with that but now its overheating like mad.
> No water in oil, no oil in water, no moisture or anything coming out of the
> exhaust except whets supposed to. When the car overheated today the gauge
> didn't say it was that hot but I got a lot of predetonation. cool the car
> down and the gauge shows normal temp for car but drive it a couple blocks
> and it goes up a little and the ping starts again. Any
> help/hints/suggestions?


1) Some of that stop leak stuff is known to clog passages, heater cores,
etc.

2) Best to replace the radiator and try to flush the system clean of the
the stop leak products while doing it.

3) Is detonation the only reason you think it's overheating? If so, it's
not likely overheating. Your driver's side spark plug wells are probably
flooded with coolant shorting the plugs. Check them all on both sides
since the hose actually blew out. If you find them flooded the
detonation problem should go away when cleaned up.




  #3  
Old January 22nd 07, 01:50 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Gumby619
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Default 97 GT problem


"Brent P" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Gumby619 wrote:
>> Here is the problem. Blew top radiator hose the other day, replaced
>> it
>> and all was well then the radiator started leaking. Put Barsleak in it
>> and
>> it sealed ok. Today the Bars let loose (I hate that **** but my gf was
>> told
>> by one of the "knowledgeable" people at Kragen that its the best. I put
>> in
>> alumaseal today and all is well with that but now its overheating like
>> mad.
>> No water in oil, no oil in water, no moisture or anything coming out of
>> the
>> exhaust except whets supposed to. When the car overheated today the gauge
>> didn't say it was that hot but I got a lot of predetonation. cool the car
>> down and the gauge shows normal temp for car but drive it a couple blocks
>> and it goes up a little and the ping starts again. Any
>> help/hints/suggestions?

>
> 1) Some of that stop leak stuff is known to clog passages, heater cores,
> etc.
>
> 2) Best to replace the radiator and try to flush the system clean of the
> the stop leak products while doing it.
>
> 3) Is detonation the only reason you think it's overheating? If so, it's
> not likely overheating. Your driver's side spark plug wells are probably
> flooded with coolant shorting the plugs. Check them all on both sides
> since the hose actually blew out. If you find them flooded the
> detonation problem should go away when cleaned up.
>
>
>

I let it cool down for an hour and added water, it took 2 gallons. when I
got on the freeway it started to heat up then the thermostat opened and it
dropped to normal. I drove it about 10 miles and it was actually running
cooler than normal, I stopped for about 10 minutes and it started heating
up, I drove it thinking it would cool down at speed but alas, no luck. The
radiator is still leaking a little so I'm ordering a new one tomorrow
morning. The predetonation went away till it got hot again. I'm thinking I
may need a new sending unit for the temp gauge too. Its only what, a 10
dollar part? Will post Tuesday with results from new radiator (takes a day
for shipping)

Gumby619

'97 GT vert


  #4  
Old January 22nd 07, 02:22 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
G Unit
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Default 97 GT problem

Are the electric fans kicking on? Sounds like that could be the (or part of
the) problem.


"Gumby619" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Brent P" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >, Gumby619 wrote:
>>> Here is the problem. Blew top radiator hose the other day, replaced
>>> it
>>> and all was well then the radiator started leaking. Put Barsleak in it
>>> and
>>> it sealed ok. Today the Bars let loose (I hate that **** but my gf was
>>> told
>>> by one of the "knowledgeable" people at Kragen that its the best. I put
>>> in
>>> alumaseal today and all is well with that but now its overheating like
>>> mad.
>>> No water in oil, no oil in water, no moisture or anything coming out of
>>> the
>>> exhaust except whets supposed to. When the car overheated today the
>>> gauge
>>> didn't say it was that hot but I got a lot of predetonation. cool the
>>> car
>>> down and the gauge shows normal temp for car but drive it a couple
>>> blocks
>>> and it goes up a little and the ping starts again. Any
>>> help/hints/suggestions?

>>
>> 1) Some of that stop leak stuff is known to clog passages, heater cores,
>> etc.
>>
>> 2) Best to replace the radiator and try to flush the system clean of the
>> the stop leak products while doing it.
>>
>> 3) Is detonation the only reason you think it's overheating? If so, it's
>> not likely overheating. Your driver's side spark plug wells are probably
>> flooded with coolant shorting the plugs. Check them all on both sides
>> since the hose actually blew out. If you find them flooded the
>> detonation problem should go away when cleaned up.
>>
>>
>>

> I let it cool down for an hour and added water, it took 2 gallons. when I
> got on the freeway it started to heat up then the thermostat opened and it
> dropped to normal. I drove it about 10 miles and it was actually running
> cooler than normal, I stopped for about 10 minutes and it started heating
> up, I drove it thinking it would cool down at speed but alas, no luck. The
> radiator is still leaking a little so I'm ordering a new one tomorrow
> morning. The predetonation went away till it got hot again. I'm thinking I
> may need a new sending unit for the temp gauge too. Its only what, a 10
> dollar part? Will post Tuesday with results from new radiator (takes a day
> for shipping)
>
> Gumby619
>
> '97 GT vert
>
>



  #5  
Old January 22nd 07, 03:43 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Gumby619
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Default 97 GT problem

Fans working fine

"G Unit" <@> wrote in message
...
> Are the electric fans kicking on? Sounds like that could be the (or part
> of the) problem.
>
>
> "Gumby619" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Brent P" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >, Gumby619 wrote:
>>>> Here is the problem. Blew top radiator hose the other day, replaced
>>>> it
>>>> and all was well then the radiator started leaking. Put Barsleak in it
>>>> and
>>>> it sealed ok. Today the Bars let loose (I hate that **** but my gf was
>>>> told
>>>> by one of the "knowledgeable" people at Kragen that its the best. I put
>>>> in
>>>> alumaseal today and all is well with that but now its overheating like
>>>> mad.
>>>> No water in oil, no oil in water, no moisture or anything coming out of
>>>> the
>>>> exhaust except whets supposed to. When the car overheated today the
>>>> gauge
>>>> didn't say it was that hot but I got a lot of predetonation. cool the
>>>> car
>>>> down and the gauge shows normal temp for car but drive it a couple
>>>> blocks
>>>> and it goes up a little and the ping starts again. Any
>>>> help/hints/suggestions?
>>>
>>> 1) Some of that stop leak stuff is known to clog passages, heater cores,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> 2) Best to replace the radiator and try to flush the system clean of the
>>> the stop leak products while doing it.
>>>
>>> 3) Is detonation the only reason you think it's overheating? If so, it's
>>> not likely overheating. Your driver's side spark plug wells are probably
>>> flooded with coolant shorting the plugs. Check them all on both sides
>>> since the hose actually blew out. If you find them flooded the
>>> detonation problem should go away when cleaned up.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> I let it cool down for an hour and added water, it took 2 gallons. when I
>> got on the freeway it started to heat up then the thermostat opened and
>> it dropped to normal. I drove it about 10 miles and it was actually
>> running cooler than normal, I stopped for about 10 minutes and it started
>> heating up, I drove it thinking it would cool down at speed but alas, no
>> luck. The radiator is still leaking a little so I'm ordering a new one
>> tomorrow morning. The predetonation went away till it got hot again. I'm
>> thinking I may need a new sending unit for the temp gauge too. Its only
>> what, a 10 dollar part? Will post Tuesday with results from new radiator
>> (takes a day for shipping)
>>
>> Gumby619
>>
>> '97 GT vert
>>
>>

>
>



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Old January 22nd 07, 05:04 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Brent P[_1_]
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Default 97 GT problem

In article >, Gumby619 wrote:

> I let it cool down for an hour and added water, it took 2 gallons. when I
> got on the freeway it started to heat up then the thermostat opened and it
> dropped to normal. I drove it about 10 miles and it was actually running
> cooler than normal, I stopped for about 10 minutes and it started heating
> up, I drove it thinking it would cool down at speed but alas, no luck. The
> radiator is still leaking a little so I'm ordering a new one tomorrow
> morning.


Your radiator is probably not holding enough pressure and thusly the behavior
you are seeing.

> The predetonation went away till it got hot again.


Check the spark plug wells... it only takes a few minutes. The coolant gets
trapped in there by the spark plug boots. It may only make it to the contacts
when the engine warm. It doesn't hurt to pull the boots off and see, unless
they are in such bad shape/corroded that they rip apart, in which case you
need to replace them anyway

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Old February 5th 07, 07:09 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Scot Paxton
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Default 97 GT problem

Sounds like an air lock to me...
"Gumby619" > wrote in message
...
> Here is the problem. Blew top radiator hose the other day, replaced it
> and all was well then the radiator started leaking. Put Barsleak in it and
> it sealed ok. Today the Bars let loose (I hate that **** but my gf was
> told by one of the "knowledgeable" people at Kragen that its the best. I
> put in alumaseal today and all is well with that but now its overheating
> like mad. No water in oil, no oil in water, no moisture or anything coming
> out of the exhaust except whets supposed to. When the car overheated today
> the gauge didn't say it was that hot but I got a lot of predetonation.
> cool the car down and the gauge shows normal temp for car but drive it a
> couple blocks and it goes up a little and the ping starts again. Any
> help/hints/suggestions? I already ordered another radiator and will have
> it Tuesday. Also the thermostat seems to be working, top hose is hot and
> not a lot of pressure and I actually saw it compress when the thermostat
> opened up (was low on water at that point). I think I have all pertinent
> info here. Anything I missed ask away
>
> Gumby619
>
> '97 GT vert
>
>
> --
> For every action there is an equal and opposite Government program
>



 




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