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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
On Feb 19, 11:13*pm, Alan Baker > wrote:
> on 16x7 or 16x8 rims. > > The tires are 19 lbs., and I'm looking for rims that weigh less than 15 > lbs--preferably less than 14. > > Why the S.Drives? They seem very well regarded as all-around performance > tires, but are rated particularly well in wet traction... > > ...and I do live in Vancouver. > > What do you think? > I think Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec is the current king of the wet traction hill http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.... Z1+Star+Spec I loved these when I had them on my protege. Wet traction is almost indistinguishable from dry traction. > -- > Alan Baker > Vancouver, British Columbia > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |
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"Body Roll" > wrote in message ... > I think Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec is the current king of the wet traction hill http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.... Z1+Star+Spec I loved these when I had them on my protege. Wet traction is almost indistinguishable from dry traction. > -- > Alan Baker > Vancouver, British Columbia > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> Alan, I've heard allot about those tires and I'm really hoping to try them one of these days. I think the one thing that holds me back on them is the price to treadwear rating ratio, so-to-speak. I know they'll be incredibly grippy but I wonder if I'll go thru them in a heart beat. I've gotten to where I like to autocross and do track days with the same tires I use as daily drivers. And, I like them to last for awhile. I'm currently getting about 2 years and 20k out of the Yoko Prada Spec 2's and they are very grippy both wet and dry imho. Do you think these Dunlops would hold up that long? I think the Dunlops are rated 220 and the Yokos are rated 300. I know those are not necessarily scientifically comparable #'s but it seems to indicate significant difference in tread life. Oh, and it looks like they are significantly cheaper (at Tire Rack) also. I've driven these tires with Falken Azennis (front vs rear) and swear by their performance in comparison. Chris 99BBB |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
On 3/22/2011 9:13 PM, Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> > "Body Roll" > wrote in message > ... >> > > I think Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec is the current king of the wet > traction hill > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.... Z1+Star+Spec > > > I loved these when I had them on my protege. Wet traction is almost > indistinguishable from dry traction. > >> -- >> Alan Baker >> Vancouver, British Columbia >> <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > Alan, I've heard allot about those tires and I'm really hoping to try > them one of these days. I think the one thing that holds me back on them > is the price to treadwear rating ratio, so-to-speak. I know they'll be > incredibly grippy but I wonder if I'll go thru them in a heart beat. > I've gotten to where I like to autocross and do track days with the same > tires I use as daily drivers. And, I like them to last for awhile. I'm > currently getting about 2 years and 20k out of the Yoko Prada Spec 2's > and they are very grippy both wet and dry imho. Do you think these > Dunlops would hold up that long? I think the Dunlops are rated 220 and > the Yokos are rated 300. I know those are not necessarily scientifically > comparable #'s but it seems to indicate significant difference in tread > life. Oh, and it looks like they are significantly cheaper (at Tire > Rack) also. I've driven these tires with Falken Azennis (front vs rear) > and swear by their performance in comparison. > > Chris > 99BBB > > To be honest, you will not be very competitive with street tires that have high tread wear ratings. In any event, tires that are over about two years old get hard and loose a lot of cornering capability. I had this happen with a set of Bridgestone tires - - First year ok. Next year slid all over the place. |
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charlie > wrote:
> In any event, tires that are over about two years old get hard and > loose a lot of cornering capability. > > I had this happen with a set of Bridgestone tires - - First year > ok. Next year slid all over the place. Amen, I had to part with the tires that came on my Miata even though they had more than 50% tread remaining, they went into a spin with a very light rain on the street..... <!> I was taking a turn onto a freeway on ramp at about 35mph or so, I'd taken the same turn at 45mph in my Jeep Grand Cherokee if that'll give you some idea of how slippery those tires were! About a year earlier they'd handled wet pretty well. Periodically the Feds try to pass some rule requiring tire to be replaced after 2 or 3 years. I certainly oppose such a bill but I can see the reasoning behind it.... -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
charlie > wrote:
> In any event, tires that are over about two years old get hard and > loose a lot of cornering capability. > > I had this happen with a set of Bridgestone tires - - First year > ok. Next year slid all over the place. Amen, I had to part with the tires that came on my Miata even though they had more than 50% tread remaining, they went into a spin with a very light rain on the street..... <!> I was taking a turn onto a freeway on ramp at about 35mph or so, I'd taken the same turn at 45mph in my Jeep Grand Cherokee if that'll give you some idea of how slippery those tires were! About a year earlier they'd handled wet pretty well. Periodically the Feds try to pass some rule requiring tires to be replaced after 2 or 3 years. I certainly oppose such a bill but I can see the reasoning behind it.... -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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XS11E > wrote:
Sorry for the double post, my fault entirely, I'll go sit in the corner now... -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
LOL no need!
I agree on tire grip dropping after a few years but that's part of my point. This tread life seems to give me about the right longevity with quite good grip. Trust me, these tires grip far better than you probably expect from a 300 rating. cd 99BBB "XS11E" > wrote in message ... > XS11E > wrote: > > Sorry for the double post, my fault entirely, I'll go sit in the corner > now... > > > > > -- > XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups > The Usenet Improvement Project: > http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
I installed 195/45-16's on my 1999 miata on 16x7 enkei wheels and found them
to be more noisy and rough riding than I expected but their wet and dry traction is very good. They are absolutely useless in snow. BrianMinto Calgary |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
In article >,
"Brian Minto" > wrote: > I installed 195/45-16's on my 1999 miata on 16x7 enkei wheels and found them > to be more noisy and rough riding than I expected but their wet and dry > traction is very good. They are absolutely useless in snow. Well I ended up going with a different setup (in good part due to the advice I received here): 195/50-15 Toyo T1R tires on 949 Racing 15x7.5 6UL wheels in nickel finish. My order should be shipping today or tomorrow, I think, so I'll get them soon enough. :-) -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |
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215/40-R16 Yokohama S.Drive tires
Brian Minto wrote:
> I installed 195/45-16's on my 1999 miata on 16x7 enkei wheels and > found them to be more noisy and rough riding than I expected but > their wet and dry traction is very good. They are absolutely useless > in snow. > > BrianMinto > Calgary I replaced the Racing Harts on my MSM with 16x7 Enkei's in an affort to soften the ride It did, but not much. I suppose I should have gone to 15" wheels, but just didn't like the look. I wimped out and put all-season tires on them (I know, I know) because I thought I needed to be able drive in the occasional snow we have in Dallas. But then I decided to retire from my job and it turns out I don't have to go anywhere if I don't want to. |
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