94 Accord - tires?

ACAR wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> how is anyone ever going to find out? back-dating stock options was
>> rife for decades, despite the thousands of people involved, auditors,
>> lawyers, etc. but no one "found out" until an academic started doing
>> analysis based on logic, not the "accepted truth". it's naked emperor
>> syndrome writ large.
>>
>>
> But if the consumer were to find out, their core business model is
> toast. Murphy's Law.
>
> Smackdown!
> Naked emperor syndrome vs. Murphy's Law
> - film at 11
>
well, some consumers stay away when they lose confidence, but not all.
after all, you want to retire, right? what do you do with your
retirement savings? most people have some exposure to the stock market
regardless. they may adjust the extent of that exposure, and weight in
companies they feel safest, but they pretty much have to be in, whether
it's directly or indirectly.

ACAR wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> i'm not 100% sure the author
>> has the full story - he says that m1 is still pao,
>
> note 2001 date on article
>
> but the msds
>> contradicts that - i have to go with the msds rather than the market
>> analyst.
>>
> I'm sure the more recent msds is correct.
>
> The article offers hope re. return of PAO. Competition will force down
> the price of "synthetic" oils (I've got a coupon from Pep Boys for $15
> off on a case of Pennzoil or Quaker State). Once that happens it will
> be easier to put PAO back into M1 and market accordingly. Well, maybe.
>
an after-word on that: i wrote part of that wiki article, and keep an
eye on it from time to time. it's been interesting how persistent is
the problem of keeping that msds info up there. i can't say for sure
that it's manufacturers directly doing the removal, but it's remarkable
coincidence that it's only the mobil and amsoil links that seem to
disappear - with amusing regularity. i predict that the msds info
itself will disappear next.

jim beam wrote:

> well, some consumers stay away when they lose confidence, but not all.

no risk there...

> after all, you want to retire, right? what do you do with your
> retirement savings? most people have some exposure to the stock market
> regardless. they may adjust the extent of that exposure, and weight in
> companies they feel safest, but they pretty much have to be in, whether
> it's directly or indirectly.

kinda hard to spin up another NYSE
competitive online tire stores already exist