Right Lane Impatience

>
> I had the same car pass me IIRC 4 times in the same day. I was on a
> west bound coast to coast trip leaving out of somewhere west of
> Chicago. I was doing the usual posted (60) plus pretty well with the
> flow for what little traffic there was back then (60s). That car was
> doing in excess of 80 and was also on at least a full days drive. I
> couldn't see what he thought he was gaining.

What you didn't see is that he was napping for an hour or so every time he
stopped. So while he wasn't eating up miles any faster than you were, he
was very well rested while doing so. -Dave

In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
> Brent P wrote:
>> In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
>>
>> > Well then... it should be pretty easy to describe your method of
>> > discerning how the other drivers didn't stop for lunch too, dimwit.
>>
>> Because their speed didn't allow for it. Had they stopped, I would have
>> remained ahead of them.
> -----
> LOL! Plus... you're a fast eater, huh?

Obviously you didn't read my posts in this thread.

In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
> Brent P wrote:
>> In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
>> > Matthew Russotto wrote: <relevance snip>
>> >>
>> >> I can pass drivers, continue for a while, stop for lunch, and then
>> >> get back out on the road and pass some of those same drivers (who
>> >> didn't stop). They probably figure my extra speed didn't gain me anything...
>> > -----
>> >
>> > Oh, yeah. Sure you do. Entirely plausible. What a hero...
>>
>> I have. Stopped for gas some snacks, got back on the road and passed the
>> same semis I had earlier a few moments later.
> -----
> Assuming constant speeds in a vacuum etc. because I no do arithmetic
> well good...
>
> Semi speed = 60. Yours = 75. Stop = 15 minutes. The semis will be 15
> miles ahead. At the 15 mph speed differential it'll obviously be AN
> HOUR before you catch those trucks.

First, who needs 15 minutes to get gas?
Second, who drives 75mph in the middle of nowhere?
Third, your math is flawed and assumes no lead had been built up between
the time the semi was initially passed and when it was passed the second
time.

> Figure 30 mintes for lunch and TWO HOURS.
>
> Your "few moments" is about an hour to me.

The problem is your math, your logic skills, and no ability to gauge the
time to complete a simple task.

Brent P wrote:
> In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
> > Brent P wrote:
> >> In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
> >> > Matthew Russotto wrote: <relevance snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> I can pass drivers, continue for a while, stop for lunch, and then
> >> >> get back out on the road and pass some of those same drivers (who
> >> >> didn't stop). They probably figure my extra speed didn't gain me anything...
> >> > -----
> >> >
> >> > Oh, yeah. Sure you do. Entirely plausible. What a hero...
> >>
> >> I have. Stopped for gas some snacks, got back on the road and passed the
> >> same semis I had earlier a few moments later.
> > -----
> > Assuming constant speeds in a vacuum etc. because I no do arithmetic
> > well good...
> >
> > Semi speed = 60. Yours = 75. Stop = 15 minutes. The semis will be 15
> > miles ahead. At the 15 mph speed differential it'll obviously be AN
> > HOUR before you catch those trucks.
>
> First, who needs 15 minutes to get gas?

You do. You said "gas (and) some snacks". That implies a trip inside
the store. I'll even give you no waiting time behind other customers.
I thought 15 minutes was pretty ****ing generous.

> Second, who drives 75mph in the middle of nowhere?

You do... but your late addition of the "middle of nowhere" qualifier
is noted. You obviously *know* you have no argument. If you can
assume the other vehicles *never* stopped... I don't think I'm pushing
any boundries assuming you drive 75 "in the middle of nowhere".

First you changed "drivers' to "semis" and "lunch" to "gas and snacks".
Now you want to add "in the middle of nowhere". ****, make it "on the
moon" or "in interstellar space" for all I give a ****.

> Third, your math is flawed and assumes no lead had been built up between
> the time the semi was initially passed and when it was passed the second
> time.

What math...? I don't do no math. You mean arithmetic? That seems
pretty simple to me.

<quote> Stopped for gas some snacks, got back on the road and passed
the same semis I had earlier a few moments later." </quote>.

I see you didn't build any specific lead time into your argument. But
I'm supposed to "assume" it?! So... if you passed the semi's an hour
or two earlier, then stopped for 15-30 minutes, then passed them again,
what's unique about that sequence of events? Except that you've
remembered passing those *particular* semis? We all know that no two
have any resemblance to each other.

A "few moments" I think would generally be accepted as no longer than
the average person can hold their breath. If you meant a few minutes
you're still ****ed; 5-10 minutes from 60 still leaves 55 to 50 minutes
and most people aren't going to consider that "a few moments". For
example: You "pause for" a few moments; you "stop for" a few minutes
and you "linger for" about an hour.
>
> The problem is your math, your logic skills, and no ability to gauge the
> time to complete a simple task.

Please cite an error in my "math".

What logic...? And what's your problem with *that*?

Simple task? Getting fuel or eating? I know I lose an average of
about 15 minutes getting fuel from exit to re-entrance of the highway
when I don't dally around getting "snacks". My lunch is usually 40-60
minutes not including travel, often longer. What's your problem with
*that*?

It's time for you to pull out the ol' <plonk>, Brent.

If you've got an argument, make it. If you don't, just say you
disagree and leave it at that. There's no sense in making a fool of
yourself over it.
-----

- gpsman

gpsman wrote:

> Semi speed = 60. Yours = 75. Stop = 15 minutes. The semis will be 15
> miles ahead. At the 15 mph speed differential it'll obviously be AN
> HOUR before you catch those trucks.

Hardly. On occasion, I'll pass a vehicle with out of state plates
(plates that are not VA or WV plates). About 8 minutes later I pull
into a gas station, refuel, and pull back onto the road (I probably take
around 5 minutes tops to refuel and reset the tripmeter and all the trip
computer gauges). I'll pass the same vehicle roughly 15 minutes later.

If I were to get some snacks from the convenience store, I'd probably
take an additional 3 minutes at most to get what I need. That'll
probably extend the time it takes me to catch up with them around 10
minutes (for a total of 25 minutes).

In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
> Brent P wrote:
>> In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
>> > Brent P wrote:
>> >> In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
>> >> > Matthew Russotto wrote: <relevance snip>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can pass drivers, continue for a while, stop for lunch, and then
>> >> >> get back out on the road and pass some of those same drivers (who
>> >> >> didn't stop). They probably figure my extra speed didn't gain me anything...
>> >> > -----
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, yeah. Sure you do. Entirely plausible. What a hero...
>> >>
>> >> I have. Stopped for gas some snacks, got back on the road and passed the
>> >> same semis I had earlier a few moments later.
>> > -----
>> > Assuming constant speeds in a vacuum etc. because I no do arithmetic
>> > well good...
>> >
>> > Semi speed = 60. Yours = 75. Stop = 15 minutes. The semis will be 15
>> > miles ahead. At the 15 mph speed differential it'll obviously be AN
>> > HOUR before you catch those trucks.
>>
>> First, who needs 15 minutes to get gas?
>
> You do. You said "gas (and) some snacks". That implies a trip inside
> the store. I'll even give you no waiting time behind other customers.
> I thought 15 minutes was pretty ****ing generous.

That doesn't take 15 minutes in rural WI or IN. One person fills the car,
the other person is in and out with a candy and/or juice. Done.

>> Second, who drives 75mph in the middle of nowhere?

> You do... but your late addition of the "middle of nowhere" qualifier
> is noted. You obviously *know* you have no argument. If you can
> assume the other vehicles *never* stopped... I don't think I'm pushing
> any boundries assuming you drive 75 "in the middle of nowhere".

75mph in the middle of nowhere is slow.

> First you changed "drivers' to "semis" and "lunch" to "gas and snacks".
> Now you want to add "in the middle of nowhere". ****, make it "on the
> moon" or "in interstellar space" for all I give a ****.

I didn't change anything. I responded with my own experience. If you
can't keep track of who wrote what, I would suggest you not bother with
usenet.

>> Third, your math is flawed and assumes no lead had been built up between
>> the time the semi was initially passed and when it was passed the second
>> time.

> What math...? I don't do no math. You mean arithmetic? That seems
> pretty simple to me.

I already pointed out what you neglected.

><quote> Stopped for gas some snacks, got back on the road and passed
> the same semis I had earlier a few moments later." </quote>.

> I see you didn't build any specific lead time into your argument. But
> I'm supposed to "assume" it?! So... if you passed the semi's an hour
> or two earlier, then stopped for 15-30 minutes, then passed them again,
> what's unique about that sequence of events? Except that you've
> remembered passing those *particular* semis? We all know that no two
> have any resemblance to each other.

Anything to get a rise out of people, eh?

> A "few moments" I think would generally be accepted as no longer than
> the average person can hold their breath. If you meant a few minutes
> you're still ****ed; 5-10 minutes from 60 still leaves 55 to 50 minutes
> and most people aren't going to consider that "a few moments". For
> example: You "pause for" a few moments; you "stop for" a few minutes
> and you "linger for" about an hour.

I've already explained the flaws in your reasoning.

>> The problem is your math, your logic skills, and no ability to gauge the
>> time to complete a simple task.

> Please cite an error in my "math".

Already have.

> What logic...? And what's your problem with *that*?

Already poosted.

> Simple task? Getting fuel or eating? I know I lose an average of
> about 15 minutes getting fuel from exit to re-entrance of the highway
> when I don't dally around getting "snacks". My lunch is usually 40-60
> minutes not including travel, often longer. What's your problem with
> *that*?

You obviously don't grasp the concept of eating in the vehicle.

> It's time for you to pull out the ol' <plonk>, Brent.

No, your stupidity is still amusing.

> If you've got an argument, make it. If you don't, just say you
> disagree and leave it at that. There's no sense in making a fool of
> yourself over it.

Arguement has been made, and the only fool here is you.

Brent P wrote: <brevity snip>

> That doesn't take 15 minutes in rural WI or IN. One person fills the car,
> the other person is in and out with a candy and/or juice. Done.

You are ****ing ****ting me...

Now... instead of "I", it's "WE"?! You... and your pitcrew next?

You've added another whole 'nother ****ing PERSON to help...?! Why not
swap out for a motorcycle too, as long as you're at it? Add some jet
engines to it. And some roller skates.

> Anything to get a rise out of people, eh?

Duh. Anything to try to make sense of an argument that contains
ever-changing criteria.

> I've already explained the flaws in your reasoning.

BuhWaHahahaha...! Just copy and paste it in again, I must nota
recognized it.

> > Please cite an error in my "math".
>
> Already have.

Duh, yeah...by adding another person to the equation. And it still
doesn't work!

> > What logic...? And what's your problem with *that*?

> Already poosted.

Couldn't agree more with THAT...!

> Arguement has been made, and the only fool here is you.

Duh, I guess.

You're one of the dimwits who can't get from A to B without
encountering herds of Sloths and LLBs in your way, somebody *always*
slowing you down. In your case, even on your *bicycle*. As soon as
you need to make an implausible claim in r.a.d, they *all* suddenly
cease to exist.

I wanted to know how old you are because younger people often seem to
rationalize their behavior as somehow the fault of others. The "He
made me do it" syndrome. You do that.

They also tend to change people/events/time and add qualifiers later,
when they discover the facts don't really equal their professed truth.
You do that. Their egos tend to be so fragile that they'll suffer
almost any humiliation rather than admit the smallest error. You do
that.

And you, as the young sometimes do, have no qualms about professing an
opinion and then countering it in your own argument... ala the, "I'm
not exibiting any Alpha male behavior, it doesn't have anything to do
with that... but nobody's getting in front of ME because I don't let
people push me around..." thread. What were you thinking...? Adults
aren't too concerned with being pushed around because that's... well,
it's so childish on so many levels... but we just don't think like
that.

So I'm just wondering, how old are ya? Nevermind, doesn't matter.
-----

- gpsman

Brent P wrote:

> > You do. You said "gas (and) some snacks". That implies a trip inside
> > the store. I'll even give you no waiting time behind other customers.
> > I thought 15 minutes was pretty ****ing generous.
>
> That doesn't take 15 minutes in rural WI or IN. One person fills the car,
> the other person is in and out with a candy and/or juice. Done.

Alone I can get gas, snacks, and probably wash my windshield in well
under 10 minutes. 5 minutes most places, maybe 1 or 2 more if I use an
ATM.

I can't believe you keep letting this moron drag you back in.

Dave

In article .com>, gpsman wrote:
> Brent P wrote: <brevity snip>
>
>> That doesn't take 15 minutes in rural WI or IN. One person fills the car,
>> the other person is in and out with a candy and/or juice. Done.
>
> You are ****ing ****ting me...
> Now... instead of "I", it's "WE"?! You... and your pitcrew next?

Because I didn't think some nit-picking asshole of a troll would make a
big deal about it. But I've posted here regarding road trips I take
before and the regulars would recall they are at least two of us.
Typically my friend's van is used, but when I've driven, I've repassed
people who didn't stop.

> You're one of the dimwits who can't get from A to B without
> encountering herds of Sloths and LLBs in your way, somebody *always*
> slowing you down. In your case, even on your *bicycle*.

Yes, that's what traffic is like in big urban areas. Much of the time one
is lucky to make what I call a good bicycle average speed. (18mph)

> As soon as
> you need to make an implausible claim in r.a.d, they *all* suddenly
> cease to exist.

You are reading impared. The sloths, LLBs, etc are mostly in the chicago
area. In this thread I mentioned rural WI and IN. (not to mention, WV,
PA, and OH) Even morgantown WV I found a lack of LLBs and sloths that was
absolutely wonderful. (check google, I've posted on it, was july/august
2003) You seem to think I have the same driving experience on all roads
everywhere. For someone who has professed to travel by driving over so
much of the nation one would think that you'd know that couldn't
possibily be true.

> I wanted to know how old you are because younger people often seem to
> rationalize their behavior as somehow the fault of others. The "He
> made me do it" syndrome. You do that.

I have made no such rationalization. You're reading comprehension and
confusion of who posted what is setting in again.

> They also tend to change people/events/time and add qualifiers later,
> when they discover the facts don't really equal their professed truth.

Check my posts regarding my road trips on google. I have the record to
prove otherwise.

> You do that. Their egos tend to be so fragile that they'll suffer
> almost any humiliation rather than admit the smallest error. You do
> that.

I've admitted quite a few errors on here. Again, I have the google
archive to back me up here.

> And you, as the young sometimes do, have no qualms about professing an
> opinion and then countering it in your own argument... ala the, "I'm
> not exibiting any Alpha male behavior, it doesn't have anything to do
> with that... but nobody's getting in front of ME because I don't let
> people push me around..." thread. What were you thinking...? Adults
> aren't too concerned with being pushed around because that's... well,
> it's so childish on so many levels... but we just don't think like
> that.

Adults don't worry about being pushed around? Ok, why don't you go push
some around and see what happens. I suggest you start small like cutting
in line at the grocery check out and working your way up. Let me know if
you find adults who don't care you did those things.

In article .com>, Dave wrote:
>
> Brent P wrote:
>
>> > You do. You said "gas (and) some snacks". That implies a trip inside
>> > the store. I'll even give you no waiting time behind other customers.
>> > I thought 15 minutes was pretty ****ing generous.
>>
>> That doesn't take 15 minutes in rural WI or IN. One person fills the car,
>> the other person is in and out with a candy and/or juice. Done.
>
> Alone I can get gas, snacks, and probably wash my windshield in well
> under 10 minutes. 5 minutes most places, maybe 1 or 2 more if I use an
> ATM.

> I can't believe you keep letting this moron drag you back in.

I can visualize his blood pressure rising