Why do people buy a 2010 STi instead of a 2004 Corvette ZO6 or a 2006Base Corvette?

I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
comparisons.

2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
top speed)

2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
limited top speed)

2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
to speed)

I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
Nurburgring.

Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.

154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
can beat an STI on the Autobahn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab0qx...eature=related

On Mar 31, 3:54*am, Sal > wrote:
> I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
> corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
> comparisons.
>
> 2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
> top speed)
>
> 2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
> limited top speed)
>
> 2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
> to speed)
>
> I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
> Nurburgring.
>
> Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.
>
> 154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
> can beat an STI on the Autobahn.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab0qx...eature=related


troll... do not feed... let die.

>"1 Lucky Texan" > wrote in message
...
>On Mar 31, 3:54 am, Sal > wrote:
>> I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
>> corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
>> comparisons.
>>
>> 2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag
>> limited
>> top speed)
>>
>> 2008 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile mph, 190 mph drag
>> limited top speed)
>>
>> 2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag
>> limited
>> to speed)
>>
>> I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
>> Nurburgring.
>>
>> Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an
>> STI.
>>
>> 154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
>> can beat an STI on the Autobahn.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab0qx...eature=related
>
>
>troll... do not feed... let die.

OK, cross poster.

On Mar 31, 4:54*am, Sal > wrote:
> I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
> corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
> comparisons.
>
> 2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
> top speed)
>
> 2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
> limited top speed)
>
> 2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
> to speed)
>
> I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
> Nurburgring.
>
> Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.
>
> 154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
> can beat an STI on the Autobahn.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab0qx...eature=related

I think the answer to the original question is utility, longevity, and
the lack of time that one actually gets to drive as fast as they want.
That is why someone would buy a slower STi rather than a vette. Lets
see the charger on an autocross course versus an STi. David and
Goliath... Actually more of Olympic sprinter versus front tackle.

Crosspost killed ------ Just atwixt us girls.

Obviously Sal has not driven these cars or he'd know.

It has little to do with performance.

The Subaru will have more appeal as a daily driver for the guy who parks
it in row seven of the corporate parking lot. It's also superior on
wet, slushy, muddy roads.

--
pj


weelliott wrote:
> On Mar 31, 4:54 am, Sal > wrote:
>> I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
>> corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
>> comparisons.
>>
>> 2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
>> top speed)
>>
>> 2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
>> limited top speed)
>>
>> 2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
>> to speed)
>>
>> I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
>> Nurburgring.
>>
>> Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.
>>
>> 154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
>> can beat an STI on the Autobahn.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab0qx...eature=related
>
> I think the answer to the original question is utility, longevity, and
> the lack of time that one actually gets to drive as fast as they want.
> That is why someone would buy a slower STi rather than a vette. Lets
> see the charger on an autocross course versus an STi. David and
> Goliath... Actually more of Olympic sprinter versus front tackle.


--
pj

"Sal" > wrote in message
...
>I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base
> corvette before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the
> comparisons.
>
> 2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited
> top speed)
>
> 2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag
> limited top speed)
>
> 2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited
> to speed)
>
> I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
> Nurburgring.
>
> Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.
>
> 154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000
> can beat an STI on the Autobahn.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab0qx...eature=related
>
>
Back seat?

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:54:18 -0700, Sal wrote:

> I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base corvette
> before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the comparisons.
>
> 2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited top
> speed)
>
> 2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag limited
> top speed)
>
> 2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited to
> speed)
>
> I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
> Nurburgring.
>
> Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.
>
> 154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000 can
> beat an STI on the Autobahn.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab0qx...eature=related


Would you want to be seen in a Cobalt?

(Actually, I almost bought one. The dealer had a Loss Leader, the HiPo
engine, 5-speed, etc for ~$13000, but I just couldn't bring myself to
drive a CHEVY and wound up with a Scion tC. However, if it came between a
WRX and a Corvette...)

On Apr 2, 12:26 am, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B > wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:54:18 -0700, Sal wrote:
> > I mean I HATE Corvettes and I would buy a 2004 ZO6 or a 2006 base corvette
> > before I'd buy a 2010 STI or WRX. I mean let's look at the comparisons.
>
> > 2004 ZO6 (0-60 in 3.9, 1/4 mile in 12.4@116 mph, 171 mph drag limited top
> > speed)
>
> > 2006 Base Corvette (0-60 4.3, 1/4 mile 12.7@112 mph, 186 mph drag limited
> > top speed)
>
> > 2010 Subaru STI (0-60 4.8, 1/4 mile 13.5@100 mph, 154 mph drag limited to
> > speed)
>
> > I mean a regular STI will get beat by the 2007 Cobalt SS at the
> > Nurburgring.
>
> > Hell even a Charger SRT8 can do 173mph and costs the same as an STI.
>
> > 154 mph for an STI? Damn even a girl's car like a STOCK Honda S2000 can
> > beat an STI on the Autobahn.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab0qx...eature=related
>
> Would you want to be seen in a Cobalt?
>
> (Actually, I almost bought one. The dealer had a Loss Leader, the HiPo
> engine, 5-speed, etc for ~$13000, but I just couldn't bring myself to
> drive a CHEVY and wound up with a Scion tC. However, if it came between a
> WRX and a Corvette...)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I haven't owned a GM product for about 15 years. However, as a mamber
of SCCA, I was recruited to work the Chevy Rev-it-up event back in 05
when the cobalt SS non-supercharged first came out. Basically they let
people autocross them for 35 bucks in a national competition. I have
to admit that I was impressed with the handling of that car. I have
never believed in front drivers possibly having good dynamics, but it
did. I'm not a chevy fan, but I have to admit that if I could have
gotten a brand new supercharged one, or even the newer turbocharged
one for 13k, I'd have jumped at it.

I'm not a prestige kind of guy. I don't care what other people think
about what I drive. As evidence, I drive a baseline stock 12 year old
legacy with hubcaps. No glamour. But the performance that that car
offers really is class leading. It beat the GTI, Civic si, and
MazdaSpeed 3 in a comparison test. It was the attitude that it just
wasn't cool or probably wouldn't be reliable that killed its sales.
Kind of a shame.

weelliott wrote:
> I'm not a prestige kind of guy. I don't care what other people think
> about what I drive. As evidence, I drive a baseline stock 12 year old
> legacy with hubcaps. No glamour. But the performance that that car
> offers really is class leading. It beat the GTI, Civic si, and
> MazdaSpeed 3 in a comparison test. It was the attitude that it just
> wasn't cool or probably wouldn't be reliable that killed its sales.
> Kind of a shame.

The sense of shame in owning an American car ironically seems to be an
uniquely American psychosis. Canadians have no such problems. Besides my
Subaru, my other car is a Pontiac Grand Prix. American cars are easy to
find parts for relatively cheaply. No car in existence is ever going to
go without a part change somewhere along the way.

And I would think the recent Toyota problems have well and truly put to
the grave all pretensions about Japanese car's perceived superior quality.

Yousuf Khan

On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:11:46 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:

> weelliott wrote:
>> I'm not a prestige kind of guy. I don't care what other people think
>> about what I drive. As evidence, I drive a baseline stock 12 year old
>> legacy with hubcaps. No glamour. But the performance that that car
>> offers really is class leading. It beat the GTI, Civic si, and
>> MazdaSpeed 3 in a comparison test. It was the attitude that it just
>> wasn't cool or probably wouldn't be reliable that killed its sales. Kind
>> of a shame.
>
> The sense of shame in owning an American car ironically seems to be an
> uniquely American psychosis. Canadians have no such problems. Besides my
> Subaru, my other car is a Pontiac Grand Prix. American cars are easy to
> find parts for relatively cheaply. No car in existence is ever going to go
> without a part change somewhere along the way.
>
> And I would think the recent Toyota problems have well and truly put to
> the grave all pretensions about Japanese car's perceived superior quality.
>
> Yousuf Khan

You can bet that in three years or less, Toyota will be the car to own,
and they will probably be lower in price than others.

The Toyoda family is not going to let this go by the boards. One thing the
Japanese do that caucasians don't is "save face", and Toyota has a LOT of
face saving to do!

Within three years, they will be the best cars on Earth.

And considering a couple hiccups from Honda, don't expect them to be too
far behind...