Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series

Get the BMW. 1.Quality 2.Reliability
From a 2001 A4 2.8 Quattro Owner

"Asfwindsor" > wrote in message
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> I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro
A4.
>
> Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>
> H Castorp

"Asfwindsor" > wrote in message
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>I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro A4.
>
> Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>
> H Castorp

Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.

Dan J.S. wrote:

> "Asfwindsor" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro A4.
>>
>>Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>
>>H Castorp
>
>
> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.

Too bad it's so ugly.

--
Mike Smith

Mike Smith wrote:
> Dan J.S. wrote:
>
>> "Asfwindsor" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi
>>> Quattro A4. Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>>
>>> H Castorp
>>
>>
>> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
>
> Too bad it's so ugly.

Well, its not that bad. Audi is a pretty car! By far probably the best
looking. I am not sure what happened to the Germans, cars that used to be
rock solid are a thing of the past.

>I am not sure what happened to the Germans, cars that used to be
>rock solid are a thing of the past.
>

Mercedes Benz isn't what it used to be but the cars are still solid. In fact,
IMHO, MB is the only company who's cars interior quality can match or best the
Audi models. We test drove the ML-series SUV twice, once in late 2000 before my
mother got her RX300 and again a few weeks ago before she got her new Touraeg.
The exterior styling leaves a *lot* to be desired but the interior is extremely
nice and well put togethor.
Steve Grauman

What!?!?

The ML is the worst piece of trash that Mercedes has ever sold (in America).
If you thought that was anywhere near nice and/or well put together, you'd
love a vintage 1980s Jeep. Seriously, that thing is a tremendous step down
for MB, and they've been somewhat practiced at stepping down build quality
and reliability for the last 10 years.

Check out a 1994 vintage W124 E-class or an even older W126 S-class. You
will find many examples of those 10+ year old cars with fewer rattles,
tighter exterior panel fit, and better internal fit and finish than a new ML
that just rolled off the assembly line.


On 12/8/04 10:42 PM, in article
, "Steve Grauman"
> wrote:

>> I am not sure what happened to the Germans, cars that used to be
>> rock solid are a thing of the past.
>>
>
> Mercedes Benz isn't what it used to be but the cars are still solid. In fact,
> IMHO, MB is the only company who's cars interior quality can match or best the
> Audi models. We test drove the ML-series SUV twice, once in late 2000 before
> my
> mother got her RX300 and again a few weeks ago before she got her new Touraeg.
> The exterior styling leaves a *lot* to be desired but the interior is
> extremely
> nice and well put togethor.
> Steve Grauman

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 15:50:42 -0500, Mike Smith
> wrote:

>Dan J.S. wrote:
>
>> "Asfwindsor" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro A4.
>>>
>>>Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>>
>>>H Castorp
>>
>>
>> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
>
>Too bad it's so ugly.

The IS 300 is too small, no ski sack, flip/fold down seats, FWD...
shall I go on? Get the Corolla XRS for 1/2 the price if you are stuck
on a small car.

BMWs though nice are too common and option up real pretty like. Go to
the Audi page and option up an A4 and then try it with BMW. You will
spend ~ $8K more for the BMW. And look like every other mook on the
road with a 3 series.

The G35 is pretty OK, my second choice. Distant 2nd. What Nissan is
doing with the G35 is pumping up the HP in lieu of other useful things
like how the rear seat functions, fit and finish and so on. The extra
HP instead of useful things is something I would expect from the US
car assemblers. More HP = more fuel consumption. Do you need 250 HP to
toodle around at 50 km/hr? I don't and chose the A4 1.8 q.

>
>--
>Mike Smith

Cam Newton wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 15:50:42 -0500, Mike Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> Dan J.S. wrote:
>>
>>> "Asfwindsor" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi
>>>> Quattro A4.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> H Castorp
>>>
>>>
>>> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
>>
>> Too bad it's so ugly.
>
> The IS 300 is too small, no ski sack, flip/fold down seats, FWD...
> shall I go on? Get the Corolla XRS for 1/2 the price if you are stuck
> on a small car.

The IS is rear wheel drive... and the new one will be AWD...

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:42:03 -0600, "Dan J.S." > wrote:

>Cam Newton wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 15:50:42 -0500, Mike Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Dan J.S. wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Asfwindsor" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi
>>>>> Quattro A4.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> H Castorp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
>>>
>>> Too bad it's so ugly.
>>
>> The IS 300 is too small, no ski sack, flip/fold down seats, FWD...
>> shall I go on? Get the Corolla XRS for 1/2 the price if you are stuck
>> on a small car.
>
>The IS is rear wheel drive... and the new one will be AWD...
>
>


I am thinking too much weight for the frame with a new AWD system.
Everybody is onto AWD but Audi was there first.

Why not an Volvo S40? Or save loadsadough and go with the Mazda 3.

If you can wait for the 2006 models, there will be a lot of fresh blood.
New 3-series, IS, revised A4, Passat. Did you consider the S40 T5 AWD?


"Asfwindsor" > wrote in message
...
> I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro
A4.
>
> Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>
> H Castorp