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  #51  
Old January 2nd 05, 08:50 AM
Byron Forbes
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"Mark Davison" > wrote in message
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> > I don't believe - period!

>
> So it's all black or white? Fact or fiction?
>
> You're right and everyone else is delusional?
>
> Explains a lot.
>


No, it's black or white, OR it's a theory/idea under testing. Belief is
assuming something is true ie idiotic!


> >> Obviously I'm confused. I thought .com.AU was AUssie. I guess it's
> >> actually "Alternate Universe"
> >>
> >> C'mon - gimme more info. You never did tell me how you came to know
> >> about
> >> these Gods of yours. You avoided the answer with some claptrap, but me
> >> being stupid, I need you to keep it simple. Were you visited? Do you

> > have
> >> any photos of yourself down the pub* with some god mates of yours?
> >>
> >> *pub - public house - a place where humans socialise with one another.
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Been ejected out of this body by the gods and suspended in mid air -
> > had
> > a conversation with the Irish ****wit whilst something like a king took
> > possession of this flesh to say to a few bitches what it couldn't say

thru
> > me. Also, had the gods come up to me acting thru humans I never knew and
> > speek to me about thoughts I had shared with no one.

>
> So you had a bad trip or someone spiked your drink and you convinced
> yourself that some nonsense was fact. You're the quiet boy who keeps
> himself to himself and will end up on a pointless killing spree before
> blowing his own brains out. In the name of the gods.
>


So not only do you know all about death, you know there are no gods
also. Oh hang on - you believe these things are a fact - LOL. At least
you're consistant - consistantly clueless!

> > Pointless to share this with the likes of you of course. If they can
> > convince you to believe it is a fact (LOL - I get a kick out of that)

that
> > death = ceasure to be, then it will be equally as easy for them to make


> > you
> > dismiss these words as the ravings of a lunatic. I'm betting you'll be

one
> > of the hoards that become aware of the gods when it's all too late for
> > you!
> >

>
> Who's "they" again?
>


"They" are the ones who program you to think you know all about death
and that there are no gods - "they" are the gods. Since you have no mental
capacity to work out anything for yourself you are a simple, typical,
politically correct drone.

> Your gods do not exist despite what you *think* you know to be fact. I

will
> live my life as I see fit with family and friends and I will enjoy it
>


Moral to story - Ignorance is bliss (right up until.................).
Have a nice life


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  #52  
Old January 3rd 05, 12:46 PM
Mark Davison
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"Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
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>


> No, it's black or white, OR it's a theory/idea under testing. Belief is
> assuming something is true ie idiotic!


So you don't believe in anything. OK.

See, I'm comfortable with not knowing stuff. I ain't a control freak. I
have no idea how life came about but I don't invent any sort of omnipitent
(sp?) being to answer current unanswerables to help get me by day to day.
Maybe trillions of years ago there was an explosion in a lab and we were the
result. Perhaps there are pan-galactic mega beings. Whatever, I don't
believe any of these give a **** about a bunch of walking, talking meat.

I never did get any evidence of these gods from you.

>> >. Also, had the gods come up to me acting thru humans I never knew and
>> > speek to me about thoughts I had shared with no one.


I saw Derrin Brown do stuff like this on Telly. Stunning trickery. Have no
idea how he did it. Was it your gods?

> So not only do you know all about death, you know there are no gods
> also. Oh hang on - you believe these things are a fact - LOL. At least
> you're consistant - consistantly clueless!


Probably. Never claimed to be anything else, tho

>> Who's "they" again?
>>

>
> "They" are the ones who program you to think you know all about death
> and that there are no gods - "they" are the gods. Since you have no mental
> capacity to work out anything for yourself you are a simple, typical,
> politically correct drone.


The gods programmed me to think there are no gods? Why would that be so?

If I am a programmed drone then *obviously* I have no capacity for
independent thought. I'm programmed - mental capacity is irrelevant. You
say your gods made me this way. Why are you even spending time conversing?
Don't stop, tho. The mess you come out with is morbidly fascinating.

>> Your gods do not exist despite what you *think* you know to be fact. I

> will
>> live my life as I see fit with family and friends and I will enjoy it
>>

>
> Moral to story - Ignorance is bliss (right up until.................).


Until what?

> Have a nice life


I had a nice new years with my family and friends hence delay in replying.
You?


  #53  
Old January 3rd 05, 12:51 PM
Mark Davison
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"Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
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> Buddy, if you don't understand why a typical fella prefers to not have
> faggots around then I suppose there's no reasoning with you at all.


Buddy, you've proven yourself to be pretty frickin far from a "typical
fella" in this thread. This point can be considered moot ;-)

> Some people like to swim around with white pointers - most don't.


Ya, cos you know "most" people LOL

Did the gods tell you this "fact"?

Too funny!!!


  #54  
Old January 4th 05, 02:55 AM
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"Mark Davison" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
>

...
> >

>
> > No, it's black or white, OR it's a theory/idea under testing. Belief

is
> > assuming something is true ie idiotic!

>
> So you don't believe in anything. OK.
>
> See, I'm comfortable with not knowing stuff. I ain't a control freak. I
> have no idea how life came about but I don't invent any sort of omnipitent
> (sp?) being to answer current unanswerables to help get me by day to day.
> Maybe trillions of years ago there was an explosion in a lab and we were

the
> result. Perhaps there are pan-galactic mega beings. Whatever, I don't
> believe any of these give a **** about a bunch of walking, talking meat.
>
> I never did get any evidence of these gods from you.
>


Gee, you love your bull**** don't you! Anyway, finally you realise you
know nothing - agreed! But no doubt you'll continue to speak as though you
do as you have done from the start.

> >> >. Also, had the gods come up to me acting thru humans I never knew and
> >> > speek to me about thoughts I had shared with no one.

>
> I saw Derrin Brown do stuff like this on Telly. Stunning trickery. Have

no
> idea how he did it. Was it your gods?
>


Very good. But there you go again. You already said you know nothing and
now it seems you "know" this was mere trickery.


> > So not only do you know all about death, you know there are no gods
> > also. Oh hang on - you believe these things are a fact - LOL. At least
> > you're consistant - consistantly clueless!

>
> Probably. Never claimed to be anything else, tho
>
> >> Who's "they" again?
> >>

> >
> > "They" are the ones who program you to think you know all about death
> > and that there are no gods - "they" are the gods. Since you have no

mental
> > capacity to work out anything for yourself you are a simple, typical,
> > politically correct drone.

>
> The gods programmed me to think there are no gods? Why would that be so?
>


LOL - ummm, so they can enjoy complete control over you. Would you let
them control you if you were aware of them?

> If I am a programmed drone then *obviously* I have no capacity for
> independent thought. I'm programmed - mental capacity is irrelevant. You
> say your gods made me this way. Why are you even spending time

conversing?
> Don't stop, tho. The mess you come out with is morbidly fascinating.
>


Very good - so far you seem to be little more than an embrio. But if I
can make you see how idiotic your ideas about death are, for eg, then this
may stimulate some brain activity and even make you wonder how such nonsense
got there in the first place.


> >> Your gods do not exist despite what you *think* you know to be fact. I

> > will
> >> live my life as I see fit with family and friends and I will enjoy it


> >>

> >
> > Moral to story - Ignorance is bliss (right up

until.................).
>
> Until what?
>


Until you inevitably pay the price of ignorance!


  #55  
Old January 4th 05, 03:18 AM
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"Mark Davison" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
>

...
> > Buddy, if you don't understand why a typical fella prefers to not

have
> > faggots around then I suppose there's no reasoning with you at all.

>
> Buddy, you've proven yourself to be pretty frickin far from a "typical
> fella" in this thread. This point can be considered moot ;-)
>


Well, this is true. But still, the typical fella still feels this way.
The gov't that tells them all about how free they are and how well they're
doing has bullied them into conducting themselves in a false way though.
You're a perfect example.

Go read a book called 1984 - it was a propagander book used in the cold
war days to frighten people about communism. The theme is totalatarianism
and one of the concepts is doublespeak. Read the book - then realise that's
were you now live


> > Some people like to swim around with white pointers - most don't.

>
> Ya, cos you know "most" people LOL
>
> Did the gods tell you this "fact"?
>
> Too funny!!!
>


So you're saying most people would gladly go for a dip with a bunch of
white pointers. You really do live in a different part of the woods don't
ya? Seems we're both far from the norm.


  #56  
Old January 4th 05, 09:56 PM
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"Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
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>


> Gee, you love your bull**** don't you!


Common ground!

> Anyway, finally you realise you
> know nothing - agreed! But no doubt you'll continue to speak as though you
> do as you have done from the start.


No - I know nothing. You need to convince me that my beliefs that life ends
with death are incorrect. You are the one who claims to KNOW that this is
not the case. I think death is game over, end of story, you do not,
CONVINCE ME fella

>> >> >. Also, had the gods come up to me acting thru humans I never knew
>> >> >and
>> >> > speek to me about thoughts I had shared with no one.

>>
>> I saw Derrin Brown do stuff like this on Telly. Stunning trickery. Have

> no
>> idea how he did it. Was it your gods?
>>

> Very good. But there you go again. You already said you know nothing
> and
> now it seems you "know" this was mere trickery.


He himself admits it's trickery. Or is he lying to appease the gods...
hmmm...

>> The gods programmed me to think there are no gods? Why would that be so?
>>

>
> LOL - ummm, so they can enjoy complete control over you. Would you let
> them control you if you were aware of them?


Doh - I'm not "out of the box" enough, am I. Still thinking in my
traditional ways... Most religions require a trust in a god of some
description. What you're saying is that all other religions are mere folly
(we'd agree there if so) and that no-one but a select few are aware of the
TRUE gods that you speak of. It took time but am I following now? These
gods don't need or want us puny humans to know about them, they just want to
play with us like toys? Are they omnipitent? Do they know my thoughts?
The thoughts of every person (soul?) on the planet? What about other
animals? Or are humans not animals?

> Very good - so far you seem to be little more than an embrio. But if I
> can make you see how idiotic your ideas about death are, for eg, then this
> may stimulate some brain activity and even make you wonder how such
> nonsense
> got there in the first place.


It got there through experience of never having met a ghost or anyone else
who'd died before. Also I've never heard a reliable account of contact from
beyond the grave... If I believed what I was taught at face value I'd be a
Protestant Christian as I went to a Church of England school.

> Until you inevitably pay the price of ignorance!


Which is? Don't skirt around the answer, Byron.

What are they gonna do with my ash once I've been cremated?


  #57  
Old January 4th 05, 10:01 PM
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"Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
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> Well, this is true. But still, the typical fella still feels this way.


Conduct a poll did you? Nevertheless, I'm surprised that you'd want to be
associated with the "typical fella".

> The gov't that tells them all about how free they are and how well they're
> doing has bullied them into conducting themselves in a false way though.
> You're a perfect example.


Define "false way".

> Go read a book called 1984 - it was a propagander book used in the cold
> war days to frighten people about communism. The theme is totalatarianism
> and one of the concepts is doublespeak. Read the book - then realise
> that's
> were you now live


Where d'you live?

> So you're saying most people would gladly go for a dip with a bunch of
> white pointers. You really do live in a different part of the woods don't
> ya? Seems we're both far from the norm.


Way different part from you, thankfully...


  #58  
Old January 5th 05, 04:50 PM
Byron Forbes
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"Mark Davison" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
>

...
>
> No - I know nothing. You need to convince me that my beliefs that life

ends
> with death are incorrect. You are the one who claims to KNOW that this is
> not the case. I think death is game over, end of story, you do not,
> CONVINCE ME fella
>


Well, ok.

Here's a few for ya

1/ If you can wake up in the human form in this life (ie be born here) then
why should this be a one off?

2/ How do you know that this is your first life? Maybe you were a monkey in
a past life.


> >> >> >. Also, had the gods come up to me acting thru humans I never knew
> >> >> >and
> >> >> > speek to me about thoughts I had shared with no one.
> >>
> >> I saw Derrin Brown do stuff like this on Telly. Stunning trickery.

Have
> > no
> >> idea how he did it. Was it your gods?
> >>

> > Very good. But there you go again. You already said you know nothing
> > and
> > now it seems you "know" this was mere trickery.

>
> He himself admits it's trickery. Or is he lying to appease the gods...
> hmmm...
>


Now that's different. You never mentioned he confessed to his deception.

> >> The gods programmed me to think there are no gods? Why would that be

so?
> >>

> >
> > LOL - ummm, so they can enjoy complete control over you. Would you

let
> > them control you if you were aware of them?

>
> Doh - I'm not "out of the box" enough, am I. Still thinking in my
> traditional ways... Most religions require a trust in a god of some
> description. What you're saying is that all other religions are mere

folly
> (we'd agree there if so) and that no-one but a select few are aware of the
> TRUE gods that you speak of. It took time but am I following now? These
> gods don't need or want us puny humans to know about them, they just want

to
> play with us like toys? Are they omnipitent? Do they know my thoughts?
> The thoughts of every person (soul?) on the planet? What about other
> animals? Or are humans not animals?
>


You really are catching on. And this has been the whole point of me
continuing this - to see if the penny starts to drop, how to get it to drop
and how long it takes. Interesting study!

> > Very good - so far you seem to be little more than an embrio. But if

I
> > can make you see how idiotic your ideas about death are, for eg, then

this
> > may stimulate some brain activity and even make you wonder how such
> > nonsense
> > got there in the first place.

>
> It got there through experience of never having met a ghost or anyone else
> who'd died before. Also I've never heard a reliable account of contact

from
> beyond the grave... If I believed what I was taught at face value I'd be

a
> Protestant Christian as I went to a Church of England school.
>


And the only way you will "know" this is by personal experience. I
assure you, you have seen gods - it's just a matter of knowing what you're
looking at when you're looking at it. This planet is full of empty headed
idiots that the gods can operate thru virtually unopposed - study
politicians in future - especially ones that are more of an American (lots
of American spirit - key word - "spirit") than a man in a place called
America. Ditto for all patriotic morons from any country.

> > Until you inevitably pay the price of ignorance!

>
> Which is? Don't skirt around the answer, Byron.
>
> What are they gonna do with my ash once I've been cremated?
>


LOL. Once "you've" been cremated - so you're just a bunch of meat are
you? Ok meat head! LOL. Time for you to investigate the distinction between
flesh and soul. No wonder you're so hard to get thru to - I've been talking
to a human body instead of "you".

There's a good Who song called "Who are you" - play it whilst looking in
the mirror!

"Who the **** are you" - a lump of meat robot with a brain for a cpu -
or a being "in" a human body (you know - a "human being")????

Now, time for me to go listen to one of the best rock songs of all
time - and I know the answer!


  #59  
Old January 5th 05, 09:27 PM
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"Byron Forbes" > wrote in message
...
>> No - I know nothing. You need to convince me that my beliefs that life

> ends
>> with death are incorrect. You are the one who claims to KNOW that this
>> is
>> not the case. I think death is game over, end of story, you do not,
>> CONVINCE ME fella

>
> Well, ok.
>
> Here's a few for ya
>
> 1/ If you can wake up in the human form in this life (ie be born here)
> then
> why should this be a one off?


That's conjecture - thought you dealt in fact?

Anyway, cos I don't remember doing it before and don't know anyone or *of*
anyone who has.

> 2/ How do you know that this is your first life? Maybe you were a monkey
> in
> a past life.


If I don't remember then it's pointless.

> Now that's different. You never mentioned he confessed to his
> deception.


Didn't think I needed to - there's no such thing as magic, you know that.

>> Doh - I'm not "out of the box" enough, am I. Still thinking in my
>> traditional ways... Most religions require a trust in a god of some
>> description. What you're saying is that all other religions are mere

> folly
>> (we'd agree there if so) and that no-one but a select few are aware of
>> the
>> TRUE gods that you speak of. It took time but am I following now? These
>> gods don't need or want us puny humans to know about them, they just want

> to
>> play with us like toys? Are they omnipitent? Do they know my thoughts?
>> The thoughts of every person (soul?) on the planet? What about other
>> animals? Or are humans not animals?

>
> You really are catching on. And this has been the whole point of me
> continuing this - to see if the penny starts to drop, how to get it to
> drop
> and how long it takes. Interesting study!


Funny, I was thinking a similar thing. I believe (that word again) you to
be a troll and that you're simply feeding off my responses. You can't
possibly think what you're spouting is truth or fact. I continue responding
to see how big a hole you will dig...

And once again you do not answer my questions. Are your gods omnipitent?
Do they know what every creature on the planet is thinking?

> And the only way you will "know" this is by personal experience. I
> assure you, you have seen gods - it's just a matter of knowing what you're
> looking at when you're looking at it. This planet is full of empty headed
> idiots that the gods can operate thru virtually unopposed - study
> politicians in future - especially ones that are more of an American (lots
> of American spirit - key word - "spirit") than a man in a place called
> America. Ditto for all patriotic morons from any country.


You've got a skewed way of thinking. I would agree that patriotism is a
tool used by authorities to help control "the masses". Instill in the
populace the importance of patriotism and how very bad it is to not be
patriotic.
Authorities: "If you don't like what we do you're not patriotic". Introduce
a "patriot act", perhaps...

Religion, by the same token, is very similar. "Opium for the masses". Do
what we say and you will have an eternity in paradise. Don't do as we say
and burn in hell.

You're going on like it's a John Carpenter movie LOL!

>> > Until you inevitably pay the price of ignorance!

>>
>> Which is? Don't skirt around the answer, Byron.
>>
>> What are they gonna do with my ash once I've been cremated?


> LOL. Once "you've" been cremated - so you're just a bunch of meat are
> you? Ok meat head! LOL. Time for you to investigate the distinction
> between
> flesh and soul. No wonder you're so hard to get thru to - I've been
> talking
> to a human body instead of "you".


A human body, that's me

And STILL you don't answer my question but skirt around it. What IS the
price of my ignorance.

> There's a good Who song called "Who are you" - play it whilst looking
> in
> the mirror!
>
> "Who the **** are you" - a lump of meat robot with a brain for a cpu -
> or a being "in" a human body (you know - a "human being")????


I am meat. Humans just happen to be a species at the top of the food chain.

You are close to winning, Byron. I know all you want is the last word. You
used to be more entertaining than you are now. You sound more like a boring
conspiracy theorist than the fun religious nutter you were earlier in the
thread.

Before I finish, tho, I just wanna try and collate what you've said. These
are my interpretations. It might bring back the "fun" Byron.

1. All mass or organised religions are false Followers of these religions
are drones. Likewise, atheists are drones.
2. You know of *true* gods.
3. These gods don't want us to know of their existence. All they want is to
control us.
4. These gods occupy human hosts - usually those in positions of authority.
5. You believe in the human "spirit" or "soul" (quite a traditional way of
thinking)
6. You believe in reincarnation
7. You believe there will be some sort of judgement day

These gods of yours are fallable. I thought gods were supposed to be
perfect? They don't want us to know about them but you know. Dang. How
clumsy are your gods? If they *wanted* you to know why would you be going
out of your way to tell us of their existence, thereby messing up their big
plan?

What big bad thing is gonna happen? You know, the thing that will prove you
right when all is said and done? Will I go to hell? Ooooh - how Christian!

What was that John Carpenter movie again, the one where that bloke put on
some specs and saw that we were being governed by aliens or something - They
Live. That was the one. Fiction.


  #60  
Old January 5th 05, 10:08 PM
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Man this topic took a huge swing to the...well I don't know...
Let's deal in some facts tho' ok.
1. Past lives are real...just ask Shirley MacLean.
2. People are not just meat... there is all of that bone.
3. Magic is real... just ask Zeigfried and Roy, or Penn and Teller.
4. Death is the end of life... but not taxes.

Aside from that, there wasn't much about EA racing "sims"

 




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