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2008 Honda Civic Ex Maintenance Schedule
Polfus wrote:
> > "Seth" > wrote > >> Sorry, no receipts. I buy oil at the local CarQuest. A case at a >> time of whatever is cheapest that visit. Average interval is about 7+ >> thousand between changes. > > Now see that just makes complete sense to me....change the oil every > 6500-7000 miles with today's choices, or the old Mobil 1 Synthetic. > > Thats what I have been doing with the stuff for 16 years....before there > were MMs on Hondas > > Peace, > Polfus hump #1 |
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Polfus wrote:
> > "Seth" > wrote > >> My '01 V6, a tad over 7k per change. But I'm a high mileage driver. >> My commute, 3 times a week, is 77 miles each way, very much of it 60+ >> mph highway. > > Yeah...but still the figures make sense to me at least. > > Peace, > Polfus hump #2 |
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Polfus wrote:
> > "Elle" > wrote > >> To update the thread, we do have some reports on when the MM is >> calling for an oil change: >> Jan 21 JXStern and Elliot Richmond: About every 6k miles, twice now. >> Jan 13 Joe L.: About every 6k miles, twice now. >> Aug 5 2007 Santos: About every 6500-6800 miles, four times. >> Dec 4 2006 John H.: About every 7k miles. > > Interesting...thanks for that info! > > Peace, > Polfus hump #3 |
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Polfus wrote:
> > "Timothy J. Lee" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, >> Elmo P. Shagnasty > wrote: >>> What is it nowadays--API SJ? >> >> The most recent API rating for oils for gasoline engines is SM. >> http://www.api.org/certifications/en...lGuide2006.pdf >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Timothy J. Lee >> Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. >> No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. > > Thanks for that, Timothy! > > Interesting that there is no info for degredation properties of motor > oils on that. > > Anyone have a link to such info? > > Peace, > Polfus hump #4 |
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Polfus wrote:
> > "jim beam" > wrote > >> Polfus wrote: >>> <snip crap> > > Hey...you are a little **** when you want to be, no doubt. > >>> Duh..and you need chemical analysis to do so... >> >> no you don't - analysis is when you don't know what the input is - >> it's if you're flying blind. > > You scare me sometimes..where do you come up with this stuff? actually, i went to school and studied stuff like this. you should try it - you might learn something. > > You the same dude that recommended the double-blind study a while ago? > >> [and installing gas chromatography instruments on a car is a >> ridiculous concept btw.] > > Hey...at least there would be no *GUESSWORK* involved in when to change > your oil, you silly man. so $150k of chromatography instrumentation is a good idea for a $15k car? you have a serious reality problem. ignoring the fact that people spent millions of dollars researching the algorithms to make computer monitoring work of course. > >>> whats wrong with gas chromatography/mass spectrometry, for example? > >> with a modern car, you /know/ what the input is, so analysis would be >> an incredible expense for almost no practical benefit. > > Well neither is a system that *GUESSES* when I should change my oil. it's not a guess, it's a measure, based on usage. like your gas thank gauge. > > And that, my mentally challenged friend, is the bottom line. > well, /one/ of us is certainly challenged. and i'm not your friend. hump #5 |
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Polfus wrote:
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote > >>> That would require having on-board info in a hard drive that knows the >>> chemical structure, osmolarity, density from the light spectrometer >>> thingy, >>> etc., of each and every oil, >> >> No, it simple means specifying a minimum standard of motor oil--the >> specifications of which are published. > > That helps a consumer grab a quart of oil designed to fit the > performance of the engine in use. > > Still...that does nothing to test the actual condition of the actual > motor oil once it's in the engine. > >> What is it nowadays--API SJ? > > Yes. > >> Read. It's good for you. > > The API SJ designation is a *minimum* standard that oil must meet, but > there is no additional designation for outstanding or superior oils > within the SJ designation. > > And here's something to read, even if it directly or indirectly relates > to this subject: > > http://www.infineum.com/information/...j-sl-2004.html > > http://www.swri.org/4org/d08/GasTests/home.htm > > Polfus > > > > > hump #6 |
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Polfus wrote:
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote > >> In article >, >> "alfred" > wrote: >> >>> My dealer had to give >>> me a paper to show me aprox what to do at certain mileage for this >>> reason >> >> Your dealer doesn't want you to follow the MM, because he makes less >> money than if you follow a paper time/miles schedule. >> >> You got suckered. > > Your comment is *MOOT* if the dude changes the oil himself. > > Think about it, preferably before you start typing. > > Polfus do you drain your gas tank every week, discard what you drain, then buy new gas? you may as well with the above bizarre logic. hump #7 |
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Polfus wrote:
> > "Seth" > wrote > >>> Still...that does nothing to test the actual condition of the actual >>> motor oil once it's in the engine. >> >> Which is why I use the cheap stuff. The car and minder system is >> designed with the lowest common denominator in mind. > > Now you're talking, Seth. > >> So I figure spending anymore than that is not needed as I would end up >> changing the better (more expensive stuff) before it was "fully used >> up" thus wasting the extra money I spent on it. > > Makes complete sense to me, man...especially if you maintain your > behicle where you change oil *before* its worn out. > > Peace, > Polfus > > hump #9 |
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Polfus wrote:
> > "Seth" > wrote > >> Yeah, when the MM says to or 1 year, whichever comes first. I know of >> no other. > > Cool..I thought you had other info bec..well..doesn't matter what I > thought. > >> I have no scientific fact, only that logically it makes sense. It has >> contaminants eating away at it even if just sitting there. > > Oh..sorry..I guess I forgot to say that in my example, its fresh oil on > a brand new car. > > In other words, if I have a brand new car and keep it in a garage and > start in once every 2 weeks and roll it around the neighborhood once or > twice and then park it again, for a year....like maybe 100 miles max in > a year, if even. > > I wonder if its okay for synthetic oil and if it would still, in > reality, require replacement even if a MM says so. > > Is the damn stuff *really* dirty/contaminated/degraded to the point of > warranting replacement, even in this extreme example? > > See what I mean? > > Because if you do, then you could fairly quickly see that there may be > times when the MM is incorrect. > >> Got home today at 199,178. I fear the engine will last well beyond >> the transmission. It's being an '01 V6-AT having not had any problems >> (except for the occasional code (P0980 I think)) it is already on >> borrowed time. > > Heh...didn't worry about how long it would last like you worry about it > now...just 822 miles to go, boyee! > > Peace, > Polfus hump #10 |
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Polfus wrote:
> > "jim beam" > wrote >> >> "shelf life" is literal - it doesn't mean "installed in the vehicle". >> when used, oils pick up the combustion product from the engine - this >> includes acids and other nasties that slowly corrode. if the oil is >> clean and unused, sure, you can just let it stand. but if it's been >> used, like a vehicle that's low mileage, you still need to change the >> oil to remove these contaminants. > > Understood. And thanks for the lack of attitude in your reply... > > Peace, > Polfus hump #11 |
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