Clutch bolts and locktite

On 07/29/2018 02:33 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On 28 Jul 2018 23:50:18 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> Yup. I've got the shop manuals for everything but the pickup. Some parts
>> are good, some not so good. Then there are the five pages of specialized
>> tools that you absolutely need which somehow I've never needed.
>
>
> Hehheh ... that's a good point. The Bentleys are filled with that crap.
>

Fortunately, Bentleys have never been on my menu. My fling with British
sports cars was enough. Damn Whitworth and all his descendants.

On 07/29/2018 02:33 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> Once, decades ago, I was doing the pitman arm, idler arm, and tie rod ends
> for a Dodge Dart of the 70's vintage, where, it was winter so I had to ride
> my motorcycle in the snow to get the parts, and, they gave me the wrong
> tie-rod ends.

With age comes wisdom... One winter when the pickup was acting up I
bought a used Geo figuring I'd deal with it in the spring. The Geo
turned out to be a durable little ride. Its only problem was it was sort
of cactus green. I drove it down to Arizona and when I went hiking in
the desert I was careful to create a GPS waypoint. It could vanish
completely in a saguaro thicket.

On 29 Jul 2018 13:12:34 GMT, Vic Smith wrote:

> I'll amend that about franchise shops. Tire shops like Firestone, Just Tires, etc. have
> good alignment equipment, or at least should have. My son worked for Just Tires for a few
> years, and now works at an independent shop doing mainly heavy truck suspensions.
> He talks to old mates at Just Tires, and sends me there when I need alignment work, which
> is rare. So far they've done a fine job as far as I can tell.
> I've had 4-5 exhaust systems replaced (family cars) at a local Meineke at fair prices.
> But they screwed up a brake job - left off the e-brake lever on the rear drum.
> It all depends on management and personnel. Just be aware of that, and that a competent
> mech can point you to competent shops. This has always worked for me, when I can't do it
> myself.

Speaking of tires, a neighbor had a catastrophic flat today where she
called me to help but I was at the hospital getting stitches for my arm:
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=5538528tire.jpg>

I couldn't help her - so I gave her my wife's AAA card number where she
impersonated my wife and the tow operator changed the tire for her.
<http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=962599720180729_174631.jpg>

The tow guy said the tire is in great shape treadwise, and he said the tire
is 3 years old based on the serial (3415) and when I asked her to read the
numbers, she said it's a Toyo Eclipse P205/65R15 92T (yes, I know what all
those numbers mean) with markings of CDE3415 and DOTN39L.

She's not the original owner but she has had the car for a year.

Do you know how to complain to the government that this tire should not
have blown out like that? I know she didn't abuse it, where it's on a
typical Japanese sedan but when you see that picture, you'll be amazed.

She said she was going about 80 and the tires were checked just last week
for air pressure, and she immediately pulled over to the side of the road
within ten seconds.

Have you ever filed a complaint with the government for a 3 year old tire?

On 29 Jul 2018 13:56:27 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> Fortunately, Bentleys have never been on my menu. My fling with British
> sports cars was enough. Damn Whitworth and all his descendants.

One good Internet DIY is better than the shop manuals, except for the
torque specs (IMHO).

On 30/7/18 6:56 am, rbowman wrote:
> On 07/29/2018 02:33 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>> On 28 Jul 2018 23:50:18 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> Yup. I've got the shop manuals for everything but the pickup. Some parts
>>> are good, some not so good. Then there are the five pages of specialized
>>> tools that you absolutely need which somehow I've never needed.
>>
>>
>> Hehheh ... that's a good point. The Bentleys are filled with that crap.
>>
>
> Fortunately, Bentleys have never been on my menu. My fling with British
> sports cars was enough. Damn Whitworth and all his descendants.

Another one who had 3 or 4 completely different toolkits in the dark
ages. I had full sets of Whitworth, BS, AF and Metric spanners and
sockets for all the different types of cars and trucks I used to work on.

--

Xeno

"The best way to make a fire with two sticks is to make sure one of them
is a match."
-- Will Rogers

On 30/7/18 3:50 am, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 7:04:54 PM UTC-10, Vic Smith wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 03:01:59 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder > wrote:
>>
>>> On 28 Jul 2018 16:08:57 GMT, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>>> You should record all this long saga to a dvd, and give it to your great
>>>> grandchildren.
>>>
>>> What I really love to do, for posterity, is write tutorials.
>>> I just posted the nascent tutorial to one of your other posts.
>>> Take a look at it, and note two things:
>>> a. I don't skip a single step (not a single bolt)
>>> b. I have pictures of everything
>>>
>>> What I'd *love* to do is rip apart an old car and write the "hanes" manual
>>> where I'd do so much better than does Chilton or the FSM that it wouldn't
>>> be funny.
>>>
>>> Of course, my method works for a "specific" car, so that would be my angle.
>>> A specific model, year, and engine and transmission.
>>>
>>> Do you think there would be a market for such a car-specific (completely
>>> unlike Hanes/Chilton/FSM) perfect no-step-missed DIY as I write?
>>
>> Nah, no market for it. The manufacturer has shop manuals for sale.
>> I've had them for my last 4 cars. They can be costly, but I've managed to buy used ones on
>> Ebay. I think the most expensive was about 45 bucks, but my cars were 10 years old when I
>> bought them.
>> But they can lead you down the wrong road. For instance, the procedure to replace the
>> motor mounts on my '97 Lumina looked way too complicated and costly.
>> I found a simple procedure on Youtube, and did it that way.
>
> I used one of those big Chilton multi-year/model manuals to change the timing belts on a Subaru. It was simple enough except they left out a step where you turn the crankshaft 360 degrees after installing one belt. This meant that one cam was 180 degrees out of phase with the other cam. It also meant that your engine wasn't going to start. That was a very bad mistake.
>
Yes, a very bad omission. I have seen similarly disastrous omissions and
errors in those aftermarket manuals. Flywheel and clutch bolt torque
settings switched for instance. That was an obvious error to a trained
mechanic but wouldn't have been for an amateur.

--

Xeno

"The best way to make a fire with two sticks is to make sure one of them
is a match."
-- Will Rogers

On 07/29/2018 10:36 PM, Xeno wrote:
> On 30/7/18 6:56 am, rbowman wrote:
>> On 07/29/2018 02:33 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>> On 28 Jul 2018 23:50:18 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup. I've got the shop manuals for everything but the pickup. Some
>>>> parts
>>>> are good, some not so good. Then there are the five pages of
>>>> specialized
>>>> tools that you absolutely need which somehow I've never needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hehheh ... that's a good point. The Bentleys are filled with that crap.
>>>
>>
>> Fortunately, Bentleys have never been on my menu. My fling with
>> British sports cars was enough. Damn Whitworth and all his descendants.
>
> Another one who had 3 or 4 completely different toolkits in the dark
> ages. I had full sets of Whitworth, BS, AF and Metric spanners and
> sockets for all the different types of cars and trucks I used to work on.
>

I've got a Japanese car and two Japanese bikes and they are metric, end
of story. My 'made in America' F150 and Harley throw a little metric in
the mix to make sure you have two sets of tools.

The one advantage of metric is communicating to the spousal unit when
you're under the car and need another wrench. Women grasp whole numbers
a lot better than 'get me the goddam 11/32!"

On 30/7/18 3:56 pm, rbowman wrote:
> On 07/29/2018 10:36 PM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 30/7/18 6:56 am, rbowman wrote:
>>> On 07/29/2018 02:33 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>>> On 28 Jul 2018 23:50:18 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yup. I've got the shop manuals for everything but the pickup. Some
>>>>> parts
>>>>> are good, some not so good. Then there are the five pages of
>>>>> specialized
>>>>> tools that you absolutely need which somehow I've never needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hehheh ... that's a good point. The Bentleys are filled with that crap.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fortunately, Bentleys have never been on my menu. My fling with
>>> British sports cars was enough. Damn Whitworth and all his descendants.
>>
>> Another one who had 3 or 4 completely different toolkits in the dark
>> ages.* I had full sets of Whitworth, BS, AF and Metric spanners and
>> sockets for all the different types of cars and trucks I used to work on.
>>
>
> I've got a Japanese car and two Japanese bikes and they are metric, end
> of story. My 'made in America' F150 and Harley throw a little metric in
> the mix to make sure you have two sets of tools.

I still have a significant quantity of Whitworth and BS stuff. Obviously
not used in a very very long time. The US is, in the automotive industry
at least, metricating so you will see significantly more metric in your
'made in America' vehicles in the future.
>
> The one advantage of metric is communicating to the spousal unit when
> you're under the car and need another wrench. Women grasp whole numbers
> a lot better than 'get me the goddam 11/32!"

I keep my spousal unit away when I work on cars so your issue doesn't
affect me. That said, since we metricated here decades ago, many of the
younger tradespeople - male and female - have no idea of imperial
fractions either.


--

Xeno

"The best way to make a fire with two sticks is to make sure one of them
is a match."
-- Will Rogers

Arlen Holder > wrote:
> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=962599720180729_174631.jpg>
>
>The tow guy said the tire is in great shape treadwise, and he said the tire
>is 3 years old based on the serial (3415) and when I asked her to read the
>numbers, she said it's a Toyo Eclipse P205/65R15 92T (yes, I know what all
>those numbers mean) with markings of CDE3415 and DOTN39L.
>
>She's not the original owner but she has had the car for a year.
>
>Do you know how to complain to the government that this tire should not
>have blown out like that? I know she didn't abuse it, where it's on a
>typical Japanese sedan but when you see that picture, you'll be amazed.

This is exactly how tires blow out when they are underinflated. You say that
she checked the pressure last week, but that doesn't mean there wasn't a nail
or sidewall puncture causing the tire to lose pressure slowly.

>She said she was going about 80 and the tires were checked just last week
>for air pressure, and she immediately pulled over to the side of the road
>within ten seconds.
>
>Have you ever filed a complaint with the government for a 3 year old tire?

Tires are wear items. You replace them now and then, you check them often,
and sometimes they just fail. The government is not likely to be able to do
much about that.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On 30/7/18 11:57 pm, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Arlen Holder > wrote:
>> <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=962599720180729_174631.jpg>
>>
>> The tow guy said the tire is in great shape treadwise, and he said the tire
>> is 3 years old based on the serial (3415) and when I asked her to read the
>> numbers, she said it's a Toyo Eclipse P205/65R15 92T (yes, I know what all
>> those numbers mean) with markings of CDE3415 and DOTN39L.
>>
>> She's not the original owner but she has had the car for a year.
>>
>> Do you know how to complain to the government that this tire should not
>> have blown out like that? I know she didn't abuse it, where it's on a
>> typical Japanese sedan but when you see that picture, you'll be amazed.
>
> This is exactly how tires blow out when they are underinflated. You say that

Definitely! That tyre shows distinct sidewall degradation that didn't
happen overnight or in a week.

> she checked the pressure last week, but that doesn't mean there wasn't a nail
> or sidewall puncture causing the tire to lose pressure slowly.

Or that it had been run underinflated for months prior to being
correctly inflated the week prior thereby prematurely weakening the
sidewalls and setting it up for failure.
>
>> She said she was going about 80 and the tires were checked just last week
>> for air pressure, and she immediately pulled over to the side of the road
>> within ten seconds.
>>
>> Have you ever filed a complaint with the government for a 3 year old tire?
>
> Tires are wear items. You replace them now and then, you check them often,
> and sometimes they just fail. The government is not likely to be able to do
> much about that.
> --scott
>
>


--

Xeno

"The best way to make a fire with two sticks is to make sure one of them
is a match."
-- Will Rogers