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  #61  
Old June 10th 05, 03:11 AM
Bob Ward
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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:26:47 GMT, Tom Quackenbush
> wrote:

>Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Tom Quackenbush wrote:
>>
>>> What situation were you considering where a seatbelt would help the
>>> driver maintain control of the car?

>>
>>The situations that meet this description are so numerous that to list
>>them would be unduly onerous. You, uh, really have trouble coming up with
>>any such situations?

>
> I can think of some , yes. I mentioned the most obvious to me,
>that you snipped:
>
> " I'm talking about a situation in which the car is struck hard
>enough to cause the airbag to deploy, but not hard enough to disable
>the driver. "
>
> Apparently Bob was considering a situation where the seatbelt would
>help the driver maintain control, but in which the airbag would not
>deploy. I was curious as to what he had in mind, so I asked him.
>
> If you know what scenario Bob had in mind, then, by all means,
>share.
>


Your scenario would bae a pretty rare one - the airbags are designed
to deploy and deflate in about a tenth of a second. By the time they
deploy under normal circumstances, it's because the car has stopped
abruptly, so there is no controllable momentum.


>R,
>Tom Q.
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>


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  #62  
Old June 10th 05, 03:47 AM
Rod Speed
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Some gutless ****wit welfare bludger desperately cowering behind
bicycle > desperately attempted
to bull**** its way out of its predicament in message
oups.com...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

No wonder the best it has ever been able to
manage is to bludge off the welfare system.


  #63  
Old June 10th 05, 03:48 AM
Rod Speed
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Some gutless ****wit welfare bludger desperately cowering behind
bicycle > desperately attempted
to bull**** its way out of its predicament in message
oups.com...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

No wonder the best it has ever been able to
manage is to bludge off the welfare system.


  #64  
Old June 10th 05, 03:48 AM
Rod Speed
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Some gutless ****wit welfare bludger desperately cowering behind
bicycle > desperately attempted
to bull**** its way out of its predicament in message
oups.com...
and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.

No wonder the best it has ever been able to
manage is to bludge off the welfare system.


  #65  
Old June 10th 05, 03:53 AM
William Souden
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Rod Speed wrote:
> Some gutless ****wit welfare bludger desperately cowering behind
> bicycle > desperately attempted
> to bull**** its way out of its predicament in message
> oups.com...
> and fooled absolutely no one at all. As always.
>
> No wonder the best it has ever been able to
> manage is to bludge off the welfare system.
>
>

I mostly lurk here but it does seem apparent that every time someone
produces facts that show Mr. Speed to be wrong he replies in the above
manner indicating that behind the veneer of arrogance there is little
substance.
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Old June 10th 05, 04:01 AM
bicycle
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Rod Slow wrote:
> bicycle wrote:
> >
> > George Grapman wrote:
> >
> >>bicycle wrote:
> >>
> >>>>****wit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Aussie trailer-trash rears it's ugly head once again. The limited
> >>>vocabulary that results from a limited education. Anyhow, I was right,
> >>>you were wrong. Again.
> >>>
> >>
> >> When baby Rod cries "bull****", "****wit" "salesfool" or "reams of
> >>****" it is his way of saying:
> >>
> >> My dear sir, lacking any facts to contrary, I have to admit that you
> >>are correct and I am wrong"
> >>

> >
> >
> > Googling "Rod Speed ****wit" just in this group gives 622 hits/posts.
> >
> > Through the years welfare trash like Rod have had to scrape by with
> > their severely limited vocabulary. It's just one more handicap that
> > prevents such bludgers from gainful employment, with the exception of
> > being a fluffer for the Australian Gay Porn Industry. I heard he's paid
> > by the "load".
> >

>
> A google search of his name an "puerile" gets 4,340 hits but
> "peurile" shows another 154 hits before he even figured out that his
> initial spelling was wrong.
> Please quote this in your reply as bowel boy has killfiled me.


Here it is. I'll bet he hasn't killfiled you. He reads every post you
make but cannot respond due to "claiming" you were killfiled. It really
gets his goat to have to remain silent. Wouldn't want anyone to know he
was full of **** about that too.

  #67  
Old June 10th 05, 05:37 AM
Rod Speed
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Some ****wit claiming to be
William Souden > wrote in message
m...
just the puerile **** thats always pouring from the back of it.


  #68  
Old June 10th 05, 05:48 AM
Rod Slow
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Rod Speed wrote:
> Some ****wit claiming to be
> William Souden > wrote in message
> m...
> just the puerile **** thats always pouring from the back of it.
>
>



He politely asked why you never , ever can admit to being wrong.
Cheer up. that next welfare check comes on Monday when you can become
semi-coherent.
  #69  
Old June 10th 05, 04:38 PM
Matthew Russotto
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In article >,
Bob Ward > wrote:
>
>Ths is what happens when an airbag deploys in a crash:
>
>In the 15 to 20 milliseconds after impact, the crash sensors and
>control unit determine the severity of the collision and decide
>whether to deploy the airbag.
>At about 25 milliseconds, the airbag splits its covering pad in
>predetermined places and begins to inflate rapidly.
>At about 45 milliseconds, the bag is fully inflated while the
>seatbelted occupant is still moving forward.
>At around 60 milliseconds, the occupant contact the airbag which
>immediately begins to deflate via vent holes in the back.
>Up to 100 milliseconds, the occupant continues to sink deeply into the
>airbag which cushions the head and chest while it is deflating.
>In less than a blink of an eye, the crash has occurred, the airbag has
>deployed, done its job and now lies deflated in front of you.


And your cabin is filled with a mixture of talc, nitrogen, silicates,
and unscavenged lye.
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and together we will rule the Galaxy as father and son!"

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Old June 11th 05, 04:43 PM
Victor Smith
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On 9 Jun 2005 14:09:18 -0700, "bicycle" > wrote:

>
>
>Rod Speed wrote:
>> bicycle > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> > max wrote
>> >> Bob Ward > wrote:

>>
>> >>> If you are not restrained in your seat, you are not in control of
>> >>> your car, so the safety of other drivers is indeed compromised.

>>
>> >> bull****.

>>
>> > This paramedic disagrees,
>> > <http://www.alpharubicon.com/bovstuff/seatbelttexan.htm>

>>
>> No he doesnt. He's talking about the extent of
>> injurys that result with a crash, not IN CONTROL.
>>
>> > Why do you think it's BS?

>>
>> Because it is. Novel concept eh ?

>
>Novel concept to so many doesn't make it novel anymore, ******.
>
>Conn.DOT:
>In an emergency, safety belts keep you behind the wheel and ready to
>react if necessary. Being in control can help you keep minor crashes
>minor or avoid them altogether.
>
>Alberta Infrastructure and Transportation:
>"Seat belts hold you securely in place. If you are a driver, this helps
>you control the car in a crash situation."
>
>Ontario Ministry of Transportation:
>"A seat belt keeps the driver behind the wheel and in control in a
>collision."
>
>Colorado DMV:
>In a car crash, wearing a seat belt keeps you from being thrown from
>the car and helps you keep control of the car.
>
>
>California DMV:
>If you were struck from the side, the impact could push you back and
>forth across the seat. Belts and straps keep you in a better position
>to control the car.
>
>US Army, Division of Safety:
>"One of the best reasons to wear a seat belt is to keep you in the
>driver's seat where you can control the car."
>
>Utah Safety Council:
>"Safety belts:
>Distribute the impact of a crash over the stronger parts of your body,
>Keep you in your seat and inside the car,
>Let you keep control of the car."
>
>Roadtrip America:
>"Belts help keep you in your place, in control, and better able to
>avoid a crash. "
>
>US Navy, Naval Safety Center:
>"Seat belts keep you behind the wheel and in control of the vehicle."
>
>And on and on...


Yep. Doesn't even have to be a collision. A buddy of mine took a
corner hard, hit a bump, and was suddenly sitting on my lap on the
passenger side. Still don't know how he kept a hand on the wheel and
pulled himself back and kept us from crashing. '58 Chevy with bench
seat. No belts of course. And any human being ('roos excluded) who
has done serious driving *without* seat belts has sensed input to the
steering wheel that had nothing to do with controlling the car, but
only with maintaining his driving position in the seat.

--Vic
 




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