Speed, Red-Light Cameras Increase Crashes, Deaths

Fatalities Rise in Speed Camera Hotspots:
http://www.theregister.com/2005/07/1...o_deaths_link/

Colorado red-light cameras increase crashes, but lengthened yellow lights
reduce them:
http://www.clickpress.com/releases/D...762005cp.shtml


UK says "Hold on a sec...Before we install more, do these things actually
work?"
http://www.theregister.com/2005/07/1...ras_suspended/

UK to monitor who, where, when on all roads:
http://www.theregister.com/2005/11/1...ment_database/

Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
> Colorado red-light cameras increase crashes, but lengthened yellow lights
> reduce them:
> http://www.clickpress.com/releases/D...762005cp.shtml

"The red-light cameras just don't work as advertised. Thousands of
innocent drivers are getting tickets they do not deserve," said Scott.
"The red light cameras actually lead to an increase in rear-end
accidents as drivers slam on their brakes to avoid citations."

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Just as i figured. The problem is the tailgaters who assume the person
in front will run the red light so they can too. We need to stop
coddling TGers. You rear-end somebody and you should at least lose your
license for a year even if no one was injured.

In article ich.edu>, Daniel J. Stern wrote:

> UK to monitor who, where, when on all roads:
> http://www.theregister.com/2005/11/1...ment_database/

You beat me to it. I was just going to post that. And once again we see a
government turning reasonable behavior into criminal behavior:

"The new offence of keeping a vehicle without insurance criminalises the
previously harmless pastime of keeping an uninsured vehicle in a garage
and not driving it, and comes on top of the previous breakthrough of
criminalising keeping an untaxed vehicle in a garage and not driving it.
The latter was dealt with by requiring owners to register the vehicle as
off the road via a Statutory Off-Road Notification. The administrative
convenience of turning not doing anything wrong into a crime will allow
the Government to issue fixed penalty notices for failing to renew
insurance on time, while there's also now a fixed penalty for late
renewal of tax discs (previously, you could pay in arrears). In both
cases the penalties are clearly only going to hit people who've
previously been registered with the system. Dealing with the large
numbers of entirely unregistered and uninsured vehicles will require
real-time alerts and pursuit, and these vehicles will have to be
differentiated from the many foreign registered cars on the UK's roads.
As it will be a lot easier and cheaper to fine the law-abiding but
forgetful than it will be to deal with the hardline serial offenders, we
think we can guess which way this one will go."

Not to mention the logging of the movement of citizens.

The control freaks are not going to give up until there is a viewscreen
in every room of every home.

Traffic cameras got disconnected here in North Carolina after
lawsuits over whether school districts - not cities and contractors -
were legally entitled to all the fine money pursuant to state
constitution! By that time, they had racked up fiascos like ticketing
a man driving in a police-escorted funeral procession in nearby
Greensboro.

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Daniel J. Stern wrote:

One closer to home
<http://www.theregister.com/2005/09/22/traffic_cops_bar_stakeout/>

> Colorado red-light cameras increase crashes, but lengthened yellow
> lights reduce them:
> http://www.clickpress.com/releases/D...762005cp.shtml

It's too bad that guy keeps harping on about the photoblocker spray.

wrote:
> Traffic cameras got disconnected here in North Carolina after
> lawsuits over whether school districts - not cities and contractors -
> were legally entitled to all the fine money pursuant to state
> constitution! By that time, they had racked up fiascos like ticketing
> a man driving in a police-escorted funeral procession in nearby
> Greensboro.

If we really want to defuse this revenue issue we should replace fines
for RLR with DL suspensions.

Arif Khokar > wrote in
:

> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
> One closer to home
><http://www.theregister.com/2005/09/22/traffic_cops_bar_stakeout/>
>
>> Colorado red-light cameras increase crashes, but lengthened yellow
>> lights reduce them:
>> http://www.clickpress.com/releases/D...762005cp.shtml
>
> It's too bad that guy keeps harping on about the photoblocker spray.
>

Yeah,nothing like SPOILERS giving away the good secrets so the product is
made illegal to use.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

In article .com>,
says...

>Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>>
>> Colorado red-light cameras increase crashes, but lengthened yellow lights
>> reduce them:
>> http://www.clickpress.com/releases/D...762005cp.shtml
>"The red-light cameras just don't work as advertised. Thousands of
>innocent drivers are getting tickets they do not deserve," said Scott.
>"The red light cameras actually lead to an increase in rear-end
>accidents as drivers slam on their brakes to avoid citations."
>------------
>Just as i figured. The problem is the tailgaters who assume the person
>in front will run the red light so they can too. We need to stop
>coddling TGers. You rear-end somebody and you should at least lose your
>license for a year even if no one was injured.

You were making sense till you came up with the ridiculous penalty. First
time offenders should be required to take a safety course, at their expense.
Repeat offenders should get harsher penalties.
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Alex

In article .com>,
says...

>If we really want to defuse this revenue issue we should replace fines
>for RLR with DL suspensions.

No, that would be stupid, but par for you. What should really happen is that
all money from the cameras goes to fixing the problem at that particular
intersection. It's a great idea because eventually the cameras will become
unecessary.
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Alex

In article >, says...
>
>
>Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
>One closer to home
><http://www.theregister.com/2005/09/22/traffic_cops_bar_stakeout/>
>
>> Colorado red-light cameras increase crashes, but lengthened yellow
>> lights reduce them:
>> http://www.clickpress.com/releases/D...762005cp.shtml
>
>It's too bad that guy keeps harping on about the photoblocker spray.

I noticed that too.
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Alex