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Old May 23rd 05, 04:42 PM
ls_dot1
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Default Enable Caravan Daytime Running Lights (DRL's) Option

Hi,

I have '00 & '05 US model Grand Caravans. The '00 is US built while the '05
is Canadian buit. I would like to enable the facory DRL's using
off-the-shelf Chrysler parts - if possible. As a last resort, I would
consider an aftermarket retrofit kit although I would be concerned about any
negative interaction with the vehicles BCM's.

Has anyone been sucessful with this?

Thanks!


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Old May 23rd 05, 05:45 PM
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On Mon, 23 May 2005, ls_dot1 wrote:

> I have '00 & '05 US model Grand Caravans. The '00 is US built while the
> '05 is Canadian buit. I would like to enable the facory DRL's using
> off-the-shelf Chrysler parts - if possible. As a last resort, I would
> consider an aftermarket retrofit kit although I would be concerned about
> any negative interaction with the vehicles BCM's. Has anyone been
> sucessful with this?


The '00 uses turn signal DRLs; you can either get the Canada-spec turn
signal flasher module from your dealer or you can use the module from
www.webelectricproducts.com . The '05 uses high-beam DRLs which are less
effective (much narrower angle of visibility); you'd do better simply to
buy the webelectricproducts.com module and install it on the '05 -- take
you about 30 minutes or so if you're not a klutz.

In both cases, stop by your local GM dealer and pick up four front
park/turn/DRL bulbs for an '04 Saturn Ion. These are type number 5702KA,
an ultralong-life design, and will solve the early/rapid burnout problem
you'd have if you left the stock 3157/4157 bulbs with DRLs enabled.
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Old May 23rd 05, 11:49 PM
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Do you know if an 2003 uses the turn signal or high beam for the drl ?

thanks

"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
n.umich.edu...
> On Mon, 23 May 2005, ls_dot1 wrote:
>
>> I have '00 & '05 US model Grand Caravans. The '00 is US built while the
>> '05 is Canadian buit. I would like to enable the facory DRL's using
>> off-the-shelf Chrysler parts - if possible. As a last resort, I would
>> consider an aftermarket retrofit kit although I would be concerned about
>> any negative interaction with the vehicles BCM's. Has anyone been
>> sucessful with this?

>
> The '00 uses turn signal DRLs; you can either get the Canada-spec turn
> signal flasher module from your dealer or you can use the module from
> www.webelectricproducts.com . The '05 uses high-beam DRLs which are less
> effective (much narrower angle of visibility); you'd do better simply to
> buy the webelectricproducts.com module and install it on the '05 -- take
> you about 30 minutes or so if you're not a klutz.
>
> In both cases, stop by your local GM dealer and pick up four front
> park/turn/DRL bulbs for an '04 Saturn Ion. These are type number 5702KA,
> an ultralong-life design, and will solve the early/rapid burnout problem
> you'd have if you left the stock 3157/4157 bulbs with DRLs enabled.




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Old May 24th 05, 01:17 AM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Mon, 23 May 2005, ncs wrote:

> Do you know if an 2003 uses the turn signal or high beam for the drl ?


Factory DRLs on '03 minivan = poorly-implemented high beams.

DS (incidentally, there's no adverse interaction with the BCM by
installing the aftermarket turn signal DRL module referred to below).


> >> I have '00 & '05 US model Grand Caravans. The '00 is US built while the
> >> '05 is Canadian buit. I would like to enable the facory DRL's using
> >> off-the-shelf Chrysler parts - if possible. As a last resort, I would
> >> consider an aftermarket retrofit kit although I would be concerned about
> >> any negative interaction with the vehicles BCM's. Has anyone been
> >> sucessful with this?

> >
> > The '00 uses turn signal DRLs; you can either get the Canada-spec turn
> > signal flasher module from your dealer or you can use the module from
> > www.webelectricproducts.com . The '05 uses high-beam DRLs which are less
> > effective (much narrower angle of visibility); you'd do better simply to
> > buy the webelectricproducts.com module and install it on the '05 -- take
> > you about 30 minutes or so if you're not a klutz.
> >
> > In both cases, stop by your local GM dealer and pick up four front
> > park/turn/DRL bulbs for an '04 Saturn Ion. These are type number 5702KA,
> > an ultralong-life design, and will solve the early/rapid burnout problem
> > you'd have if you left the stock 3157/4157 bulbs with DRLs enabled.

>
>
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Old May 24th 05, 02:12 AM
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The '00 seems easy enough, but what if I wanted to pursue the factory high
beam method on my '05? Can parts be bought off the Chrysler shelf as well?
I read somewhere that the BCM must be re-programed to indicate a FLEET
vehicle.

Thank you for your input!


"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 May 2005, ls_dot1 wrote:
>
> > I have '00 & '05 US model Grand Caravans. The '00 is US built while the
> > '05 is Canadian buit. I would like to enable the facory DRL's using
> > off-the-shelf Chrysler parts - if possible. As a last resort, I would
> > consider an aftermarket retrofit kit although I would be concerned about
> > any negative interaction with the vehicles BCM's. Has anyone been
> > sucessful with this?

>
> The '00 uses turn signal DRLs; you can either get the Canada-spec turn
> signal flasher module from your dealer or you can use the module from
> www.webelectricproducts.com . The '05 uses high-beam DRLs which are less
> effective (much narrower angle of visibility); you'd do better simply to
> buy the webelectricproducts.com module and install it on the '05 -- take
> you about 30 minutes or so if you're not a klutz.
>
> In both cases, stop by your local GM dealer and pick up four front
> park/turn/DRL bulbs for an '04 Saturn Ion. These are type number 5702KA,
> an ultralong-life design, and will solve the early/rapid burnout problem
> you'd have if you left the stock 3157/4157 bulbs with DRLs enabled.



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Old May 24th 05, 02:16 AM
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the 00 needs a relay under the hood in the pdc and the 05 requires the use of a
scan tool to turn it on

ls_dot1 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have '00 & '05 US model Grand Caravans. The '00 is US built while the '05
> is Canadian buit. I would like to enable the facory DRL's using
> off-the-shelf Chrysler parts - if possible. As a last resort, I would
> consider an aftermarket retrofit kit although I would be concerned about any
> negative interaction with the vehicles BCM's.
>
> Has anyone been sucessful with this?
>
> Thanks!


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Old May 24th 05, 02:24 AM
ls_dot1
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Does the scan tool have to be the factory DRB, or can a generic scanner
(Snap-On for example) be used?

Thanks!


"mic canic" > wrote in message
...
> the 00 needs a relay under the hood in the pdc and the 05 requires the use

of a
> scan tool to turn it on
>
> ls_dot1 wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have '00 & '05 US model Grand Caravans. The '00 is US built while the

'05
> > is Canadian buit. I would like to enable the facory DRL's using
> > off-the-shelf Chrysler parts - if possible. As a last resort, I would
> > consider an aftermarket retrofit kit although I would be concerned about

any
> > negative interaction with the vehicles BCM's.
> >
> > Has anyone been sucessful with this?
> >
> > Thanks!

>



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Old May 24th 05, 03:17 AM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Mon, 23 May 2005, ls_dot1 wrote:

> The '00 seems easy enough, but what if I wanted to pursue the factory high
> beam method on my '05? Can parts be bought off the Chrysler shelf as well?


No, it's a matter of BCM programming. Can't figure out why you'd want to
go to more trouble to have less-effective DRLs.

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Old May 24th 05, 03:41 AM
ls_dot1
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Dan,

It's not that I disagree with you, but..... I've already put out an inquiry
to a Canadian Dodge dealer for the relay on the '00. However, since the '05
is brand new, I have to be concerned about doing anything to upset the
factory warranty. I should add that I'm well qulaified to install the
aftermarket item you suggested, but would prefer the less intrusive option
for the time being. Do you know if a generic scanner can be used, or must
Chrysler's DRB be used? Also (if you know), will a dealer program the BCM
for a fee, or will I be told it voids the warranty or is contrary to their
agreement with the factory.

Mike

"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 May 2005, ls_dot1 wrote:
>
> > The '00 seems easy enough, but what if I wanted to pursue the factory

high
> > beam method on my '05? Can parts be bought off the Chrysler shelf as

well?
>
> No, it's a matter of BCM programming. Can't figure out why you'd want to
> go to more trouble to have less-effective DRLs.
>



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Old May 24th 05, 04:17 AM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Mon, 23 May 2005, ls_dot1 wrote:

> It's not that I disagree with you, but..... I've already put out an
> inquiry to a Canadian Dodge dealer for the relay on the '00.


No need; you could've got it through the US dealer network.

> since the '05 is brand new, I have to be concerned about doing anything
> to upset the factory warranty.


A valid enough concern -- the BCM, however, won't know or care the
aftermarket module is there. Some of the aftermarket modules *are* rather
invasive to the electrical system; that's one reason why I recommended
this particular one.

One thing I've never tried is installing the '96-'00 turn signal module
w/DRL functionality on an '01-up van. It might slot right in.

> Do you know if a generic scanner can be used, or must Chrysler's DRB be
> used?


Believe this is a Chrysler-only function.

> Also (if you know), will a dealer program the BCM for a fee, or will I
> be told it voids the warranty or is contrary to their agreement with the
> factory.


Dealer attitudes vary -- check with yours. But be sure to ask exactly what
they'll do; some dealers will just add an aftermarket DRL module, in which
case you are better off doing it yourself.
 




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