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Is GTR the next GPL?
Seems to be quite a buzz about it. I haven't had much fun with any
racing sims since about 2001. |
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Dont insult GPL like that.GPL was revolutionary while GTR is just hype.
RBR is the new GPL "john henry bonham" > wrote in message .. . > Seems to be quite a buzz about it. I haven't had much fun with any racing > sims since about 2001. |
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This is about the physics engine, right?
Guess I'll leave that to who's driven these cars IRL. I have brought RBR - but again, however good this rally sim is it still feels real lonely out there without the wheel to wheel competition The physics do seem to me, very good in GTR with one reservation. However, only time will tell if it has a chance to live up to the classic that is GPL. I've also looked at the files and can see no way for modding like GPL which has helped keep it alive for so long. And what is it about open wheel racing; I just love seeing the wheels and suspension at work and it seriously helps with the placement of the car on the track. The real sad thing now is that GPLs graphics are looking really tardy and dated being Directx7 and seeing the georgeous SPA in GTR and the rally circuits in RBR complete with bump mapping (especially in RBR) its hard not to be impressed with these latest sim additions. Alan "Dan" > wrote in message ... > Dont insult GPL like that.GPL was revolutionary while GTR is just hype. > RBR is the new GPL > "john henry bonham" > wrote in message > .. . >> Seems to be quite a buzz about it. I haven't had much fun with any racing >> sims since about 2001. > > |
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"Dan" > wrote in message >...
> Dont insult GPL like that.GPL was revolutionary while GTR is just hype. > RBR is the new GPL > "john henry bonham" > wrote in message > .. . > > Seems to be quite a buzz about it. I haven't had much fun with any racing > > sims since about 2001. RBR feels like a racing sim demo to me. Great graphics and physics, but nobody to race against (like the 1st GTR demo). I know this is how rally racing is supposed to be, but I find it a bit... lonely. Anyway, no sense in comparing RBR to GTR, as it's two completely different types of "racing". If you prefer racing against the clock, RBR can't be beat (at the moment). I prefer racing against other cars on the circuit, so I am eagerly awaiting GTR! -Pat |
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Ahhhhhhhh what a loaded question, which will produce predictable
results in this group... Damn bloody GPL luddites, hahahha... There will never be another GPL, hell I even wonder if GPL could stand up to GPL, hahahha.. Goes the old story, GPL simmer gets a chance to drive a full spec modern F1 car, he takes it out for 20 laps (insert your favorite track here) upon the conclusion of this test drive, he exits the car and says "that was pretty cool, but it ain't no GPL" Even with all the glaring problems in GPL looking like monsterous cyclops that Sinbad had to battle, people still insist GPL is king.. Even though the folks who were instrumental in creating and beta testing GPL exclaim in no uncertain terms that the technology has moved on and there are more accurate simulations out there, still many insist GPL is king.. And for them yes GPL is king, doesn't make GPL the most technically proficient sim out there its SIMply (no pun intended) what they dig.... Perhaps if Dave K. makes GPL2 some will finally change their tune, though I'm sure they'll test it out, do some laps, come back into the pits and exclaim (dont' make me say it !!) hahhhahhaha Its no ........ PS: now excuse me while I run some laps in Pole Position... GPL: its no pole position now see you made me coin a new phrase , hahah On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:27:59 +0100, john henry bonham > wrote: >Seems to be quite a buzz about it. I haven't had much fun with any >racing sims since about 2001. |
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So in RBR you get the best competition from trees or zebras, as there
are no other cars to race against.... hehe. sorry I've heard that RBR is very good but since in GPL your racing against 19 other cars and in RBR its the clock or whatever animal you run into , how can you compare... On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:46:24 +1000, "Dan" > wrote: >Dont insult GPL like that.GPL was revolutionary while GTR is just hype. >RBR is the new GPL >"john henry bonham" > wrote in message . .. >> Seems to be quite a buzz about it. I haven't had much fun with any racing >> sims since about 2001. > > |
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Simple answer is.......... no !
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"john henry bonham" wrote...
> Seems to be quite a buzz about it. I haven't had much > fun with any racing sims since about 2001. As a sim, GPL has been surpassed many times over. As a concept I think we need to wait and see if either rFactor or Keammer's next offering (can't think of the working title right now) will take off in a big way. GTR, if it delivers on it's online promise, could attrackt a lot of GPL simmers to it, but I'm quite sure it won't replace GPL entirely. Partly because GTR will inherit some issues from earlier ISI games (having to manually edit files to configer one's controller correctly, e.g.) and partly because driving an accurate simulation of modern racing cars will require a lot of discipline from the drivers. Part of GPL's lasting appeal, I think, is that because of the nature of the cars and the limitations/inaccuracies of the game, you can, in a driving sense, push the boat out incredibly far wihtout getting punished for it, making it simply a lot of fun to play. Jan. =--- |
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"Rich8" > wrote in message
.. . > Ahhhhhhhh what a loaded question, which will produce predictable > results in this group... Damn bloody GPL luddites, hahahha... There > will never be another GPL, hell I even wonder if GPL could stand up to > GPL, hahahha..<snip> The point is whether GTR will be to it's predecessors and peers what GPL was, and the answer is almost certainly no. GPL, despite it's now-acknowledged shortcomings, was so far above what had come before it that it basically redefined the genre. Others have come along and done bits and pieces better for sure, but no overall game/sim since has raised the bar as much in one go. Which is natural; the closer you get to true realism, the less you CAN advance in subsequent steps. ISI (and their partners, i.e. SimBin) have indeed come a long way, but no one has yet matched Papy for putting a total package together; physics, graphics, interface, multiplayer, replay capability, controller support, etc. I'd say DK's the best bet to surpass that benchmark, or maybe... (you know who ;-)) But whoever manages it, the day can't come soon enough - I need a good reason to build a new PC! SB |
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At times, oh so many times, the beauty of RBR is just that, you dont need
nobody. That means no cheates, no wreckers, no bul**** jaw-flapping keyboard jockies... There have been nights where you were "free" to race, but there was nobody around, (most of the time they all were all in that latest of 300th consecutive Dega-Tona servers)... Sure I got the "Other 2 games for online racing, but Damnit I love RBR. Rich8 enlightened us with: > So in RBR you get the best competition from trees or zebras, as there > are no other cars to race against.... hehe. sorry I've heard that RBR > is very good but since in GPL your racing against 19 other cars and in > RBR its the clock or whatever animal you run into , how can you > compare... > > > > > > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:46:24 +1000, "Dan" > wrote: > >> Dont insult GPL like that.GPL was revolutionary while GTR is just >> hype. RBR is the new GPL >> "john henry bonham" > wrote in message >> .. . >>> Seems to be quite a buzz about it. I haven't had much fun with any >>> racing sims since about 2001. |
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