1987 Power antenae problem

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:48:07 -0700, Jon Smith >
wrote:

>I have had three antenna failures and not once could I get the plastic
>drive cable to come out. Mine broke off inside where you could not get
>it out. I did one where I ended up taking the antenna apart to get the
>cable out and then installed the new cable. But, all three times I
>ended up taking the antenna out...

Yeah, it's easier to do it right the first time, and the repair will
hold up for quite a while if done right.

-Wayne

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"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)

"Wayne Johnson" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:25:16 -0500, X-Eliminator
> > wrote:
>
> >I have done it myself you moron, and I do have the instructions that
> >came with the mast kit for my 1990 as well as the factory service
> >manual.
>
> I'm glad you included the "you moron" comment; it shows what kind of
> person you are.
>
> Your tendency to harass members of this newsgroup shows how useless
> your comments are. You have serious emotional problems.
>
> Wayne "See a psychiatrist soon" Johnson

Put him in your ig list, Wayne. He's a one-trick pony.

FWIW, in many cases replacing the antenna mast only does not solve the
problem. A piece of the plastic strip with the gear teeth can break off and
stay inside of the antenna motor, and one is left with no recourse but to
either disassemble the motor and get the broken section out of there or,
much more simply, just buy a new motor and mast kit off of eBay and install
the whole shebang. So, his advice was quite possibly not correct, despite
the volume and arrogance with which it was delivered.

AJM
'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
(who tried a mast only, which had no effect, and ended up replacing the
motor after all)

"Wayne Johnson" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:25:16 -0500, X-Eliminator
> > wrote:
>
> >I have done it myself you moron, and I do have the instructions that
> >came with the mast kit for my 1990 as well as the factory service
> >manual.
>
> I'm glad you included the "you moron" comment; it shows what kind of
> person you are.
>
> Your tendency to harass members of this newsgroup shows how useless
> your comments are. You have serious emotional problems.
>
> Wayne "See a psychiatrist soon" Johnson

Put him in your ig list, Wayne. He's a one-trick pony.

FWIW, in many cases replacing the antenna mast only does not solve the
problem. A piece of the plastic strip with the gear teeth can break off and
stay inside of the antenna motor, and one is left with no recourse but to
either disassemble the motor and get the broken section out of there or,
much more simply, just buy a new motor and mast kit off of eBay and install
the whole shebang. So, his advice was quite possibly not correct, despite
the volume and arrogance with which it was delivered.

AJM
'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
(who tried a mast only, which had no effect, and ended up replacing the
motor after all)

Yes, it's quite easy to pull the antenna mast & plastic drive strip up
out of the antenna housing without removing the antenna housing
(especially if you have an 1984-91) That's why GM sells the "mast kit"
separately from the complete antenna assembly. Maybe next time you
will actually read small details in the links that you post, as welll
as the manual (before you post them) -- learn how to "actually" read
before you attempt to learn how to write. Have fun with your die cast.

(Shut-up Dan)
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:09:01 GMT, (Wayne Johnson)
wrote:
>
>Yeah, it's easier to do it right the first time, and the repair will
>hold up for quite a while if done right.
>
>-Wayne
>
>*********************************************** *
>
>"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
>- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)

Yes, it's quite easy to pull the antenna mast & plastic drive strip up
out of the antenna housing without removing the antenna housing
(especially if you have an 1984-91) That's why GM sells the "mast kit"
separately from the complete antenna assembly. Maybe next time you
will actually read small details in the links that you post, as welll
as the manual (before you post them) -- learn how to "actually" read
before you attempt to learn how to write. Have fun with your die cast.

(Shut-up Dan)
================================================== =
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:09:01 GMT, (Wayne Johnson)
wrote:
>
>Yeah, it's easier to do it right the first time, and the repair will
>hold up for quite a while if done right.
>
>-Wayne
>
>*********************************************** *
>
>"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
>- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)

CardsFan wrote:
> "Wayne Johnson" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:25:16 -0500, X-Eliminator
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have done it myself you moron, and I do have the instructions that
>>>came with the mast kit for my 1990 as well as the factory service
>>>manual.
>>
>>I'm glad you included the "you moron" comment; it shows what kind of
>>person you are.
>>
>>Your tendency to harass members of this newsgroup shows how useless
>>your comments are. You have serious emotional problems.
>>
>>Wayne "See a psychiatrist soon" Johnson
>
>
> Put him in your ig list, Wayne. He's a one-trick pony.
>
> FWIW, in many cases replacing the antenna mast only does not solve the
> problem. A piece of the plastic strip with the gear teeth can break off and
> stay inside of the antenna motor, and one is left with no recourse but to
> either disassemble the motor and get the broken section out of there or,
> much more simply, just buy a new motor and mast kit off of eBay and install
> the whole shebang. So, his advice was quite possibly not correct, despite
> the volume and arrogance with which it was delivered.
>
> AJM
> '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
> (who tried a mast only, which had no effect, and ended up replacing the
> motor after all)
>
>
The "quikie" mast replacement procedure works fine when the antenna
itself is vandalized, bent or corroded. Nylon cable failure is a
different matter. Like X-E/AJM & Wayne say, that failure is usually in
the last few inches of the cable--so that the motor can't eject the
cable when you unscrew the bushing and the upper antenna stop. In those
cases, you gotta open the case and remove the "left-overs."

Had my third cable failure on the original ('89) antenna this summer.
This time, along with the mast-kit I bought an inexpensive (Harada)
knock-off antenna. Installed the knockoff while the original waits on
the workbench to get opened, cleaned, lubed, painted & remasted. (hmmm,
sounds like old age procrastination is setting in??) The Harada antenna
works OK but is black insted of chrome and doesn't retract down into the
fender as nicely as the stock antenna.

As far as I know, all of the '89 and earlier antenna cases have screws
and can be opened. I've seen here that later 'vettes have antennas from
multiple vendors and some cases are riveted shut.

--
HTH
Mike E.

CardsFan wrote:
> "Wayne Johnson" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:25:16 -0500, X-Eliminator
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have done it myself you moron, and I do have the instructions that
>>>came with the mast kit for my 1990 as well as the factory service
>>>manual.
>>
>>I'm glad you included the "you moron" comment; it shows what kind of
>>person you are.
>>
>>Your tendency to harass members of this newsgroup shows how useless
>>your comments are. You have serious emotional problems.
>>
>>Wayne "See a psychiatrist soon" Johnson
>
>
> Put him in your ig list, Wayne. He's a one-trick pony.
>
> FWIW, in many cases replacing the antenna mast only does not solve the
> problem. A piece of the plastic strip with the gear teeth can break off and
> stay inside of the antenna motor, and one is left with no recourse but to
> either disassemble the motor and get the broken section out of there or,
> much more simply, just buy a new motor and mast kit off of eBay and install
> the whole shebang. So, his advice was quite possibly not correct, despite
> the volume and arrogance with which it was delivered.
>
> AJM
> '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
> (who tried a mast only, which had no effect, and ended up replacing the
> motor after all)
>
>
The "quikie" mast replacement procedure works fine when the antenna
itself is vandalized, bent or corroded. Nylon cable failure is a
different matter. Like X-E/AJM & Wayne say, that failure is usually in
the last few inches of the cable--so that the motor can't eject the
cable when you unscrew the bushing and the upper antenna stop. In those
cases, you gotta open the case and remove the "left-overs."

Had my third cable failure on the original ('89) antenna this summer.
This time, along with the mast-kit I bought an inexpensive (Harada)
knock-off antenna. Installed the knockoff while the original waits on
the workbench to get opened, cleaned, lubed, painted & remasted. (hmmm,
sounds like old age procrastination is setting in??) The Harada antenna
works OK but is black insted of chrome and doesn't retract down into the
fender as nicely as the stock antenna.

As far as I know, all of the '89 and earlier antenna cases have screws
and can be opened. I've seen here that later 'vettes have antennas from
multiple vendors and some cases are riveted shut.

--
HTH
Mike E.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:01:52 -0500, "CardsFan" > wrote:

>"Wayne Johnson" > wrote in message
...

>> Wayne "See a psychiatrist soon" Johnson
>
>Put him in your ig list, Wayne. He's a one-trick pony.

I hear you.

>FWIW, in many cases replacing the antenna mast only does not solve the
>problem. A piece of the plastic strip with the gear teeth can break off and
>stay inside of the antenna motor, and one is left with no recourse but to
>either disassemble the motor and get the broken section out of there or,
>much more simply, just buy a new motor and mast kit off of eBay and install
>the whole shebang.

That's my next project...after getting the tranny rebuilt. Failed on
me this morning. 65 mile tow - thank goodness for AAA, but still blew
my day. Why should I cry - puppy has 216,000 miles!

>So, his advice was quite possibly not correct, despite
>the volume and arrogance with which it was delivered.

On a Vette, I always suggest going whole hog, instead of patch and
fix.

>AJM
>'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
>(who tried a mast only, which had no effect, and ended up replacing the
>motor after all)

That's what I've heard from several other guys, too.

Wayne "If you're gonna do it, do it right" Johnson

************************************************

"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:01:52 -0500, "CardsFan" > wrote:

>"Wayne Johnson" > wrote in message
...

>> Wayne "See a psychiatrist soon" Johnson
>
>Put him in your ig list, Wayne. He's a one-trick pony.

I hear you.

>FWIW, in many cases replacing the antenna mast only does not solve the
>problem. A piece of the plastic strip with the gear teeth can break off and
>stay inside of the antenna motor, and one is left with no recourse but to
>either disassemble the motor and get the broken section out of there or,
>much more simply, just buy a new motor and mast kit off of eBay and install
>the whole shebang.

That's my next project...after getting the tranny rebuilt. Failed on
me this morning. 65 mile tow - thank goodness for AAA, but still blew
my day. Why should I cry - puppy has 216,000 miles!

>So, his advice was quite possibly not correct, despite
>the volume and arrogance with which it was delivered.

On a Vette, I always suggest going whole hog, instead of patch and
fix.

>AJM
>'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
>(who tried a mast only, which had no effect, and ended up replacing the
>motor after all)

That's what I've heard from several other guys, too.

Wayne "If you're gonna do it, do it right" Johnson

************************************************

"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:52:53 -0700, Mike Ellison
> wrote:


>The "quikie" mast replacement procedure works fine when the antenna
>itself is vandalized, bent or corroded. Nylon cable failure is a
>different matter. Like X-E/AJM & Wayne say, that failure is usually in
>the last few inches of the cable--so that the motor can't eject the
>cable when you unscrew the bushing and the upper antenna stop. In those
>cases, you gotta open the case and remove the "left-overs."

Mine won't even retract - it's totally busted.

>Had my third cable failure on the original ('89) antenna this summer.
>This time, along with the mast-kit I bought an inexpensive (Harada)
>knock-off antenna. Installed the knockoff while the original waits on
>the workbench to get opened, cleaned, lubed, painted & remasted. (hmmm,
>sounds like old age procrastination is setting in??) The Harada antenna
>works OK but is black insted of chrome and doesn't retract down into the
>fender as nicely as the stock antenna.

I've seen the Harada units out there for around $70, but I've seen the
repair kits from around $30. The difference is the elbow grease, I
guess - and the Harada antennas don't look quite as sturdy. Never
used one, though.

>As far as I know, all of the '89 and earlier antenna cases have screws
>and can be opened. I've seen here that later 'vettes have antennas from
>multiple vendors and some cases are riveted shut.
>
>--
>HTH
>Mike E.

I'd rather go OEM so I know who to cuss at when it fails.

Wayne "It doesn't DOany good to cuss, but it FEELS better" Johnson

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"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)