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97 accord stick-no start?
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Battery is great, alternator kicks out 14.5. Problem is unrelated to temperature or duration of inactivity. Can happen first thing in the morning, or after a drive during the middle of the day. May not happen at all. This is a 97 accord. In 2004 it had (they tell me!) a new ignition switch replaced as a recall. Anyhow -- sometimes when I go to start it, all I get is the solenoid click. No turnover at all. But if I repeatedly flap the key to Off then start, again and again quickly, the starter turns over and the engine starts. Now .. I ask you .. is this the ignition switch or the starter solenoid???? nick |
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97 accord stick-no start?
nick wrote:
> Updates: > > Battery is great, alternator kicks out 14.5. Problem > is unrelated to temperature or duration of inactivity. > Can happen first thing in the morning, or after a > drive during the middle of the day. May not happen > at all. > > This is a 97 accord. In 2004 it had (they tell me!) a > new ignition switch replaced as a recall. > > Anyhow -- sometimes when I go to start it, all I get > is the solenoid click. No turnover at all. > > But if I repeatedly flap the key to Off then start, > again and again quickly, the starter turns over and > the engine starts. > > Now .. I ask you .. is this the ignition switch or > the starter solenoid???? > > nick ------------------------- It's the contacts on the solenoid. They're replacable per the link I already provided. You don't have a no-start problem . . you have a no-turn problem. Nothing to do with the ignition switch since you always here it click at the starter. 'Curly' |
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motsco_ wrote: > nick wrote: > >> Updates: >> >> Battery is great, alternator kicks out 14.5. Problem >> is unrelated to temperature or duration of inactivity. >> Can happen first thing in the morning, or after a >> drive during the middle of the day. May not happen >> at all. >> >> This is a 97 accord. In 2004 it had (they tell me!) a >> new ignition switch replaced as a recall. >> >> Anyhow -- sometimes when I go to start it, all I get >> is the solenoid click. No turnover at all. >> >> But if I repeatedly flap the key to Off then start, >> again and again quickly, the starter turns over and >> the engine starts. >> >> Now .. I ask you .. is this the ignition switch or >> the starter solenoid???? >> >> nick > > > ------------------------- > > It's the contacts on the solenoid. They're replacable per the link I > already provided. You don't have a no-start problem . . you have a > no-turn problem. Nothing to do with the ignition switch since you always > here it click at the starter. > > 'Curly' Yep... I had an ol' '76 Civic that would do the same thing. I wacked the starter with a jack handle for several months before having the starter rebuilt.. JT (I ain't cheeep, Ah's frugal!) |
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Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>> It's the contacts on the solenoid. They're replacable per the link I >> already provided. You don't have a no-start problem . . you have a >> no-turn problem. Nothing to do with the ignition switch since you >> always here it click at the starter. >> >> 'Curly' > > Yep... I had an ol' '76 Civic that would do the same thing. I wacked > the starter with a jack handle for several months before having the > starter rebuilt.. > > JT ______________ .. . . . . Here's the link again. It involves a _HATCHET_ not a jack handle. Same methodology: http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=20252& Enjoy. 'Curly' |
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motsco_ wrote: > Grumpy AuContraire wrote: > >>> It's the contacts on the solenoid. They're replacable per the link I >>> already provided. You don't have a no-start problem . . you have a >>> no-turn problem. Nothing to do with the ignition switch since you >>> always here it click at the starter. >>> >>> 'Curly' >> >> >> Yep... I had an ol' '76 Civic that would do the same thing. I wacked >> the starter with a jack handle for several months before having the >> starter rebuilt.. >> >> JT > > ______________ > > . . . . . Here's the link again. It involves a _HATCHET_ not a jack > handle. Same methodology: > > http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=20252& > > Enjoy. > > 'Curly' Shades of Lizzy Borden?? <G> JT |
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97 accord stick-no start?
OK, used the hatchet trick and am convinced. I will
order a $25 solenoid kit. When I complete the order online will they eventually ask me the model/year of the car? Also, how difficult is it to get at the bottom bolt on the starter?? |
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nick wrote:
> OK, used the hatchet trick and am convinced. I will > order a $25 solenoid kit. When I complete the order > online will they eventually ask me the model/year of > the car? > > Also, how difficult is it to get at the bottom bolt > on the starter?? ------------------------- If you need the hatchet, it's usually because the solenoid isn't getting ground through the brushes / armature. Read the thread again. I have edited it for clarity. If yours clicks, but doesn't crank it is more likely the solenoid contacts mentioned by the member 'Carbuff2'. 'Curly' |
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97 accord stick-no start?
How difficult is it to get at the bottom bolt
on the starter?? I do a lot of wrenching on our old MG, but all the bolts and nuts are pretty simple to get to. How's the 97 Accord 4 cyl starter to get off?? Yes, mine clicks. Loud. If I repeatedly flick the key from OFF to III and back eventually the solenoid contacts come together and it starts. So I am planning to order the Nippondenso starter SOLENOID contact repair kit WITH plunger. Izzat OK?? |
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nick wrote:
> How difficult is it to get at the bottom bolt > on the starter?? I do a lot of wrenching on our > old MG, but all the bolts and nuts are pretty simple > to get to. How's the 97 Accord 4 cyl starter to get > off?? > > Yes, mine clicks. Loud. If I repeatedly flick the key > from OFF to III and back eventually the solenoid contacts > come together and it starts. So I am planning to > order the Nippondenso starter SOLENOID contact repair > kit WITH plunger. Izzat OK?? --------------------- Yes, you've got it! Mine needs to come out soon because I've got the noisy gears / bushing that go EEeewww when I let go of the key.I can't say about the difficulty cuz I've never done one on a Honda. Look in there with a mirror and a good flashlight. Parts diagrams are at www.slhondaparts.com but they rarely help for what you need to know. Search www.tegger.com and see if there's anything about starter removal. 'Curly' |
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Hey Curly,
Starter is out -- howcum Honda uses two (2) different size bolts to mount the starter?? Contacts in Solenoid are truly fried. Plunger bad too. Trying to order kit online now. Many thanks nick |
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