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Old February 13th 07, 05:24 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
robert
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Default 305 chev engine starting problem

I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.

The engine started draging after shutting it down and starting it back up?

I replace the batt. & 2 starters because the engine drags after warming up.

I had it in the shop and they made a heat shield for the starter but nothing
helps?

Once it at normal operating temp. and I turn it off it drags so much you
wouldn't think it would crank but it does?

Elec windows drag too!

Now I thinking it taiming problem but what would temp have to do with
timing?

I know it's something simple but it's got me!

Thanks





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Old February 13th 07, 03:10 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
Mike Romain
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Default 305 chev engine starting problem

You could easily be describing a bad connection in one of the main power
cables. The sneaky one is the battery to engine block connection and
the engine to body one.

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robert wrote:
> I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.
>
> The engine started draging after shutting it down and starting it back up?
>
> I replace the batt. & 2 starters because the engine drags after warming up.
>
> I had it in the shop and they made a heat shield for the starter but nothing
> helps?
>
> Once it at normal operating temp. and I turn it off it drags so much you
> wouldn't think it would crank but it does?
>
> Elec windows drag too!
>
> Now I thinking it taiming problem but what would temp have to do with
> timing?
>
> I know it's something simple but it's got me!
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>

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Old February 13th 07, 08:09 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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Default 305 chev engine starting problem

On Feb 13, 12:24 am, "robert" > wrote:
> I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.
>
> The engine started draging after shutting it down and starting it back up?
>
> I replace the batt. & 2 starters because the engine drags after warming up.
>
> I had it in the shop and they made a heat shield for the starter but nothing
> helps?
>
> Once it at normal operating temp. and I turn it off it drags so much you
> wouldn't think it would crank but it does?
>
> Elec windows drag too!
>
> Now I thinking it taiming problem but what would temp have to do with
> timing?
>
> I know it's something simple but it's got me!
>
> Thanks


It sounds like your timing is too far advanced. I don't know why
temperature matters but I know it does. Try retarding the timing a
little bit. Good luck

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Old February 14th 07, 03:52 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
sdlomi2[_2_]
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Default 305 chev engine starting problem


> wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Feb 13, 12:24 am, "robert" > wrote:
>> I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.
>>
>> The engine started draging after shutting it down and starting it back
>> up?
>>
>> I replace the batt. & 2 starters because the engine drags after warming
>> up.
>>
>> I had it in the shop and they made a heat shield for the starter but
>> nothing
>> helps?
>>
>> Once it at normal operating temp. and I turn it off it drags so much you
>> wouldn't think it would crank but it does?
>>
>> Elec windows drag too!
>>
>> Now I thinking it taiming problem but what would temp have to do with
>> timing?
>>
>> I know it's something simple but it's got me!
>>
>> Thanks

>
> It sounds like your timing is too far advanced. I don't know why
> temperature matters but I know it does. Try retarding the timing a
> little bit. Good luck
>

Hey, right on gxsr! He asked what temp had to do with timing--shoulda
asked if both temp AND timing could make engine harder to start: yes!
Advanced timing makes engine fire too early and "kick back" on piston's
movement = hard to start, or "starter drag". Heat swells pistons--remember
that piston "slap", a noise due to excessive piston-to-cylinder walls
clearance? It is quieter when hot and is due to piston's expanding &
reducing this clearance after it heats. This same swelling could cause
"starter drag". HTH, s


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Old February 14th 07, 05:00 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
Bob[_4_]
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Default 305 chev engine starting problem


"sdlomi2" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> On Feb 13, 12:24 am, "robert" > wrote:
>>> I have a jasper engine 50.000 miles in my 1967 nova ll.
>>>
>>> The engine started draging after shutting it down and starting it back
>>> up?
>>>
>>> I replace the batt. & 2 starters because the engine drags after warming
>>> up.
>>>
>>> I had it in the shop and they made a heat shield for the starter but
>>> nothing
>>> helps?
>>>
>>> Once it at normal operating temp. and I turn it off it drags so much you
>>> wouldn't think it would crank but it does?
>>>
>>> Elec windows drag too!
>>>
>>> Now I thinking it taiming problem but what would temp have to do with
>>> timing?
>>>
>>> I know it's something simple but it's got me!
>>>
>>> Thanks

>>
>> It sounds like your timing is too far advanced. I don't know why
>> temperature matters but I know it does. Try retarding the timing a
>> little bit. Good luck
>>

> Hey, right on gxsr! He asked what temp had to do with timing--shoulda
> asked if both temp AND timing could make engine harder to start: yes!
> Advanced timing makes engine fire too early and "kick back" on piston's
> movement = hard to start, or "starter drag".


That's right, the easy way to check this is to disable the ignition system
and see iff it still cranks hard.

> Heat swells pistons--remember that piston "slap", a noise due to excessive
> piston-to-cylinder walls clearance? It is quieter when hot and is due to
> piston's expanding & reducing this clearance after it heats. This same
> swelling could cause "starter drag". HTH, s


An engine with too tight of a piston to cylinder clearance will have far
worse problems than slow cranking when hot.




 




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