US stuck in reverse on fuel economy

> wrote in message
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> BBC?,,, we are from Mars too,if you believe in BBC Have you heard or
> read lately about any new refineries going to be built in America? There
> is going to be built a new coal to liquid fuel refinery/plant in
> Southeast U.S.A.
> cuhulin

BBC has its problems just like some of the American broadcasting systems
do.
But, BBC wouldnt have said it had not some group brought this idea forward
as
a possible solution to the perceived problem.

You notice that Bush has signed an agreement with Brasil to pursue ethanol
production. Brasil now satisfies 40% of its motor fuel requirements with
ethanol
from sugar cane. And it doesn't require adding extra carbon to the
atmosphere.

I know the people from the corn belt might snort up a response to this, but
there
is plenty of land here in the USA where sugar cane is a very successful
crop.

Why do you think that Brasil would choose sugar cane over corn, when they
have
millions of acres and a range of climate so that they could raise any crop
they want???

With respect to news agencies, several years ago when I first moved to
Europe,
I had a hard time finding an objective news service. BBC was propaganda,
Radio
Moscow was worse,and the Voice of America was just as bad. Finally, I
starting
getting my news from Radio Tirana in Albania...Those guys disliked and
distrusted
EVERYBODY, but the news was pretty straight.

Won't be long till Spring time,and then Summer time.Mark my words,the
price of gasoline and diesel fuel will go up.A guy on the SPIKE tv
channel right now is showing and telling all about how to make your own
bio fuel.That coal to liquid fuel plant will be in Mississippi.
cuhulin

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>
> "Don Stauffer in Minnesota" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >
> > I'd say it is not just the US that is going backwards- the whole
> > industry is! Not even the small cars from Japan and other Asian
> > countries are getting the milage they used to.
>
> I have a feeling that cars for the US market are somewhat different from
> cars marketed in other countries. What we get here may not be indicative
> of what Asian cars are doing other places.
>
> May be wrong, but just a comment.

Its true. When I bought my Landcruiser, I looked into buying a diesel
model. They are quite popular in Europe where fuel economy is important,
but they are not available here.

Also, some models available with a flex fuel (ethanol > 10%) option are
not available here either.

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>
> I don't have to buy gasoline for my vehicle? I guess I can sell my
> vehicle and call a taxi cab when I need to go to the food store or
> anywhere else around here I might need to go,or ride a bicycle,or walk.I
> am not interested in not doing my own driving,my own vehicle,not yet
> anyway.
> cuhulin

Most people can cut their fuel consumption substantially by changing
driving habits. You do not need to park your car and leave it.
Remember, the last arab oil embargo created the 55 mpg speed limit.
Just cutting cruising speed on highways by five percent will help a
lot. Around town, do not join the "who can get the the next red light
first" contest. Coast and play the lights. If you drive stick shift,
short shift. Combine trips. Stay off brakes- do you left foot
brake? Make sure you do not use brake as a footrest. If you raise
your fuel economy 15%, it is like getting a 15% discount on gas.

On Mar 7, 6:43 am, wrote:
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17344368/

After reading some of the comments posted, I think it's more about how
we transfer energy to motion. Changing our dependency on the
combustion engine is the big step. Getting rid of it in the near
future, next to impossible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel-electric

We are using diesel-electric / gas-electric almost everywhere in
boats, trains and large trucks. Don't see why car builders can't come
up with a smart solution.

Ramsay

Actually, the whole industry moving backwards is inaccurate. There is
a HUGE movement of overunity machines, pulse magnet motors, and
several other motors using concepts by Nikola Tesla. If you don't
know who he is, you're not alone. His story is the most amazing in
world history. You owe it to yourselves to look at, or read a
biography of his life and then ask the question, why does nobody know
who this guy is. He brought about the electrical revolution at the
turn of the 20th century, and in death, he'll do it again around the
corner of this century.
You may have heard about the Lotus Tesla. That is the new electric
sports car that does 0-60 in under 4 seconds. That car was named
after Nikola Tesla to pay tribute to the greatest man in recent
history. His concepts and ideas are being revitalized into a
revolution that will rewrite physics (that process has already
started, the term electricity is already being retooled as far too
vague). You can also search the web for some of these Tesla spawned
words and phrases like:

Back EMF
Perendev motor
Bedini motor (sometimes spelled bodini)
Overunity
Free Energy

Study Tesla, understand his actual achievements (not theories like
Einstein, but actual magnificent feats and inventions that we still
use today) and then see where he was headed before he was basically
shut down by misinformed popular opinion. Juxtaposed with the
technologies being brought forth by several of his pupils, it's not
hard to see how the possibilities of what's being created right now.
If you miss the step of studying Tesla before you go and see some of
these devices working, you may think they are impossible. If you look
at Tesla's history, his 111 US patents, 500 Worldwide patents,
(inventions such as: AC in which the world receive electricity today,
AC Induction motors, and transformers, still used today, harnessed the
energy of Niagra Falls (his statue is in front of the largest power
plant and 9 of the 10 patents posted on the door are his), X-Ray (MRI
are measured in Tesla Units), Fluorescent Lights, Neon Lighting, The
Coil (like the one in your car), the alternator of course (AC is
Alternating Current - hence where the term Alternator came from),
wireless transmission (including Radio & Television frequencies and
how to tune into them). Don't you think that's a pretty amazing
resume for a guy who's almost unknown. Study Tesla and you will see
that this stuff was only the beginning of the incredible things he had
planned to do before he ran out of funding. He was labeled by the
press as a man who lost his mind toward his mid life, largely due to
public announcements that he was receiving signals from outer space
while developing the radio technology. The damage was done, people
thought he was a loon, only now of course we know that planets radiate
a signal that we receive on a daily basis. (not aliens, but planets
surging with energy like the ones throughout our solar system, sending
a frequency signal). It's the most fascinating story ever, and you
have only been told a snippet. Search for the news, don't let big
business feed it to you. A decent film biography on Tesla called,
"Tesla: the genious who lit the world," can be rented on Netflix.
There are better biographies, but that's the only one I know how to
reference, some others can be seen on YouTube and downloaded by
bittorrent. (try torrentscan.com)

Once you've learned about him, and his future of his possibilities,
tell everyone you know. The word needs to be out.

"Roger Blake" > wrote in message
...
> In article > ,
> wrote:
> > There is no longer any credible challenge to the problems that
increasing
> > levels of
> > greenhouse gases are causing.
>
> Utter and complete bilge.

Not bilge at all.

"Roger Blake" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> wrote:
> > Not bilge at all.
>
> Total bilge. Or utter bunk, if you prefer. Take your pick.

I choose neither of the above...Nor am I a "creation scientist" or "flat
earther".

On Mar 13, 8:28 am, wrote:

>
> We are using diesel-electric / gas-electric almost everywhere in
> boats, trains and large trucks. Don't see why car builders can't come
> up with a smart solution.
>
> Ramsay

They call them "hybrids." While a diesel-electric need not have
batteries, some battery equipped (true hybrids} locomotives are
appearing now.

The best way to improve your car's fuel economy is to adjust the nut
behind the steering wheel.

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