new 'stang - Italian transmissions?

>Subject: new 'stang - Italian transmissions?
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>Date: 12/1/04 9:00 PM Eastern Standard


>This may be OT - but I went on a test drive in a new Freestyle. The
>automatic in that car-truck-thing doesn't shift! It constantly adjusts
>the gear ratio - it was astounding. I was in the back seat. I wish I
>was driving.They call it a CVT - Continously Variable Transmission.


The Subaru Justy (ouch! it hurt just to type that!) used one several years ago.


>I wonder if it will be reliable?
>

My understanding is they are much more reliable now that they are using a
stronger belt. I also understand that the CVT is limited to lower torque
engines by design.

John

On 12/1/2004 6:00 PM, wrote:

> This may be OT - but I went on a test drive in a new Freestyle.

Amazing how station wagons are starting to regain their popularity,
isn't it? About time, too; this SUV fad is getting old.

> The
> automatic in that car-truck-thing doesn't shift! It constantly adjusts
> the gear ratio - it was astounding. I was in the back seat. I wish I
> was driving.They call it a CVT - Continously Variable Transmission.
>
> I wonder if it will be reliable?

Hopefully. The CVT is a wonderful concept, and done right it is great
in practice as well. It allows the engine to maintain it's peak
performance (torque or emissions) at all speeds.

http://cvt.com.sapo.pt/toc_en.htm has a lot of info.


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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 04:23:15 GMT, Paul > wrote:

>at 01 Dec 2004, ] wrote in
:
>
>
>> This may be OT - but I went on a test drive in a new Freestyle. The
>> automatic in that car-truck-thing doesn't shift! It constantly
>> adjusts the gear ratio - it was astounding. I was in the back seat.
>> I wish I was driving.They call it a CVT - Continously Variable
>> Transmission.
>>
>> I wonder if it will be reliable?
>
>It oughta be. been around for decades. It's based on the van Doorne
>Automobiel Fabrieken (DAF) 'Variomatic' used in the DAF brand cars.

Hey I remember those ! My grandfather used to own one. The damn thing
always broke down.
The transmissions weren't very reliable if I recall correctly.

>DAF cars got taken over by Volvo/Mitsubishi about 10 years back which
>explains how Ford got hold of it. They actually offer it in Europe for
>at least the last 5 years in their smaller cars. DAF trucks is now
>owned by Paccar, also known for it's Kenworth and Freightliner brands.
>Anybody see the new line of freightliner panel vans? Those are based
>on a line DAF makes. :-)
>
>The old variomatic used rubber belts which needed replacement
>regularly as they tended to stretch. The CVT uses a metal kind of
>belt/chain design which is far more durable/reliable. I don't know if
>the CVT does it, but the old variomatic used to be able to go as fast
>in reverse as it did in forward. Which is why in Holland they have/had
>races with people driving their DAF cars in reverse on the racetrack.
>Quite popular as well.

hmm, I remember those as well.

>
>How do I know? DAF's factory is in the town I used to live in. For
>those who want to see what the cars looked like, they have the classic
>model and some others on http://www.dafmuseum.nl/

yeah. I used to live in the frogland as well.

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It would seem a heavy duty CVT would be the ultimate drag racing box. Pop the
clutch, transmission controller holds RPM at the horsepower peak and your done.
Assuming the mechanicals are efficient

Take a look at this November 30 story (linked from Blue Oval News):
http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosins...utos-19733.htm

Ford is going to have engines and transmissions built in Slovakia...


-Bill J.
95 GT

"yahoo xxxchangeit" > wrote in message
...
>
> where have I been.....when did this start?
>
> the '05 'stangs I've been drooling on have "County of Origin"
> stickers......County of Origin is Italy for the automatic trans - both
> 6s and GTs.
>
> WTF? has this been going on for a while? is it a Ford unit (what the
> heck does FoMoCo built in Italy) or an outsourced unit?
>
> Italy? ITALY?
>
> JC
>

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 04:23:15 +0000, Paul rearranged some electrons to
form:

> at 01 Dec 2004, ] wrote in
> :
>
>
>> This may be OT -
<snip>

> DAF trucks is now owned by Paccar,
> also known for it's Kenworth and Freightliner brands. Anybody see the new
> line of freightliner panel vans? Those are based on a line DAF makes. :-)
>

Actually, D/C owns Freightliner...
www.freightliner.com

Paccar owns KW and Peterbuilt.


David M (dmacchiarolo)
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at 04 Dec 2004, David M ] wrote in
newsan.2004.12.04.17.25.47.701408@sled351:


> Actually, D/C owns Freightliner...
> www.freightliner.com
> Paccar owns KW and Peterbuilt.

Oops! my bad, your right.

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