air bag injuries due to propellant chemicals

anyone else have problems like this?

linda

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, linda wrote:

> anyone else have problems like this?

Yes, of course. Sodium Azide and its combustion products are injurious to
human beings. Why do you ask?

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, linda wrote:

> anyone else have problems like this?

Yes, of course. Sodium Azide and its combustion products are injurious to
human beings. Why do you ask?

i have recently found out that air bags cause respiratory problems with
their chemicals. the safety and auto industry knows this, but have
determined the benefits outweigh the risks. i am wanting to find out
how i can help, what i can do as an individual. i have read awful
stories of people who have been injured physically due to impact with
the airbags (brain damage, death, impairments of limbs and burns on
faces, and eyes that have actually had the air bag wrap around them and
cause tremendous injuries). the auto safety and auto industry admit
these types of injuries (risk vs benefit)... But being a "little person"
with limited resources, limited knowledge, i want to make these large
companies admit the respiratory injuries that these chemicals cause and
compensate those who have these types of injuries. i do not like the
statements made that the benefits of the air bags outweigh the risks...
ask a person who has been injured if they think it is worth it... i read
on the internet that the warning labels for chemical exposure is on the
underside of the already deployed air bag. i guess you can get away
with anything these days, if you put a warning label on anything, even
if you can't find it...

i am sorry, i have to get down off my soap box now and send this
message, so that i can await your reply...

thanks, linda

Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, linda wrote:
>
>
>>anyone else have problems like this?
>
>
> Yes, of course. Sodium Azide and its combustion products are injurious to
> human beings. Why do you ask?

i have recently found out that air bags cause respiratory problems with
their chemicals. the safety and auto industry knows this, but have
determined the benefits outweigh the risks. i am wanting to find out
how i can help, what i can do as an individual. i have read awful
stories of people who have been injured physically due to impact with
the airbags (brain damage, death, impairments of limbs and burns on
faces, and eyes that have actually had the air bag wrap around them and
cause tremendous injuries). the auto safety and auto industry admit
these types of injuries (risk vs benefit)... But being a "little person"
with limited resources, limited knowledge, i want to make these large
companies admit the respiratory injuries that these chemicals cause and
compensate those who have these types of injuries. i do not like the
statements made that the benefits of the air bags outweigh the risks...
ask a person who has been injured if they think it is worth it... i read
on the internet that the warning labels for chemical exposure is on the
underside of the already deployed air bag. i guess you can get away
with anything these days, if you put a warning label on anything, even
if you can't find it...

i am sorry, i have to get down off my soap box now and send this
message, so that i can await your reply...

thanks, linda

Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, linda wrote:
>
>
>>anyone else have problems like this?
>
>
> Yes, of course. Sodium Azide and its combustion products are injurious to
> human beings. Why do you ask?

linda wrote:

> i have recently found out that air bags cause respiratory problems with
> their chemicals. the safety and auto industry knows this, but have
> determined the benefits outweigh the risks. i am wanting to find out
> how i can help, what i can do as an individual. i have read awful
> stories of people who have been injured physically due to impact with
> the airbags (brain damage, death, impairments of limbs and burns on
> faces, and eyes that have actually had the air bag wrap around them and
> cause tremendous injuries). the auto safety and auto industry admit
> these types of injuries (risk vs benefit)... But being a "little person"
> with limited resources, limited knowledge, i want to make these large
> companies admit the respiratory injuries that these chemicals cause and
> compensate those who have these types of injuries. i do not like the
> statements made that the benefits of the air bags outweigh the risks...
> ask a person who has been injured if they think it is worth it... i read
> on the internet that the warning labels for chemical exposure is on the
> underside of the already deployed air bag. i guess you can get away
> with anything these days, if you put a warning label on anything, even
> if you can't find it...
>
> i am sorry, i have to get down off my soap box now and send this
> message, so that i can await your reply...
>
> thanks, linda
>


Hell, yes! And seat belts crack ribs. And that damned roof cracks your
skull when you roll over three times and the roof caves in. Lets just
have a seat with no doors, shall we. And another thing -- those baby
seats give my kids a sore neck when the ride in them and fall asleep.
I've never been in an accident with my kids in the car! Why should my
kids have to ride in those uncomfortable seats??

Cars are dangerous. Crashing hurts. Crashing at high speed really,
really hurts!!!

Sometimes the cure hurts a few a little bit. But it saves most people
that have to use it.

In the "eyes wrapped in airbag" example, trade "airbag" for "steering
wheel" or "dashboard" and we don't have to worry about your eyes
because it will be closed-casket anyway.

Dan

linda wrote:

> i have recently found out that air bags cause respiratory problems with
> their chemicals. the safety and auto industry knows this, but have
> determined the benefits outweigh the risks. i am wanting to find out
> how i can help, what i can do as an individual. i have read awful
> stories of people who have been injured physically due to impact with
> the airbags (brain damage, death, impairments of limbs and burns on
> faces, and eyes that have actually had the air bag wrap around them and
> cause tremendous injuries). the auto safety and auto industry admit
> these types of injuries (risk vs benefit)... But being a "little person"
> with limited resources, limited knowledge, i want to make these large
> companies admit the respiratory injuries that these chemicals cause and
> compensate those who have these types of injuries. i do not like the
> statements made that the benefits of the air bags outweigh the risks...
> ask a person who has been injured if they think it is worth it... i read
> on the internet that the warning labels for chemical exposure is on the
> underside of the already deployed air bag. i guess you can get away
> with anything these days, if you put a warning label on anything, even
> if you can't find it...
>
> i am sorry, i have to get down off my soap box now and send this
> message, so that i can await your reply...
>
> thanks, linda
>


Hell, yes! And seat belts crack ribs. And that damned roof cracks your
skull when you roll over three times and the roof caves in. Lets just
have a seat with no doors, shall we. And another thing -- those baby
seats give my kids a sore neck when the ride in them and fall asleep.
I've never been in an accident with my kids in the car! Why should my
kids have to ride in those uncomfortable seats??

Cars are dangerous. Crashing hurts. Crashing at high speed really,
really hurts!!!

Sometimes the cure hurts a few a little bit. But it saves most people
that have to use it.

In the "eyes wrapped in airbag" example, trade "airbag" for "steering
wheel" or "dashboard" and we don't have to worry about your eyes
because it will be closed-casket anyway.

Dan

please do not belittle my concern. i understand the problems associated
with getting in to a car.. the guy next to me could have had a bit too
much to drink and crash in to me and my casket will have to be
closed...i am informed about these things you mention, but i am mad as
hell about not being properly informed about the chemical hazards
associated with the deployment of the "life saving" apparatus'.

thanks you for your cute email..
i hope you have a great day...

linda

Dan Gates wrote:
> linda wrote:
>
>> i have recently found out that air bags cause respiratory problems
>> with their chemicals. the safety and auto industry knows this, but
>> have determined the benefits outweigh the risks. i am wanting to find
>> out how i can help, what i can do as an individual. i have read awful
>> stories of people who have been injured physically due to impact with
>> the airbags (brain damage, death, impairments of limbs and burns on
>> faces, and eyes that have actually had the air bag wrap around them
>> and cause tremendous injuries). the auto safety and auto industry
>> admit these types of injuries (risk vs benefit)... But being a "little
>> person" with limited resources, limited knowledge, i want to make
>> these large companies admit the respiratory injuries that these
>> chemicals cause and compensate those who have these types of
>> injuries. i do not like the statements made that the benefits of the
>> air bags outweigh the risks... ask a person who has been injured if
>> they think it is worth it... i read on the internet that the warning
>> labels for chemical exposure is on the underside of the already
>> deployed air bag. i guess you can get away with anything these days,
>> if you put a warning label on anything, even if you can't find it...
>>
>> i am sorry, i have to get down off my soap box now and send this
>> message, so that i can await your reply...
>>
>> thanks, linda
>>
>
>
> Hell, yes! And seat belts crack ribs. And that damned roof cracks your
> skull when you roll over three times and the roof caves in. Lets just
> have a seat with no doors, shall we. And another thing -- those baby
> seats give my kids a sore neck when the ride in them and fall asleep.
> I've never been in an accident with my kids in the car! Why should my
> kids have to ride in those uncomfortable seats??
>
> Cars are dangerous. Crashing hurts. Crashing at high speed really,
> really hurts!!!
>
> Sometimes the cure hurts a few a little bit. But it saves most people
> that have to use it.
>
> In the "eyes wrapped in airbag" example, trade "airbag" for "steering
> wheel" or "dashboard" and we don't have to worry about your eyes
> because it will be closed-casket anyway.
>
> Dan

please do not belittle my concern. i understand the problems associated
with getting in to a car.. the guy next to me could have had a bit too
much to drink and crash in to me and my casket will have to be
closed...i am informed about these things you mention, but i am mad as
hell about not being properly informed about the chemical hazards
associated with the deployment of the "life saving" apparatus'.

thanks you for your cute email..
i hope you have a great day...

linda

Dan Gates wrote:
> linda wrote:
>
>> i have recently found out that air bags cause respiratory problems
>> with their chemicals. the safety and auto industry knows this, but
>> have determined the benefits outweigh the risks. i am wanting to find
>> out how i can help, what i can do as an individual. i have read awful
>> stories of people who have been injured physically due to impact with
>> the airbags (brain damage, death, impairments of limbs and burns on
>> faces, and eyes that have actually had the air bag wrap around them
>> and cause tremendous injuries). the auto safety and auto industry
>> admit these types of injuries (risk vs benefit)... But being a "little
>> person" with limited resources, limited knowledge, i want to make
>> these large companies admit the respiratory injuries that these
>> chemicals cause and compensate those who have these types of
>> injuries. i do not like the statements made that the benefits of the
>> air bags outweigh the risks... ask a person who has been injured if
>> they think it is worth it... i read on the internet that the warning
>> labels for chemical exposure is on the underside of the already
>> deployed air bag. i guess you can get away with anything these days,
>> if you put a warning label on anything, even if you can't find it...
>>
>> i am sorry, i have to get down off my soap box now and send this
>> message, so that i can await your reply...
>>
>> thanks, linda
>>
>
>
> Hell, yes! And seat belts crack ribs. And that damned roof cracks your
> skull when you roll over three times and the roof caves in. Lets just
> have a seat with no doors, shall we. And another thing -- those baby
> seats give my kids a sore neck when the ride in them and fall asleep.
> I've never been in an accident with my kids in the car! Why should my
> kids have to ride in those uncomfortable seats??
>
> Cars are dangerous. Crashing hurts. Crashing at high speed really,
> really hurts!!!
>
> Sometimes the cure hurts a few a little bit. But it saves most people
> that have to use it.
>
> In the "eyes wrapped in airbag" example, trade "airbag" for "steering
> wheel" or "dashboard" and we don't have to worry about your eyes
> because it will be closed-casket anyway.
>
> Dan

In case you are referrng to leaks while just driving along, there aren't
any.

As regards gas poisoning on air bag deployment, I am not aware of any
reports, nor of any long-term effects. Could be that the survivors are so
grateful to be alive that they don't care about a brief respiratory
annoyance, which they might not notice anyway if they are otherwise injured.

I don't think people may necessarily "belittle" your concern, but it has to
be seen in context.

Do you have contrary information?

Certainly air bags have given rise to new types of injury, or at least
changed the injury profile in car accidents. Two 'common' ones are whiplash
and skin burn (from the bag fabric rubbing against skin).. and so? Give me
these any day...

I think the impression is that you wish to make a mountain out of an anthill
(well, so long as it isn't higher than a couple of mm.

So, once again, do you have any info to support your worry?

DAS
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"linda" > wrote in message
...
> please do not belittle my concern. i understand the problems associated
> with getting in to a car.. the guy next to me could have had a bit too
> much to drink and crash in to me and my casket will have to be closed...i
> am informed about these things you mention, but i am mad as hell about
> not being properly informed about the chemical hazards associated with the
> deployment of the "life saving" apparatus'.
>
> thanks you for your cute email..
> i hope you have a great day...
>
> linda
>
> Dan Gates wrote:
>> linda wrote:
>>
>>> i have recently found out that air bags cause respiratory problems with
>>> their chemicals. the safety and auto industry knows this, but have
>>> determined the benefits outweigh the risks. i am wanting to find out
>>> how i can help, what i can do as an individual. i have read awful
>>> stories of people who have been injured physically due to impact with
>>> the airbags (brain damage, death, impairments of limbs and burns on
>>> faces, and eyes that have actually had the air bag wrap around them and
>>> cause tremendous injuries). the auto safety and auto industry admit
>>> these types of injuries (risk vs benefit)... But being a "little person"
>>> with limited resources, limited knowledge, i want to make these large
>>> companies admit the respiratory injuries that these chemicals cause and
>>> compensate those who have these types of injuries. i do not like the
>>> statements made that the benefits of the air bags outweigh the risks...
>>> ask a person who has been injured if they think it is worth it... i read
>>> on the internet that the warning labels for chemical exposure is on the
>>> underside of the already deployed air bag. i guess you can get away
>>> with anything these days, if you put a warning label on anything, even
>>> if you can't find it...
>>>
>>> i am sorry, i have to get down off my soap box now and send this
>>> message, so that i can await your reply...
>>>
>>> thanks, linda
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hell, yes! And seat belts crack ribs. And that damned roof cracks your
>> skull when you roll over three times and the roof caves in. Lets just
>> have a seat with no doors, shall we. And another thing -- those baby
>> seats give my kids a sore neck when the ride in them and fall asleep.
>> I've never been in an accident with my kids in the car! Why should my
>> kids have to ride in those uncomfortable seats??
>>
>> Cars are dangerous. Crashing hurts. Crashing at high speed really,
>> really hurts!!!
>>
>> Sometimes the cure hurts a few a little bit. But it saves most people
>> that have to use it.
>>
>> In the "eyes wrapped in airbag" example, trade "airbag" for "steering
>> wheel" or "dashboard" and we don't have to worry about your eyes because
>> it will be closed-casket anyway.
>>
>> Dan