Another geezer plows into crowd - Another " stuck accelerator pedal"?? -

This sort of thing wil continue until we throw these impaired old
goats in prison when they lose control of their car. Stop coddling
these killers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/...rbucks_crash_2

Man drives onto Starbucks patio; 10 hurt Sat Jul 29, 3:10 AM ET

EL MONTE, Calif. - An elderly man drove a car onto a patio at a
Starbucks on Friday night, injuring 10 people, two of them critically,
authorities said.

The driver, who was believed to be 80 or 81, was trying to park in a
handicapped spot just after 9 p.m. when the car surged forward and hit
the customers sitting on the patio, said police Lt. William Fetner.

The car plowed through the patio and back into the parking lot, coming
to rest on top of another car, Fetner said.

A man and a woman were critically injured, said Capt. Mark Savage of
the Los Angeles County Fire Department. The other eight victims had
moderate injuries, he said.

Police struggled to get details from the driver, who spoke only
Japanese. He was not injured.

The identities of the driver and the victims were not released.

El Monte is 14 miles east of downtown Los Angeles

laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
> This sort of thing wil continue until we throw these impaired old
> goats in prison when they lose control of their car. Stop coddling
> these killers.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/...rbucks_crash_2
>
> Man drives onto Starbucks patio; 10 hurt Sat Jul 29, 3:10 AM ET
>
> EL MONTE, Calif. - An elderly man drove a car onto a patio at a
> Starbucks on Friday night, injuring 10 people, two of them critically,
> authorities said.
>
> The driver, who was believed to be 80 or 81, was trying to park in a
> handicapped spot just after 9 p.m. when the car surged forward and hit
> the customers sitting on the patio, said police Lt. William Fetner.
>
> The car plowed through the patio and back into the parking lot, coming
> to rest on top of another car, Fetner said.
>
> A man and a woman were critically injured, said Capt. Mark Savage of
> the Los Angeles County Fire Department. The other eight victims had
> moderate injuries, he said.
>
> Police struggled to get details from the driver, who spoke only
> Japanese. He was not injured.
>
> The identities of the driver and the victims were not released.
>
> El Monte is 14 miles east of downtown Los Angeles

I hate to say it but I used to own that make/model of car, I got rid of
it after the 3rd time the gas petal stuck, when previously it was
supposedly repaired at the dealer. I agree with your setiments about
the loss of mental capacity to drive, but I think we are also looking
at manufacturer cover up of a design defect as well. Luckily every
time it stuck was late at night on a freeway, and it stuck just after
going into passing mode, I had to literallly reach down and pry it up
at 70 MPH, which it did eaily pry.

Eric

On 29 Jul 2006 08:59:30 -0700, "armourereric" >
wrote:


>
>I hate to say it but I used to own that make/model of car, I got rid of
>it after the 3rd time the gas petal stuck, when previously it was
>supposedly repaired at the dealer. I agree with your setiments about
>the loss of mental capacity to drive, but I think we are also looking
>at manufacturer cover up of a design defect as well. Luckily every
>time it stuck was late at night on a freeway, and it stuck just after
>going into passing mode, I had to literallly reach down and pry it up
>at 70 MPH, which it did eaily pry.
>
>Eric

I don't believe you. Gas pedals don't stick. Only time you hear of
that is after a crash when the killer is fishing for some excuse.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 10:30:25 -0700, Scott en Aztlán
> wrote:

>laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE > said in
>rec.autos.driving:
>
>>Man drives onto Starbucks patio; 10 hurt Sat Jul 29, 3:10 AM ET
>>
>>EL MONTE, Calif. - An elderly man drove a car onto a patio at a
>>Starbucks on Friday night, injuring 10 people, two of them critically,
>>authorities said.
>>
>>The driver, who was believed to be 80 or 81, was trying to park in a
>>handicapped spot just after 9 p.m. when the car surged forward and hit
>>the customers sitting on the patio, said police Lt. William Fetner.
>>
>>Police struggled to get details from the driver, who spoke only
>>Japanese. He was not injured.
>
>Holy Double-Whammies, Batman! He was elderly AND asian!!!
>

I saw that too. One more reason to keep foreigners out of america
since they are even more reckless than americans.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:24:45 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
> wrote:

>On 29 Jul 2006 08:59:30 -0700, "armourereric" >
>wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I hate to say it but I used to own that make/model of car, I got rid of
>>it after the 3rd time the gas petal stuck, when previously it was
>>supposedly repaired at the dealer. I agree with your setiments about
>>the loss of mental capacity to drive, but I think we are also looking
>>at manufacturer cover up of a design defect as well. Luckily every
>>time it stuck was late at night on a freeway, and it stuck just after
>>going into passing mode, I had to literallly reach down and pry it up
>>at 70 MPH, which it did eaily pry.
>>
>>Eric
>
>I don't believe you. Gas pedals don't stick. Only time you hear of
>that is after a crash when the killer is fishing for some excuse.

Gas pedals do stick.
Not by design, but by happenstance.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:26:31 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
> wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 10:30:25 -0700, Scott en Aztlán
> wrote:
>
>>laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE > said in
>>rec.autos.driving:
>>
>>>Man drives onto Starbucks patio; 10 hurt Sat Jul 29, 3:10 AM ET
>>>
>>>EL MONTE, Calif. - An elderly man drove a car onto a patio at a
>>>Starbucks on Friday night, injuring 10 people, two of them critically,
>>>authorities said.
>>>
>>>The driver, who was believed to be 80 or 81, was trying to park in a
>>>handicapped spot just after 9 p.m. when the car surged forward and hit
>>>the customers sitting on the patio, said police Lt. William Fetner.
>>>
>>>Police struggled to get details from the driver, who spoke only
>>>Japanese. He was not injured.
>>
>>Holy Double-Whammies, Batman! He was elderly AND asian!!!
>>
>
>I saw that too. One more reason to keep foreigners out of america
>since they are even more reckless than americans.

Unless you're an Amerindian (Native American, whatever the current PC
words are), you're a foreigner. Get out NOW!.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

I've had fuel pedals stick in position, drop to the floor full throttle(two
broken return springs, believe it or not), and have had linkages come apart
and jam the throttle in position. It happens. In the one case i hit the
brake in panic, the car slowed and stopped with no real problem despite the
racing engine.

In many 'runaway' cases, i understand folks (of all ages)accidentally step
on the fuel when trying to hit the brake. Many cars, due to their design
and size, have the two closer together than the old boats we once drove. I
wonder if that's the case here...


"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" > wrote in message
...
> On 29 Jul 2006 08:59:30 -0700, "armourereric" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I hate to say it but I used to own that make/model of car, I got rid of
>>it after the 3rd time the gas petal stuck, when previously it was
>>supposedly repaired at the dealer. I agree with your setiments about
>>the loss of mental capacity to drive, but I think we are also looking
>>at manufacturer cover up of a design defect as well. Luckily every
>>time it stuck was late at night on a freeway, and it stuck just after
>>going into passing mode, I had to literallly reach down and pry it up
>>at 70 MPH, which it did eaily pry.
>>
>>Eric
>
> I don't believe you. Gas pedals don't stick. Only time you hear of
> that is after a crash when the killer is fishing for some excuse.
>

Bad driving is bad driving. It isn't caused by or related to race,
religion, or nationality, despite your deepest desire for it to be so. The
many close calls i have had on highways have mostly been due to the reckless
or negligent behavior of clean cut wholesome baseball-loving flag-waving
burger-chomping caucasian males in their twenties/thirties.

If you really wish to kick people off our roads in the name of safety,
consider the cocksure 'experienced' drivers who take chances for
entertainment, believing that they 'know what they're doing' because they
have 'x' miles/years accident free.

Sound like you?

"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 10:30:25 -0700, Scott en Aztlán
> > wrote:
>
>>laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE > said in
>>rec.autos.driving:
>>
>>>Man drives onto Starbucks patio; 10 hurt Sat Jul 29, 3:10 AM ET
>>>
>>>EL MONTE, Calif. - An elderly man drove a car onto a patio at a
>>>Starbucks on Friday night, injuring 10 people, two of them critically,
>>>authorities said.
>>>
>>>The driver, who was believed to be 80 or 81, was trying to park in a
>>>handicapped spot just after 9 p.m. when the car surged forward and hit
>>>the customers sitting on the patio, said police Lt. William Fetner.
>>>
>>>Police struggled to get details from the driver, who spoke only
>>>Japanese. He was not injured.
>>
>>Holy Double-Whammies, Batman! He was elderly AND asian!!!
>>
>
> I saw that too. One more reason to keep foreigners out of america
> since they are even more reckless than americans.
>

In article >, Bill Funk wrote:

> Gas pedals do stick.
> Not by design, but by happenstance.

Yes, but turning off the car and using the brake are almost always
effective counter measures.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:00:03 -0700, Bill Funk >
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:24:45 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
> wrote:
>
>>On 29 Jul 2006 08:59:30 -0700, "armourereric" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I hate to say it but I used to own that make/model of car, I got rid of
>>>it after the 3rd time the gas petal stuck, when previously it was
>>>supposedly repaired at the dealer. I agree with your setiments about
>>>the loss of mental capacity to drive, but I think we are also looking
>>>at manufacturer cover up of a design defect as well. Luckily every
>>>time it stuck was late at night on a freeway, and it stuck just after
>>>going into passing mode, I had to literallly reach down and pry it up
>>>at 70 MPH, which it did eaily pry.
>>>
>>>Eric
>>
>>I don't believe you. Gas pedals don't stick. Only time you hear of
>>that is after a crash when the killer is fishing for some excuse.
>
>Gas pedals do stick.
>Not by design, but by happenstance.

No they don't so stop defending this deadly geezer. You're a crimiinal
coddler.