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aarcuda69062 wrote:
>>I guess you can technically >>release hydrocarbon products to atmosphere legally, so it's no big >>deal. > > > Actually, no. Once any refrigerant is installed in a motor > vehicle, it falls under section 609 and has to be recovered. > If you used peanut butter and jelly, it would have to be > recovered by law... Right- laws aren't always particularly intelligently written. That's why you HAVE to recover R-134a that is in a car air conditioner, but you can go to Office Depot and buy 200 bottles of "Dust Off" to clean your computer fans, or go to an electronics shop and buy 200 bottles of "Freeze-It" used to chill semiconductors to find ones that quit working when hot and vent them into your office all day. Both of those (especially the freeze sprays) are usually R-134a, the same chemical used in car air conditioners. Its enough to make a rational person think the EPA is full of loonies. |
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loonies,,,, Fragile Warrior in the alt.gossip.celebrities newsgroup
coined a word for loonies, F' loons. cuhulin |
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Steve wrote:
> Right- laws aren't always particularly intelligently written. That's why > you HAVE to recover R-134a that is in a car air conditioner, but you can > go to Office Depot and buy 200 bottles of "Dust Off" to clean your > computer fans, I've seen that a lot, but my can of Falcon Dust-Off contains 1,1-Difluoroethane, CAS #75-37-4, which is R-152a. http://www.osha.gov/dts/chemicalsamp...CH_235325.html Not that it doesn't make a fine refrigerant in its own light, with a boiling point of -27C. Not that it isn't chemically similar to R-134a, it is. Just a data point. -- Happy Birthday, Canada! July 1, 1867 - July 1, 2007 In honor of Canada's birthday, all Canadians are directed to spend Sunday in their birthday suits. |
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Steve > wrote: > aarcuda69062 wrote: > > > >>I guess you can technically > >>release hydrocarbon products to atmosphere legally, so it's no big > >>deal. > > > > > > Actually, no. Once any refrigerant is installed in a motor > > vehicle, it falls under section 609 and has to be recovered. > > If you used peanut butter and jelly, it would have to be > > recovered by law... > > Right- laws aren't always particularly intelligently written. That's why > you HAVE to recover R-134a that is in a car air conditioner, but you can > go to Office Depot and buy 200 bottles of "Dust Off" to clean your > computer fans, or go to an electronics shop and buy 200 bottles of > "Freeze-It" used to chill semiconductors to find ones that quit working > when hot and vent them into your office all day. Both of those > (especially the freeze sprays) are usually R-134a, the same chemical > used in car air conditioners. > > Its enough to make a rational person think the EPA is full of loonies. I'd heard that claim about the duster cans a number of times, the ones I've seen at Office Max and Office Depot were not R-134a. <shrug> I quit fighting the rules decades ago, too much risk... Back in the 70s and 80s when we used to just let the R-12 fly, I remember thinking what a waste it was. |
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aarcuda69062 wrote:
> I quit fighting the rules decades ago, too much risk... I've more or less quit too, but they'll be kicking dirt over me when I stop calling the stoopid rules stoopid rules. -- Happy Birthday, Canada! July 1, 1867 - July 1, 2007 In honor of Canada's birthday, all Canadians are directed to spend Sunday in their birthday suits. |
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On Jun 27, 12:13 pm, "John S." > wrote:
> Summertime with it's inevitable high gas prices brings out ever more > miraculous ways to enhance gasoline MPG. I've also read about a > gimmick multi-electrode sparkplug that supposedly improves power and > milage at the same time. People are shelling out $9.00 per plug!! and these folks want $24.95 per plug ... for my Z28, that's only $200 for a set |
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aarcuda69062 wrote:
>>Its enough to make a rational person think the EPA is full of loonies. > > > I'd heard that claim about the duster cans a number of times, the > ones I've seen at Office Max and Office Depot were not R-134a. > <shrug> Dusters are a mixed bag- R-134a, R-152a, some even have CO2 blends IIRC, but usually there's something that liquifies easily so that you can pack more into a spray can. Isobutane is tempting, but flammable so I doubt its ever used in dusters. All the "freeze-it" type sprays I've seen lately, though, are R-134a. |
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I have taken my little WebTV battery powered wireless Philips Magnavox
keyboard apart numerous times before to clean the crud out and doggy's dog hairs out of there.I use an old Sears electric blower to blow the crud out and I put a few drops of Armor All in a dish and I use a tooth pick to lube the little tabs under my keyboard's keys before I stick them back on there.It works great. cuhulin ............................ As seen on WebTV ............................ |
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