completely OT!

I know we have some serious computer nerds here, and I say that
affectionately, even jealously ;-)

Microsoft, in their own form of brilliance (stupidity really!), when XP
changed to Vista, Outlook Express was dropped in favor of 'Microsoft Mail'
which, is about the same but just enough different to be a 'pain in the
arse'. Didn't make any sense to me but now, in Windows 7 they make another
move that makes about as much sense, they've dropped the mail program
completely as close as I can tell.

Can I get recommendations on (preferably) free software for sending and
receiving email and newsgroups?

I appreciate your input!

Chris
99BBB

Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> I know we have some serious computer nerds here, and I say that
> affectionately, even jealously ;-)
>
> Microsoft, in their own form of brilliance (stupidity really!), when XP
> changed to Vista, Outlook Express was dropped in favor of 'Microsoft
> Mail' which, is about the same but just enough different to be a 'pain
> in the arse'. Didn't make any sense to me but now, in Windows 7 they
> make another move that makes about as much sense, they've dropped the
> mail program completely as close as I can tell.
>
> Can I get recommendations on (preferably) free software for sending and
> receiving email and newsgroups?
>
> I appreciate your input!
>
> Chris
> 99BBB


i use thunderbird. it is free and very similar to outlook express.
it is developed by the same people that created the popular firefox
browser.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/

On 7/2/2010 12:16 AM, Christopher Muto wrote:
> Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>> I know we have some serious computer nerds here, and I say that
>> affectionately, even jealously ;-)
>>
>> Microsoft, in their own form of brilliance (stupidity really!), when
>> XP changed to Vista, Outlook Express was dropped in favor of
>> 'Microsoft Mail' which, is about the same but just enough different to
>> be a 'pain in the arse'. Didn't make any sense to me but now, in
>> Windows 7 they make another move that makes about as much sense,
>> they've dropped the mail program completely as close as I can tell.
>>
>> Can I get recommendations on (preferably) free software for sending
>> and receiving email and newsgroups?
>>
>> I appreciate your input!
>>
>> Chris
>> 99BBB
>
>
> i use thunderbird. it is free and very similar to outlook express.
> it is developed by the same people that created the popular firefox
> browser.
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/

I'll second that -- Thunderbird works well.

On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:15:08 -0400, John McGaw wrote:
> On 7/2/2010 12:16 AM, Christopher Muto wrote:
>> Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>>
>>> I know we have some serious computer nerds here, and I say that
>>> affectionately, even jealously ;-)
>>>
>>> Microsoft, in their own form of brilliance (stupidity really!), when
>>> XP changed to Vista, Outlook Express was dropped in favor of
>>> 'Microsoft Mail' which, is about the same but just enough different
>>> to be a 'pain in the arse'. Didn't make any sense to me but now, in
>>> Windows 7 they make another move that makes about as much sense,
>>> they've dropped the mail program completely as close as I can tell.
>>>
>>> Can I get recommendations on (preferably) free software for sending
>>> and receiving email and newsgroups?
>>>
>>> I appreciate your input!
>>
>> i use thunderbird. it is free and very similar to outlook express. it
>> is developed by the same people that created the popular firefox
>> browser. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/
>
> I'll second that -- Thunderbird works well.

I'll third it. I use thunderbird for all of my personal email. It has
built-in spam filtering, easy to configure mail sorting rules, etc. It's
cross-platform and it's free. Can't beat that.

On 2/07/2010 4:03 p.m., Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> I know we have some serious computer nerds here, and I say that
> affectionately, even jealously ;-)
>
> Microsoft, in their own form of brilliance (stupidity really!), when XP
> changed to Vista, Outlook Express was dropped in favor of 'Microsoft
> Mail' which, is about the same but just enough different to be a 'pain
> in the arse'. Didn't make any sense to me but now, in Windows 7 they
> make another move that makes about as much sense, they've dropped the
> mail program completely as close as I can tell.
>
> Can I get recommendations on (preferably) free software for sending and
> receiving email and newsgroups?
>
> I appreciate your input!
>
> Chris
> 99BBB

Windows live mail replaces outlook express / mail.
It's a much better email program than outlook express. Doesn't come on
the W7 disk - you need to d/l it.
I use live mail for email, thunderbird for newsgroups.

On 2010-07-01 10:03 PM, Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> I know we have some serious computer nerds here, and I say that
> affectionately, even jealously ;-)
>
> Microsoft, in their own form of brilliance (stupidity really!), when XP
> changed to Vista, Outlook Express was dropped in favor of 'Microsoft
> Mail' which, is about the same but just enough different to be a 'pain
> in the arse'. Didn't make any sense to me but now, in Windows 7 they
> make another move that makes about as much sense, they've dropped the
> mail program completely as close as I can tell.
>
> Can I get recommendations on (preferably) free software for sending and
> receiving email and newsgroups?
>
> I appreciate your input!
>
> Chris
> 99BBB

Thunderbird! It is free from Mozilla just like Firefox. I use it on
all our computers whether XP, Vista, or Windows 7.

Stuart H.
'91 Eunos Roadster

On 7/2/2010 7:42 AM, Stuart H. wrote:
> On 2010-07-01 10:03 PM, Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>> I know we have some serious computer nerds here, and I say that
>> affectionately, even jealously ;-)
>>
>> Microsoft, in their own form of brilliance (stupidity really!), when XP
>> changed to Vista, Outlook Express was dropped in favor of 'Microsoft
>> Mail' which, is about the same but just enough different to be a 'pain
>> in the arse'. Didn't make any sense to me but now, in Windows 7 they
>> make another move that makes about as much sense, they've dropped the
>> mail program completely as close as I can tell.
>>
>> Can I get recommendations on (preferably) free software for sending and
>> receiving email and newsgroups?
>>
>> I appreciate your input!
>>
>> Chris
>> 99BBB
>
> Thunderbird! It is free from Mozilla just like Firefox. I use it on all
> our computers whether XP, Vista, or Windows 7.
>
> Stuart H.
> '91 Eunos Roadster

I'll third, or quadruple the Thunderbird recommendation. I also like
Firefox for a web browser. I have never used any version of Internet
Explorer on any personal machine for any longer than it took to get over
to the Firefox site and download it.

The same used to be true for Netscape over whatever MS was using back in
1998 or so, and I am not a rabid anti-Microsoft person. I have just
always preferred the other non-Microsoft browsers and email programs.

You will probably need to set up a news server as well. This is a good
free one that was recommended to me by someone here. (Chris Muto?)

http://aioe.org/

There are lots of others out there that are free as well.

If you need help setting it up, let me know and I can either do it
remotely online, or I can talk you through it over the phone. It's not
rocket science stuff, but if you haven't done email and newsgroup
settings in a while, it can be helpful to have someone who is fresh on
the subject.

I also have a web-based (yahoo) account that I like because I can access
that account from any internet connected computer that I use.

This has come in handy when staying over at a "friend's" place,
especially before the so-called smart phones.

Pat

"Stuart H." > wrote in message
...
> Thunderbird! It is free from Mozilla just like Firefox. I use it on all
> our computers whether XP, Vista, or Windows 7.
>
> Stuart H.
> '91 Eunos Roadster

It's getting allot of votes ;-)

cd
99BBB

"Chris D'Agnolo" > wrote:

>
> "Stuart H." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thunderbird! It is free from Mozilla just like Firefox. I use
>> it on all our computers whether XP, Vista, or Windows 7.
>>
>> Stuart H.
>> '91 Eunos Roadster
>
> It's getting allot of votes ;-)

I wonder why?

I ran it for a year or so, just recently ditched it and returned to
Pegasus Mail.

T'burp's quirkiness finally drove me away from using it as an email
client and it's lack of scoring made it totally useless as a
newsreader. I know T'belch 3 has better filtering but it's still not
good enough to dive into a troll infested newsgroup.

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"Chris D'Agnolo" > wrote:

> Can I get recommendations on (preferably) free software for
> sending and receiving email and newsgroups?

You can still use Windows Mail, you'll need to get it from an old
Vista computer or have someone put in on a CD for you.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/0...-in-windows-7/

Personally, I don't think any combination program is good enough for
both mail and news, I use Pegasus Mail for email (after giving up
on T'Bird) and Xnews for newsgroups. Both are free.

Google will find them for you, Pegasus has a GREAT support group
and everything you ever need to know about Xnews is at:
news.software.readers on Usenet.


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