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God bless the troops that protect us.
"Mitch A" > wrote in message . com... > > Any real soldier knows that "war is hell" but for some odd reason the > mainstream media/liberals think we can wage a war without death and > destruction (The Danica/Cornacova sp? effect). As far as Im concerned > their is no such thing as a politically correct war and trying to wage one > proves once again how delirious some people are. > Any "real" soldier (not spelt "slave zombie") does not commit to combat due to a leader being unable to get the right group (Bin Laden) and so taking it out on an already beaten but not entirely finished off (due to George W's old man) group (Saddam/Iraq). The "Coalition of the willing" are pathetic little children in the eyes of all but other pathetic little children. In combat in a civilian zone and non desperate circumstances, the use of puppy drug addicts in the field, or even any troop under the age of 21 or so, is inexcusable. Uniforms are not in play here and the line between enemy and innocent civilian is blury to say the least. Imagine how blury that line is to a teenager and then imagine how blury it is to one on drugs! Clearly, bullets are getting sprayed around on a whim in many cases. Just a joke. And this is not even taking into account the morality and character of any individuals either! |
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"Alan Bernardo" > wrote in message . .. > > That may be the case, but America is not the world's police at all times > everywhere. There are more effective, longer-lasting ways of ridding the > world of pestilence rather than just bombing them. It's like the parent > who > resorts to physically hitting a child-- that's a LAST resort (i.e., > "never"). If that doesn't work, the parent is finished. War did not work > with the Iraqis, and now America might be finished. > Just a note here - in this country (australia), hitting a child is not a last resort - it's a trip to prison and an excuse for the gov't to steal your children. This is the great democracy we ar bringing to Iraq. LOL. Such laws get passed since the gov't is full of the ****ed who wish to **** everyone else. Also, since they have no character and standards to pass to there children they have no need for such tools ie the odd belt over the earhole for a child in the grip of a **** of a god or just plain stupidity. The best way to **** your own children over is to stand by and watch them fall into every trap here on planet earth - something that is inevitable without 1st rate parental guidance. And part of 1st rate parental guidance is the odd belt over the head or whatever is needed to purge the demons. |
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God bless the troops that protect us.
"Mitch A" > wrote in message om... > IT IS THE SOLDIER > It is the Soldier, not the minister > Who has given us freedom of religion. > > It is the Soldier, not the reporter > Who has given us freedom of the press. > > It is the Soldier, not the poet > Who has given us freedom of speech. > > It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer > Who has given us freedom to protest. > > It is the Soldier, not the lawyer > Who has given us the right to a fair trial. > > It is the Soldier, not the politician > Who has given us the right to vote. > > It is the Soldier who salutes the flag, > Who serves beneath the flag, > And whose coffin is draped by the flag, > Who allows the protester to burn the flag. > It is the bad soldier that kills children and the innocent It is the bad soldier that spreads homosexuality in Iraq It is the bad soldier that inspires people to level things like the twin towers etc, etc, etc |
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God bless the troops that protect us.
"Byron Forbes" > wrote in
>> > > It is the bad soldier that kills children and the innocent > > It is the bad soldier that spreads homosexuality in Iraq > > It is the bad soldier that inspires people to level things like > the twin > towers > > etc, etc, etc > > > The first one I agree. The second one, I have no knowledge and don't understand why homesexuality is bad to spread. Now..Aids..that is different. From what read of Abu Graib..it was Iraqi men raping Iraqi young men at the wink and nod of America. The third one...I don't see the connection. Bin Laden's beef was with having Infidels stationed in the Holy Land(Saudi Arabia) And having the Saudi Prince choose America to defend them instead of the Mujahadeen(sp?) Other Wahabi terrorists have used our decadent lifestyle as reason enough to destroy and kill. The al-qaida group was attacking because we are the USA, not because we are USA Soldiers. While they did strike directly at US military, (USS Cole, The Khobar Towers) they also directed attacks at symbols of the US goverment, like the two embassies in Africa that were bombed and...one might argue...the two separate attacks on the Twin Towers. So a bad soldier is just as much a symbol of the Goverment as a good soldier. To groups like Al Quaida, there is zero difference. And most of these attacks took place against a Democratic President, they do not care about our petty distinctions. It is the USA they attack because we are the USA, not because a Republican President is in power, or, as shown above, a Democratic one. I figure we will see several Murder trials resulting from the Hadifa shootings. Already there have been officers that have been releived of command.(a career death sentence if nothing else) The actions of the 'bad' soldiers will be punished. I doubt though, that the punishments of the Marines will sate the hatred of the military by many. I work in an industry that is flooded with retired Vetrans, and they span the gamut of good to bad. As with ANY group, beit Middle Eastern Madrassa Teachers, Politicians, citizens, and even college educated proffesionals, there will be evil in every group. Joining the Army does not guarentee there are no bad apples, just as joining a political party does not guarentee that all the elected officials will be motivated to act in the best interests of their constituants. I will end this by declaring my support of the United States Soldier. I do not hate them, I am not any more disgusted of their actions than I am of any group. I marvel at the sacrifices they make on my behalf. dave henrie |
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Byron Forbes wrote:
> "Mitch A" > wrote in message > om... > >> IT IS THE SOLDIER >> It is the Soldier, not the minister >> Who has given us freedom of religion. >> >> It is the Soldier, not the reporter >> Who has given us freedom of the press. >> >> It is the Soldier, not the poet >> Who has given us freedom of speech. >> >> It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer >> Who has given us freedom to protest. >> >> It is the Soldier, not the lawyer >> Who has given us the right to a fair trial. >> >> It is the Soldier, not the politician >> Who has given us the right to vote. >> >> It is the Soldier who salutes the flag, >> Who serves beneath the flag, >> And whose coffin is draped by the flag, >> Who allows the protester to burn the flag. >> > > > It is the bad soldier that spreads homosexuality in Iraq Why is that bad? |
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God bless the troops that protect us.
Marty_U > wrote in news:447bb471@user-4jkyi8khqn.:
> "Poll of troops in Iraq sees 72% support for withdrawal within a year. > > Seventy-two percent of troops on the ground in Iraq think U.S. military > forces should get out of the country within a year, according to a Zogby > poll released Tuesday." how nice. I'm sure when the Military is run as a democracy then the results of such a poll would be relevant. Without knowing the internals of such a poll, the numbers are meaningless. I can site the record numbers of re-inlistments as just as valid or non-valid a number as the above poll. for example.. Question: If the Iraqi Military/Police proved they could defend the populace, would you want to leave Iraq by the end of the year? for example: Question: Since we all know there will be no victory in Iraq, do you want to leave by year's end or wait til the politicians feel they have run out of Grunts to kill? for example: Question. Do you agree with President Bush's plan to reduce troop strength as the Iraqi Goverment proves it can defend it's people? If so, would you hope this was possible by year's end? for example: Question. If you knew the Iranian backed insurgents would have free reign to murder possibly millions of Iraqis after a premature US pullout. would you still want to leave by year's end? for example: Question. If you knew this topic was out of the realm of this newsgroup and you continued to post anyway, would you therefore expect everyone else to be just as frivolous with any rule and therefore our soldiers would be completely justified in any action they took against any group? dave henrie |
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Marty_U > wrote in news:447bb11f@user-4jkyi8khqn.:
> May God strike down the corrupt leaders who have sent them to be killed > and maimed for lies. So when the previous Democratic Presidential canditate stated that Saddam must be dis-armed, was he lieing? When the previous democratic President declared Iraq a terrorist state and signed legislation that stated 'regime change', was he lieing? So when the leader of the CIA, a man appointed first by a Democratic President said that the presense of WMD in IRAQ was a slam dunk, was HE lieing? When the King of Jordan stated that Iraq had WMD, When the President of Egypt stated to General Franks that Saddam had many WMD, When the intelligence agencies of Russia, France, Germany, England, Israel, along with dozens of other countries...were they ALL lieing? When the former National Security Advisor to President Clinton stole and destroyed classified documents from the National Archives...was that corrupt? When a private detective, hired by the subbordinates of President Clinton and a man with ZERO clearance, aquired hundreds of IRS files of US citizens, was that not only corrupt but spying on Americans? If one is to make such horrific statements, at least one could do is provide some sort of proof that lieing took place. If one was to charge politicians as corrupt, the least he could do is tell us WHICH politicians were corrupt and why. If one is to blindly beleive that only the OTHERSIDE is bad bad bad, then one must not have a very firm grasp of reality. The reality is...Political parties are all exactly the same, they all do that which benefits themselves.. There was a President that was for Tax Cuts, that was for foreign intervention, that was for clandestine regime change. This President was Democrat JFK. There was a President was for the arrest and detention of hundreds of thousands of US citizens all without any warrants. This President replaced the entire Supreme court. This President was Democrat. There was a President who allowed his underlings to break laws and steal sensitive information. This President then used his power to protect those under him. This President also used the IRS to punish those who criticized him. This President was Republican. There was a President who suborned Perjury and allowed his lawyer in a court of law to perpetuate this perjury, this president bald-facedly lied to the American people on camera and then had his entire cabinet criss- cross the country to defend and repeat the lie. Another President suspended parts of the Constitution and deported some political opponents. That president was Republican. Please folks..wake up. We are not served by crucifying our opponents while totally ignoring behavior that is identical or even worse from those whom you support. Yes the Republicans have done wrong. But to suggest, that ONLY the Republicans are corrupt, is sooo naive. And did you notice that not ONCE, not a single solitary time, did I insult. I have, and continue to post without screaming invective at either side. dave henrie |
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God bless the troops that protect us.
>> May God strike down the corrupt leaders who have sent them to be killed
>> and maimed for lies. > > So when the previous Democratic Presidential canditate stated that Saddam > must be dis-armed, was he lieing? When the previous democratic President > declared Iraq a terrorist state and signed legislation that stated 'regime > change', was he lieing? So when the leader of the CIA, a man appointed > first by a Democratic President said that the presense of WMD in IRAQ was > a > slam dunk, was HE lieing? When the King of Jordan stated that Iraq had > WMD, When the President of Egypt stated to General Franks that Saddam had > many WMD, When the intelligence agencies of Russia, France, Germany, > England, Israel, along with dozens of other countries...were they ALL > lieing? > When the former National Security Advisor to President Clinton stole and > destroyed classified documents from the National Archives...was that > corrupt? When a private detective, hired by the subbordinates of > President > Clinton and a man with ZERO clearance, aquired hundreds of IRS files of > US > citizens, was that not only corrupt but spying on Americans? > If one is to make such horrific statements, at least one could do is > provide some sort of proof that lieing took place. If one was to charge > politicians as corrupt, the least he could do is tell us WHICH politicians > were corrupt and why. If one is to blindly beleive that only the > OTHERSIDE > is bad bad bad, then one must not have a very firm grasp of reality. The > reality is...Political parties are all exactly the same, they all do that > which benefits themselves.. > > There was a President that was for Tax Cuts, that was for foreign > intervention, that was for clandestine regime change. This President was > Democrat JFK. > There was a President was for the arrest and detention of hundreds of > thousands of US citizens all without any warrants. This President > replaced > the entire Supreme court. This President was Democrat. > There was a President who allowed his underlings to break laws and steal > sensitive information. This President then used his power to protect > those > under him. This President also used the IRS to punish those who > criticized > him. This President was Republican. > There was a President who suborned Perjury and allowed his lawyer in a > court of law to perpetuate this perjury, this president bald-facedly lied > to the American people on camera and then had his entire cabinet criss- > cross the country to defend and repeat the lie. > Another President suspended parts of the Constitution and deported some > political opponents. That president was Republican. > > Please folks..wake up. We are not served by crucifying our opponents > while > totally ignoring behavior that is identical or even worse from those whom > you support. Yes the Republicans have done wrong. But to suggest, that > ONLY the Republicans are corrupt, is sooo naive. > > And did you notice that not ONCE, not a single solitary time, did I > insult. I have, and continue to post without screaming invective at > either > side. > dave henrie The most annoying thing about Liberal anti-war tree huggers is that they are right but do not know how to implement their philosophies. Check out Neil Young's new CD "Living With War". It's probably his finest album to date and that's saying something. It's because he's writing and singing with passion but, unfortunately, as with all these well meaning, Dudley do rights, they can never actually explain how all this peace love and understanding is going to come about. Shame, as most of what they strive for is perfectly reasonable. Just un-achievable. How do the explain Nanking, the holocaust or any other atrocity ? It's because there are human beings(?) among us that have never been influenced by any political thinking. They have a different agenda. |
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Well said Ted. I also agree with some of those ideas but as you say (kinda)
and "an idea does not a solution make". lol. Problem is we give an inch and they take a mile with their socialist agenda. Everyone isnt equal. Equality comes from desire, hard work, and ability not some scumbag politicians penstroke. If someone want to bitch at something why not attack the real enemy, Congress.... Mitch "redTed" > wrote in message ... |
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God bless the troops that protect us.
You are one strange person.
"Byron Forbes" > wrote in message > Especially all the women, homosexuals and men who think there's nothing > wrong with sex with 2nd hand women. **** only know's what any of you think > you're protecting but good luck to you anyway. With luck, you won't get > your head blown off and you can return to the good ole U.S of A where you > can live out the rest of your life as a **** amongst your fellow ****s! > > Glory, glory, hallelujah ! > > LOL. > |
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