Front End Alignment

Any idea what a typical front end alignment should cost for a 2000
Wrangler 6 cyl and how often it should be done. Regular road
vehicle(little or no stup jumping).
Thanks
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

The ONLY thing in a 2000 TJ's front-end that can be aligned is the
toe-in. Without using aftermarket parts, the caster and camber angles
are fixed and not adjustable.

The good news is you can easily and totally accurately set your own
toe-in. I haven't paid to have my toe-in set in years since learning
how to do my own. Set your own toe-in to 1/8" by using the easy
instructions at http://www.4x4xplor.com/alignment.html All you need
is a tape measure, a wrench, and a big set of pliers. A friend to hold
one end of the tape measure while you measure is helpful. No worries,
done with a little care this technique will produce a toe-in setting
just as accurately as the high-school dropout at the local alignment
shop can produce. That webpage also shows how to center your own
steering wheel.

Joe Carroll wrote:
> Any idea what a typical front end alignment should cost for a 2000
> Wrangler 6 cyl and how often it should be done. Regular road
> vehicle(little or no stup jumping).
> Thanks
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:22:11 -0700, Jerry Bransford >
wrote:

>The ONLY thing in a 2000 TJ's front-end that can be aligned is the
>toe-in. Without using aftermarket parts, the caster and camber angles
>are fixed and not adjustable.
>
Thanks,
I thought I had seen something here about that but just couldn't find
the info.
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

What Jerry said.

Part of doing the spring over is installing the shims to correct the Caster
Angle. Once the shims are installed, the Caster becomes a non-adjustment.
Surely there are few, perhaps very few, alignment shops that will even
consider shimming the axle to get the caster angle back after a spring over.
Or, a lift for that matter.





"Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
news:v%KMe.2890$ct5.524@fed1read04...
> Camber angle is not adjustable on your YJ, so far as I know at least, and
> your Caster angle can only be adjusted by inserting a wedge between the
> spring and axle. So I'd have to guess that for all intents and purposes,
> your YJ's toe-in is probably the only thing that is easily adjustable.
> Certainly few alignment shops would insert a wedge to adjust your Caster
> angle. Besides, it's usually only the toe-in that actually needs
> adjusting after a lift has been installed or the front has run into
> something or been damaged while offroading.
>
> Jerry
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> Jerry- What about on my SOA YJ?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
>> news:XuJMe.2885$ct5.616@fed1read04...
>>
>>>The ONLY thing in a 2000 TJ's front-end that can be aligned is the
>>>toe-in. Without using aftermarket parts, the caster and camber angles
>>>are fixed and not adjustable.
>>>
>>>The good news is you can easily and totally accurately set your own
>>>toe-in. I haven't paid to have my toe-in set in years since learning
>>>how to do my own. Set your own toe-in to 1/8" by using the easy
>>>instructions at http://www.4x4xplor.com/alignment.html All you need
>>>is a tape measure, a wrench, and a big set of pliers. A friend to hold
>>>one end of the tape measure while you measure is helpful. No worries,
>>>done with a little care this technique will produce a toe-in setting
>>>just as accurately as the high-school dropout at the local alignment
>>>shop can produce. That webpage also shows how to center your own
>>>steering wheel.
>>>
>>>Joe Carroll wrote:
>>>
>>>>Any idea what a typical front end alignment should cost for a 2000
>>>>Wrangler 6 cyl and how often it should be done. Regular road
>>>>vehicle(little or no stup jumping).
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Joe Carroll
>>>>2K-TJ
>>>>
>>>>There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
>>>> Joseph Duemer
>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:22:11 -0700, Jerry Bransford > wrote:

>The ONLY thing in a 2000 TJ's front-end that can be aligned is the
>toe-in. Without using aftermarket parts, the caster and camber angles
>are fixed and not adjustable.

When did they do away with the eccentrics to adjust the caster angle? My 98 has
them.

Dean
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/

Dean
1998 was the last year with the adjustable caster. Jerry is correct in
stating that 1/8" toe-in and centering the steering is all that most
people should need. Even with my lifted TJ, I have always done the
alignment myself. It takes minutes and I haven't had any issues with
handling or abnormal tire wear.

Regards,

Guri

Dean wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:22:11 -0700, Jerry Bransford > wrote:
>
> >The ONLY thing in a 2000 TJ's front-end that can be aligned is the
> >toe-in. Without using aftermarket parts, the caster and camber angles
> >are fixed and not adjustable.
>
> When did they do away with the eccentrics to adjust the caster angle? My 98 has
> them.
>
> Dean
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:37:38 GMT, Joe Carroll
> wrote:

>Any idea what a typical front end alignment should cost for a 2000
>Wrangler 6 cyl and how often it should be done. Regular road
>vehicle(little or no stup jumping).
>Thanks
>Joe Carroll
>2K-TJ
>
>There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer


I asked because my Dueller AT Revoes are becoming scalloped and
wearing uneven. They are getting progressively noiser and front end
alignment was the only thing I haven't checked. I've not jumped any
curbs but I bought the TJ used. Is their anything else that could
cause that problem with a tire that I've missed?
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

the tires need to be rotated every 3K miles front to back not side to side


"Joe Carroll" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:37:38 GMT, Joe Carroll
> > wrote:
>
> >Any idea what a typical front end alignment should cost for a 2000
> >Wrangler 6 cyl and how often it should be done. Regular road
> >vehicle(little or no stup jumping).
> >Thanks
> >Joe Carroll
> >2K-TJ
> >
> >There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> > Joseph Duemer
>
>
> I asked because my Dueller AT Revoes are becoming scalloped and
> wearing uneven. They are getting progressively noiser and front end
> alignment was the only thing I haven't checked. I've not jumped any
> curbs but I bought the TJ used. Is their anything else that could
> cause that problem with a tire that I've missed?
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>
> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:27:22 GMT, "IsellJeeps"
> wrote:

>the tires need to be rotated every 3K miles front to back not side to side
>
That I'm aware of and have been doing..
Joe Carroll
2K-TJ

There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

Joe Carroll wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:37:38 GMT, Joe Carroll
> > wrote:
>
> >Any idea what a typical front end alignment should cost for a 2000
> >Wrangler 6 cyl and how often it should be done. Regular road
> >vehicle(little or no stup jumping).
> >Thanks
> >Joe Carroll
> >2K-TJ
> >
> >There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> > Joseph Duemer
>
> I asked because my Dueller AT Revoes are becoming scalloped and
> wearing uneven. They are getting progressively noiser and front end
> alignment was the only thing I haven't checked. I've not jumped any
> curbs but I bought the TJ used. Is their anything else that could
> cause that problem with a tire that I've missed?
> Joe Carroll
> 2K-TJ
>

Scalloping usually implies they are out of balance or the shocks are
worn out.

If it is more only on the front set and you say you rotate, then I would
be checking the shocks out. If you bounce the corner up and down hard,
then let go, a good shock should only bounce once to one and a half
bounces. If you get 2 bounces, it is weak, if you get 3 bounces it is
dead.

The tape measure is a fast way to check the alignment though. Then if
you look at the Jeep from the front and notice a tire tilted more than
another, suspect worn ball joints. You could use a carpenters level
vertical to check for even angles up/down on the front tires. if off,
something is worn out.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's