H6024??

Last night I found I had a broken headlight on the 1992 MX5. On my way
home I stopped at a couple of places to get a new one and found
AutoZone was out and their computer showed their other nearby stores
were also out.

I headed across the street to Walmart and found one there, they had
only two.

I wonder if the H6024 going to become a scarce item? Apparently nobody
uses the old 7" round dual beam headlight any more...



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XS11E > wrote:

> I wonder if the H6024 going to become a scarce item? Apparently nobody
> uses the old 7" round dual beam headlight any more...

I think I still have a couple somewhere in the basement, removed when I
installed Hella E-codes about 10 years ago. I can't recommend
enthusiastically enough that you do the same.

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Lanny Chambers > wrote:

> In article > ,
> XS11E > wrote:
>
>> I wonder if the H6024 going to become a scarce item? Apparently
>> nobody uses the old 7" round dual beam headlight any more...
>
> I think I still have a couple somewhere in the basement, removed
> when I installed Hella E-codes about 10 years ago. I can't
> recommend enthusiastically enough that you do the same.

As long as WallyWorld has them I'm OK and I'm completely satisfied with
the existing lights which have several advantages over the Hella, one
being that they don't cost anything since they're already there! That
appeals to my basic cheapness!


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i think the h6024 will be around for a long time. lots of cars use them.
20+ years of jeeps for instance. many volkswagons, and so on. they may not
be readily available in retail stores forever but most certainly by mail
order. then again the hella or like retrofit lens/bulb combination and the
like are always and option. like xs11e i am frugal and didn't want to pay
for hella but didn't want the cheap plastic junk sold on ebay either. i
found a set of glass lens that were discussed in a volkswagon group. they
are made by empi, model 9311, and are h4 conversion kit lamps similar to the
hella. they are probably not as good as hella but they are a vast
improvement over the sealed beams that came with the car. these lens are
completely flat on the front and so look a bit more modern than the original
sealed beams. they do have a visible horizontal cut off like hella
suggesting that there really is some engineering in the cutting of the lens.
they only cost me $25 for the pair including the bulbs. i see them
currently on email for about $40 and they are probably available elsewhere.
i recommend them to anyone that doesn't want to pay double (triple?) for the
hellas. however the hella are probably dot approved and i can't recall if
these are or not.

"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> In article > ,
> XS11E > wrote:
>
>> I wonder if the H6024 going to become a scarce item? Apparently nobody
>> uses the old 7" round dual beam headlight any more...
>
> I think I still have a couple somewhere in the basement, removed when I
> installed Hella E-codes about 10 years ago. I can't recommend
> enthusiastically enough that you do the same.
>
> --
> Lanny Chambers
> St. Louis, MO
> '94C

fwiw if you search ebay for "empi h4" you will get a short list of things
available in ebay stores. the one offered by ispwest vw parts has great
photos of this item.

"Christopher Muto" > wrote in message
...
>i think the h6024 will be around for a long time. lots of cars use them.
>20+ years of jeeps for instance. many volkswagons, and so on. they may not
>be readily available in retail stores forever but most certainly by mail
>order. then again the hella or like retrofit lens/bulb combination and the
>like are always and option. like xs11e i am frugal and didn't want to pay
>for hella but didn't want the cheap plastic junk sold on ebay either. i
>found a set of glass lens that were discussed in a volkswagon group. they
>are made by empi, model 9311, and are h4 conversion kit lamps similar to
>the hella. they are probably not as good as hella but they are a vast
>improvement over the sealed beams that came with the car. these lens are
>completely flat on the front and so look a bit more modern than the
>original sealed beams. they do have a visible horizontal cut off like
>hella suggesting that there really is some engineering in the cutting of
>the lens. they only cost me $25 for the pair including the bulbs. i see
>them currently on email for about $40 and they are probably available
>elsewhere. i recommend them to anyone that doesn't want to pay double
>(triple?) for the hellas. however the hella are probably dot approved and
>i can't recall if these are or not.
>
> "Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article > ,
>> XS11E > wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if the H6024 going to become a scarce item? Apparently nobody
>>> uses the old 7" round dual beam headlight any more...
>>
>> I think I still have a couple somewhere in the basement, removed when I
>> installed Hella E-codes about 10 years ago. I can't recommend
>> enthusiastically enough that you do the same.
>>
>> --
>> Lanny Chambers
>> St. Louis, MO
>> '94C
>
>

In article >,
"Christopher Muto" > wrote:

> however the hella are probably dot approved

The Hella E-code is not DOT approved, apparently because it lacks the
three little bumps for machine aiming (is that still done?).

The Hella Vision Plus model is approved, but it has an inferior light
pattern and is particularly unsuitable for use on NA Miatas--there's a
weep hole that isn't at the low point when the barn doors are closed, so
the reflector collects condensation.

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Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO
'94C

Lanny Chambers wrote:
> In article >,
> "Christopher Muto" > wrote:
>
>> however the hella are probably dot approved
>
> The Hella E-code is not DOT approved, apparently because it lacks the
> three little bumps for machine aiming (is that still done?).
>
> The Hella Vision Plus model is approved, but it has an inferior light
> pattern and is particularly unsuitable for use on NA Miatas--there's a
> weep hole that isn't at the low point when the barn doors are closed,
> so the reflector collects condensation.

Ooh, thanks for mentioning that, Lanny. I think I have to replace one of
mine and I think that was one of the models I found.

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"Christopher Muto" > wrote:

> i think the h6024 will be around for a long time. lots of cars
> use them. 20+ years of jeeps for instance. many volkswagons, and
> so on.

I have to agree, I was VERY unpleasantly surprised to find them not
readily available at local stores. I'm wondering if the stores were
temporarily out or if they don't plan on carrying them any more?


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XS11E wrote:
> Last night I found I had a broken headlight on the 1992 MX5. On my way
> home I stopped at a couple of places to get a new one and found
> AutoZone was out and their computer showed their other nearby stores
> were also out.
>
> I headed across the street to Walmart and found one there, they had
> only two.
>
> I wonder if the H6024 going to become a scarce item? Apparently nobody
> uses the old 7" round dual beam headlight any more...

Sealed beams are rubbish - they were only kept in production by archaic
US lighting regs. Japanese NA imports come over to the UK with them,
and you can spot them easily because they're so dim and yellow compared
to H4 halogens.

A lot of people are fitting the HID H4 conversion kits now, but they're
borderline-legal (the regs really require headlamp washers and dynamic
self-levelling).