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L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:
> Roughly 1/9/04 17:03, Douglas A. Shrader's monkeys randomly typed: > >> >> No, I'm not. I have a 1980 Jeep CJ-7 with part time 4WD, it has 4 >> high, 4 low, and 2 high, and warn lockout hubs. > > That is a part time 4wd that agrees with the definition Jeep > themselves uses. > > >> The confusion here was between the old style fulltime 4x4's like the >> 78 Jeep J-10 with Quadratrac that drove horribly, like a part time >> 4x4 locked in 4WD mode on drive pavement, .and the Modern 4x4's with >> a third differential that eliminates the biding the old stule system >> suffered from. Call me old but when someone says fulltime the old >> style is what I think of. > > Bummer, but there is a difference between a crappy implementation > and the concept. Much earlier than 1978, the Jensen Interceptor > had full time 4wd by Ferguson... and could take the torque of a > 440 wedge or 426 hemi. Plus the Audi Quattro. > The viscous diff was also used on Range Rovers and Ford Sierra 4x4 cars around the late 80's/early 90's. They have a tendancy to seize in older RR's giving the tyre wear and fuel consumption problems you described. > Most jeeps still had part time 4wd... >>> >>>> The 1978 Jeep J-20 pickup with quadratrac was full time four wheel >>>> drive with only two Differentials, and as I stated you could >>>> barely make a >> turn >>>> with it, I had to back up three times just to make it around the >>>> Taco Bell > > Yeah, you keep stating that, but in fact it DID have a differential > and a vacuum lock called Emergency Drive that could more or less > lock the front and rear in the Xfer case. > > Of course you could do the same thing by putting the wrong > transmission fluid in it. > > >> >> Mine wouldn't slip. Perhaps it was supposed to, but it never did. If >> you needed to make a sharp turn forget it, you had to back up >> several times to make the turn. > > It was supposed to. Many didn't. Some had help. -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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>> >> You insisted many times that the full-time 4WD setup you were >> describing had no centre diff, which it does, this is why the >> question never got a satisfactory answer. > > Well, no, not that you could see. However I can see where it may have > been incorporated into the transfer case, so that blunder was mine, > and I apologize. > >> >> To conclude, I agree with you - if that was the type full-time 4WD >> available I too would prefer part-time, but I think a proper >> permanent 4WD system is on balance superior. > > Perhaps I'll try one one my next truck, they do sound far superior to > what I had. I also hope the next time a thread like this starts I > stay out of it. ;-) Never mind - at least we got to the end of it! -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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>> >> You insisted many times that the full-time 4WD setup you were >> describing had no centre diff, which it does, this is why the >> question never got a satisfactory answer. > > Well, no, not that you could see. However I can see where it may have > been incorporated into the transfer case, so that blunder was mine, > and I apologize. > >> >> To conclude, I agree with you - if that was the type full-time 4WD >> available I too would prefer part-time, but I think a proper >> permanent 4WD system is on balance superior. > > Perhaps I'll try one one my next truck, they do sound far superior to > what I had. I also hope the next time a thread like this starts I > stay out of it. ;-) Never mind - at least we got to the end of it! -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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Roughly 1/9/04 18:08, Douglas A. Shrader's monkeys randomly typed:
> > Jerry Bransford. He doesn't seem to post much lately. I had hoped he would > say something in this thread, he's pretty sharp on the uptake and could have > clarified a few things for both sides, or so I hoped. . Jerry hangs out pretty regularly over on r.a.m.j+w altho haven't seen him there lately. Also Mike Romain who is recovering from a nasty vehicle accident and "treatment" by a socialized medical system. |
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Roughly 1/9/04 18:08, Douglas A. Shrader's monkeys randomly typed:
> > Jerry Bransford. He doesn't seem to post much lately. I had hoped he would > say something in this thread, he's pretty sharp on the uptake and could have > clarified a few things for both sides, or so I hoped. . Jerry hangs out pretty regularly over on r.a.m.j+w altho haven't seen him there lately. Also Mike Romain who is recovering from a nasty vehicle accident and "treatment" by a socialized medical system. |
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