Thermostat

On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:43:30 +0000, Catman
> wrote:

>On 05/12/2010 11:42, Zathras wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:43:41 -0000, R C > wrote:
>>
>>> VW beetle[1], an aged Viva[2], and a Morris 1300 GT[3]
>>
>> Good grief. All that's needed now is a cool dude in a rusty Sud.
>>
>
>I might volunteer

*Cool* not cold! ;-)

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On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:48:38 +0000, Catman
> wrote:

>On 03/12/2010 13:03, GT wrote:

>> Maserati?

>Yep. I *keep* trying.

That's been a few years now, boy! If you wait much longer you'll just
look like a sad, old, decrepit, doddery, cheap aristocrat when/if you
get one! :-o

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On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:51:27 +0000, Catman
> wrote:

>On 04/12/2010 14:10, Zathras wrote:
>> On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:36:51 +0000, Catman
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/12/2010 21:59, Zathras wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 10:50:29 +0000, Catman
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/12/2010 10:28, Zathras wrote:

>>>> However, the lateral grip
>>>> they offer is on a different planet to the 205s on the 156.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cool. Do they track as badly as mine do?
>>
>> You'll need to tell me what you mean by tracking for me to answer
>> correctly. However, taking a guess at what you mean, no the tyres run
>> straight and true and the car isn't easily deflected from its course.
>> It could be just down to rear wheel drive though. I should say that
>> I'm using expensive, and soft, Michelins and the fronts are 225 where
>> the rears are 255.
>
>I was talking about the habit of tracking each rut in the road. It seems
>not, from your description.

Correct. I do think it's the rear wheel drive though. It tracks
noticeably better than a 156 when hitting puddles etc with some power
on and a slight steering angle, say. Although this is hugely affected
by tyre differences, one of the few bits of BMW hype I do agree with
is that not having the drive going to the front wheels does seem to
reduce the chance of them overloading a little. I always thought the
tracking in the 156 was good for a front wheel drive car though.

>> How about this for a balanced opinion, I've have a 3 Series for the
>> sheer performance, handling and mechanical competence and an Alfa for
>> just about everything else..
>
>Sounds fair. The badge would look horrid, though

Would look better than what I have now regardless. Come to think of
it, only if it doesn't have dodgy bug eyes though! ;-) Yeeeuch...

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On 06/12/2010 09:29, Zathras wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:43:30 +0000, Catman
> > wrote:
>
>> On 05/12/2010 11:42, Zathras wrote:
>>> On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:43:41 -0000, R C > wrote:
>>>
>>>> VW beetle[1], an aged Viva[2], and a Morris 1300 GT[3]
>>>
>>> Good grief. All that's needed now is a cool dude in a rusty Sud.
>>>
>>
>> I might volunteer
>
> *Cool* not cold! ;-)
>

No, no. My stats work

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On 06/12/2010 09:34, Zathras wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:48:38 +0000, Catman
> > wrote:
>
>> On 03/12/2010 13:03, GT wrote:
>
>>> Maserati?
>
>> Yep. I *keep* trying.
>
> That's been a few years now, boy!


You've got to have a dream, if you don't have a ream etc etc
> If you wait much longer you'll just
> look like a sad, old, decrepit, doddery, cheap aristocrat when/if you
> get one! :-o
>
I think I already look old, decrepit, doddery and aristocratic.

Less of the cheap, though, if you don't mind so very much.

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"Zathras" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 13:56:19 +0000, (SteveH)
> wrote:
>
>>My experience of modern stability programs is that they will be doing
>>all kinds of clever stuff before you feel them kick in.
>
> The Beemer seems, surprisingly, a bit slow-witted compared to an old
> 156 JTS I drove a while back.

I was sitting here quietly thinking exactly that - my 156 JTS has very smart
stability control - you feel it kick in on greasy roundabout - it feels like
a big hand grabs hold of the wheel that is sliding sometimes and just holds
on until grip returns.

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:13:31 -0000, "GT" > wrote:

>I was sitting here quietly thinking exactly that - my 156 JTS has very smart
>stability control - you feel it kick in on greasy roundabout - it feels like
>a big hand grabs hold of the wheel that is sliding sometimes and just holds
>on until grip returns.

Yep. Best front wheel drive electronic control I've driven. ASR - does
exactly what it says on the tin.

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On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:06:50 +0000, Catman
> wrote:

>Less of the cheap, though, if you don't mind so very much.

How so? :-)

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On 06/12/2010 21:10, Zathras wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:06:50 +0000, Catman
> > wrote:
>
>> Less of the cheap, though, if you don't mind so very much.
>
> How so? :-)
>

<sulk>

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Zathras spoke:
> >I was sitting here quietly thinking exactly that - my 156 JTS has very smart
> >stability control - you feel it kick in on greasy roundabout - it feels like
> >a big hand grabs hold of the wheel that is sliding sometimes and just holds
> >on until grip returns.
>
> Yep. Best front wheel drive electronic control I've driven. ASR - does
> exactly what it says on the tin.

Indeed - last winter's freeze my 159 made it up a local steep hill trickling on
tickover - to the applause of the locals who had gathered to marshall traffic up
and down the iced over road.

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164 V6 Lusso (gone)