Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey

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> > >> > Chris X wrote:
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> > >> >> > Greg Hennessy wrote:
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> > >> >> >> >If only the reporter had actualy read his own report. A system to
> > >> >> >> >convert traffic and CCTV cameras into ANPR ones will not monitor
> > >> >> >> >every car everywhere.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Are you *really* sure about that ?
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> > >> >> > You tell me. Does every road in the UK have a CCTV camera on it?
> > >> >> > Does
> > >> >> > the majority? Sure, most towns and cities will be able to monitor a
> > >> >> > large number of roads - but even there I doubt they'll cover every
> > >> >> > possible journey.
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> > >> >> > Out in the country you know as well as I do that there will be vast
> > >> >> > gaps in the coverage.
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> > >> >> >> > Now will it mean millions of motorists being nicked or
> > >> >> >> >getting tickets - not unless there will be a vast army of new
> > >> >> >> >coppers to follow up every one of these 100 million "plate reads"
> > >> >> >> >its going to record every day.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> It doesnt require a 'vast army' when the numberplate recognition
> > >> >> >> system can generate the relevant paperwork direct from the DVLA
> > >> >> >> databases.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Generate what paperwork? Speeding tickets? CCTV cameras don't have
> > >> >> > radar on them.....
> > >> >>
> > >> >> No MOT, no tax, no insurance etc. Do try and keep up, Ian.
> > >> >
> > >> > So the objection is that this system will take uninsured death traps
> > >> > off the road? Yeah, its a terrible world we live in.....
> > >>
> > >> Next you'll be saying "If you've nothing to hide then you've got nothing
> > >> to worry about".
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps those who say "I have nothing to hide" and "I don't care" have
> > >> already stepped over the Rubicon from proud member of the human species
> > >> to controllable lab rat ?
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> > > So you ARE objeecting to uninsured deathtraps being taken off the road?
> > > Even I am concerned by the idea of using CCTV as ANPR - it won't work
> > > and it'll cost a fortune. But, if it succeeds in reducing the numbr of
> > > people driving without insurance and in dangerous cars then thats a good
> > > thing surely even you can't disagree with.
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> > LOL ! I'm objecting to coming under constant computerised surveillance, I
> > really couldn't give a toss about your side-issues which you have raised
> > above to try and get support from Daily Mail readers.
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> The "side issue" is the central purpose. You still haven't told me what
> the police are going to do with this flood of partial journey
> information which doesn't relate to these "side issues". I'll make it
> easy for you - lets look at the partial surveillance they already have
> over us via bank cards and mobile phones. How many thousand people has
> big brother nicked for fantasy crimes since we all got trackable
> mobiles?
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> > > Except that you'll probably start defending every Englishman's right to
> > > drive without insurance.....
> >
> > If you were half a man you'd defend every British person's right to go about
> > their business without being under constant computerised surveillance.
> > Still, if it saves the life of just *one* child, eh ?
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> Yes, if it saves the life of my child, absolutely. If only it was just
> one being killed instead of thousands, with tens of thousands of others
> seriously injured. And thats saying nothing about the criminal gangs -
> many of them foreigners which I thouught you would like - roaming
> around the roads which this system will make much easier to catch.
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> As with all these things we have to weigh up the benefits with the
> drawbacks. Much has been said about how CCTV is an intrusion into civil
> liberties - but has anyone got proof that it has been? A lot of
> criminals have been caught, but has has anyone been nicked for doing
> nothing wrong at all?
>
> Ian

"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation.
We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland."

- Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.


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