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Old January 21st 13, 08:25 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Steve Stone[_4_]
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.

I've owned my purchased new 2010 PT Cruiser for a little over 3 years
and 25,000 miles.

Over this time frame I've had:

both front wheel bearings replaced under warranty at 20,000 miles,
it burns about a half quart of oil every 1,500 miles,
the parking brake shoes on one side failed to release,
the satellite radio audio quality is sub par due to low sample rate,
yesterday my wife showed me what at first looked like a nickel size spot
of rust blistering under the paint along the edge of the rear fender
well, on closer inspection looks more like body spot filler that has
blistered up under the paint.

Based on these issues build quality is significantly poorer with this
model year
than with my 2006 Pt Cruiser (totaled) and my 2000 300M.

Are the newer Chrysler's any better or should I look elsewhere in the
future?

Steve

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Old January 22nd 13, 03:28 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
BobMCT
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.

On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:25:09 -0500, Steve Stone >
wrote:

>I've owned my purchased new 2010 PT Cruiser for a little over 3 years
>and 25,000 miles.
>
>Over this time frame I've had:
>
>both front wheel bearings replaced under warranty at 20,000 miles,
>it burns about a half quart of oil every 1,500 miles,
>the parking brake shoes on one side failed to release,
>the satellite radio audio quality is sub par due to low sample rate,
>yesterday my wife showed me what at first looked like a nickel size spot
>of rust blistering under the paint along the edge of the rear fender
>well, on closer inspection looks more like body spot filler that has
>blistered up under the paint.
>
>Based on these issues build quality is significantly poorer with this
>model year
>than with my 2006 Pt Cruiser (totaled) and my 2000 300M.
>
>Are the newer Chrysler's any better or should I look elsewhere in the
>future?
>
>Steve


Steve,

I've owned my '01 PT since new ordered on the very first day allowed.
I've only got 97K miles and have never experienced anything other than
routine maintenance such as timing belt, water pump, hoses and brakes.

Now, to add a little fuel to your question: In a recent issue of Car
and Driver they were summarizing experience with a 2012 Jeep GC Laredo
(a Chrysler product and why I am responding). They stated that since
they took delivery new they experience trouble with the transmission
shifting hard, loud and jumpy. The dealer kept checking and
responding that there was nothing wrong. Some 30-40K miles later and
after the standard warranty they still experienced the same problem
and C&D was able to convince the factory to once and for all replace
the transmission. Chrysler/jeep agreed but required that the original
tranny be returned to the factory for examination. What they reported
back was that right from the factory several of the planetary gear
sets did NOT have any locking retainers installed which was allowing
the gears to simply meander around the inside of the case.

My wife and I drove numerous jeep vehicles from 1983 through 1999 and
all of them were just fine. So my point in repeating this article is
about the build quality or lack thereof as it exists today.

Now its entirely possible that that particular jeep was built on a
Monday the day after the Super Bowl during a snow storm while all the
line workers were coming down with the flu. But I doubt it.

Unfortunately this doesn't answer your question definitively, but I
hope it helps.

BobMCT
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Old January 22nd 13, 04:00 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
MoPar Man
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.

BobMCT wrote:

> > I've owned my purchased new 2010 PT Cruiser for a little over
> > 3 years and 25,000 miles.
> >
> > Over this time frame I've had:
> > (...)


> > Are the newer Chrysler's any better or should I look elsewhere
> > in the future?


> In a recent issue of Car and Driver they were summarizing experience
> with a 2012 Jeep GC Laredo
>
> My wife and I drove numerous jeep vehicles from 1983 through 1999
> and all of them were just fine. So my point in repeating this
> article is about the build quality or lack thereof as it exists
> today.


The lower "pie-plate" supporting the spring on one of the front struts
on my '00 300m rusted and broke this past Dec. 24. The plate dropped
about an inch where it contacted (and was supported by) the steering arm
(going in one direction) and the arm for connecting the sway-bar link
(going in the other direction). Luckily there was still barely enough
clearance for the tire and I could still drive it home. I went to one
of those stand-alone auto-parts stores and picked up a new quick-strut,
and working in my heated garage had it installed by 10 pm christmas eve.

When I was at the parts store, I asked what was the most common cars
that people come in for to get parts. He said about 60% of the time
it's for recent-model Chrysler's (Dodge, Jeep, etc). 2008 and newer. A
lot of electrical-related parts (coil-packs, windshield-wiper motors, -
stuff like that).
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Old January 22nd 13, 06:50 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Ashton Crusher[_2_]
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.

On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:25:09 -0500, Steve Stone >
wrote:

>I've owned my purchased new 2010 PT Cruiser for a little over 3 years
>and 25,000 miles.
>
>Over this time frame I've had:
>
>both front wheel bearings replaced under warranty at 20,000 miles,
>it burns about a half quart of oil every 1,500 miles,
>the parking brake shoes on one side failed to release,
>the satellite radio audio quality is sub par due to low sample rate,
>yesterday my wife showed me what at first looked like a nickel size spot
>of rust blistering under the paint along the edge of the rear fender
>well, on closer inspection looks more like body spot filler that has
>blistered up under the paint.
>
>Based on these issues build quality is significantly poorer with this
>model year
>than with my 2006 Pt Cruiser (totaled) and my 2000 300M.
>
>Are the newer Chrysler's any better or should I look elsewhere in the
>future?
>
>Steve



My 09 PT has 38,000 miles on it. So far its been one of the most
trouble free new car I've owned. Repairs under warranty: 2 door-lock
actuators, oil pressure switch, battery. The seats are great, ride is
great, mpg is mediocre, power is mediocre. One of the most
comfortable cars I've driven for LONG trips. Driving 13 hours a day
in it is actually better than the Crown Vic I used to drive in terms
of how much my body "buzzes" at the end of a trip.
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Old January 23rd 13, 05:14 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
rob
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.

what part of the country do you live in?


"Steve Stone" > wrote in message
...
> I've owned my purchased new 2010 PT Cruiser for a little over 3 years and
> 25,000 miles.
>
> Over this time frame I've had:
>
> both front wheel bearings replaced under warranty at 20,000 miles,
> it burns about a half quart of oil every 1,500 miles,
> the parking brake shoes on one side failed to release,
> the satellite radio audio quality is sub par due to low sample rate,
> yesterday my wife showed me what at first looked like a nickel size spot
> of rust blistering under the paint along the edge of the rear fender well,
> on closer inspection looks more like body spot filler that has blistered
> up under the paint.
>
> Based on these issues build quality is significantly poorer with this
> model year
> than with my 2006 Pt Cruiser (totaled) and my 2000 300M.
>
> Are the newer Chrysler's any better or should I look elsewhere in the
> future?
>
> Steve
>



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Old January 23rd 13, 02:59 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Steve Stone[_4_]
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.


>>what part of the country do you live in?


Hudson River Valley, NY
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Old January 25th 13, 02:41 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
rob
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.

some of your issues sound weather related but if you didn't have these
issues with your older cars, then the weather cant explain it all.


"Steve Stone" > wrote in message
...
>
> >>what part of the country do you live in?

>
> Hudson River Valley, NY



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Old January 26th 13, 06:41 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Steve Stone[_4_]
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.

On 1/24/2013 8:41 PM, Rob wrote:
> some of your issues sound weather related but if you didn't have these
> issues with your older cars, then the weather cant explain it all.
>


Road salt use in my area causes issues over the long term, however over
the past 30 years I've never seen salt damage to the body of my autos
until a car is at least 10 years old (1985 T-Bird), 15 years for 1988
New Yorker.

I have a 1995 T-Bird, purchased new and a 12 year old 300M with no body
rust damage from road salt.

The PT Cruiser body failing at 3 years and 25,000 miles is in my mind a
manufacturing point of failure.

I did not have similar problem with a 3 year old 2006 PT Cruiser.

Steve


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Old January 27th 13, 01:16 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
BobMCT
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:41:26 -0500, Steve Stone >
wrote:

>On 1/24/2013 8:41 PM, Rob wrote:
>> some of your issues sound weather related but if you didn't have these
>> issues with your older cars, then the weather cant explain it all.
>>

>
>Road salt use in my area causes issues over the long term, however over
>the past 30 years I've never seen salt damage to the body of my autos
>until a car is at least 10 years old (1985 T-Bird), 15 years for 1988
>New Yorker.
>
>I have a 1995 T-Bird, purchased new and a 12 year old 300M with no body
>rust damage from road salt.
>
>The PT Cruiser body failing at 3 years and 25,000 miles is in my mind a
>manufacturing point of failure.
>
>I did not have similar problem with a 3 year old 2006 PT Cruiser.
>
>Steve
>

Steve,

Agreed. But doesn't the vehicle have some sort of body failure
warranty that was part of the overall chrysler 5/50, 7/70 plan? I
think by the time the 2010's hit the market the PT was already planned
history so perhaps the work detail suffered, After all, the Taluca,
Mex plant was being retooled for other products by then. Might be
work tracking down the regional Chrysler rep and doing a big complaint
job on him. As you have been a loyal Chysler customer for a while he
might give in some and cover the body failure. It you don't ask the
answer is always NO. You might be surprised.

Good luck - and if you do follow up on that please post your results.
Lots of us readers would be interested to know.
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Old January 27th 13, 05:04 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
rob
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Default 2010 PT Cruiser - 3 year review.

like I said...if you've had good luck with others, then weather wont
explain it.



"Steve Stone" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/24/2013 8:41 PM, Rob wrote:
>> some of your issues sound weather related but if you didn't have these
>> issues with your older cars, then the weather cant explain it all.
>>

>
> Road salt use in my area causes issues over the long term, however over
> the past 30 years I've never seen salt damage to the body of my autos
> until a car is at least 10 years old (1985 T-Bird), 15 years for 1988 New
> Yorker.
>
> I have a 1995 T-Bird, purchased new and a 12 year old 300M with no body
> rust damage from road salt.
>
> The PT Cruiser body failing at 3 years and 25,000 miles is in my mind a
> manufacturing point of failure.
>
> I did not have similar problem with a 3 year old 2006 PT Cruiser.
>
> Steve
>
>



 




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