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Old June 14th 09, 06:35 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
David Fisher's Left Testicle
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RSC is back up!
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Old June 14th 09, 06:58 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
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> RSC is back up!

woot! http://racesimcentral.com/

rms


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Old June 14th 09, 07:43 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
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"rms" > wrote in message
...
>> RSC is back up!

>
> woot! http://racesimcentral.com/
>
> rms
>

And now the server is overloaded. A bit of a launch day rush no doubt.

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Old June 14th 09, 11:16 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
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"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message
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>
> "rms" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> RSC is back up!

>>
>> woot! http://racesimcentral.com/
>>
>> rms
>>

> And now the server is overloaded. A bit of a launch day rush no doubt.


As slow as ever. And do I seriously have to agree to the so-called "terms"
every time I a new forum for the first time?

I think that what took RSC so long to get back up is because they spent most
of the time writing up these "terms."

If RSC spent less time worrying about setting all these rules and let things
go, they'd have less trouble. People tend to bicker and then forget about
it.

When going to RSC, I feel like I'm entering a war zone where I have to abide
by some Geneva Convention.

It's going to be the same old thing, only worse.

(Yeah, I know what the typical response will be-- "if you don't like the
place don't go to it.")


Alan


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Old June 14th 09, 11:24 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
jeffareid
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>>> RSC is back up!
> And now the server is overloaded. A bit of a launch day rush no doubt.


Combined with people promoting it at various places such as RAS ...

Who is David Fisher? I recall an incident with Dennis Leary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVyhXlPCI4Q&fmt=18





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Old June 14th 09, 11:47 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
jeffareid
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> And do I seriously have to agree to the so-called "terms" every time I'm at a new forum for the first time?

< General rule #5:
< All serious complaints about staff or users should not be
< publically posted by members.

So non serious complaints about staff are OK then?

RSC is the only racing forum I know of that uses a public warning
system, with their yellow and red card system, branding their
members with the equivalent of a forum "Scarlet Letter" by having
a warning icon avatar added to every post ever made by the victim
member.















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Old June 15th 09, 05:32 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
jeffareid
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> I can't imagine ever complaining about any forum or its moderators unless I was
> paying for access and desperately wanted to stay. So that in itself is pretty
> trivial to me.
>
> On the whole the rules seems geared towards trying to keep on the right side of the
> law (always a potential problem for forum owners in these litigious times) and
> trying to impose some kind of behaviour limits. That seems fair enough even if when
> written down such rules tend to look overbearing.


I left RSC for getting a warning for this video of a demo qualifying run
by David Coulthard made for some European TV station and one that had
been available on several web sites for a few years before I mirrored
it and posted the link at RSC:

http://jeffareid.net/real/spaf1.wmv

They claimed I violated a copyright, and put a yellow card warning
on all my posts, and refused to give me the time to show that this
particular video was in the public domain before adding the warining.

They're view was that I was guilty until proven innocent, and that
the yellow icon would remain attached to every post I ever made
at RSC until I could prove the video was in public domain by getting
Bernie Ecclestone, the owner of F1 racing, to send RSC a personal
letter stating the video was in the public domain.

At the time, there was nothing in the rules about their "infraction
system". If I wasn't using my real name at RSC this wouldn't have been
such a big deal, but as it was, I considered the guitly until
proven innocent yellow flags on my posts to be a violation of their
own rules since it was "false, abusive, defamatory, and harrasing":

RSC forum rule:
"2.1: Any content that is false, abusive, defamatory, or harassing
is not permitted in posts, avatars, and signatures."

A neighbor of mine at the time is a lawyer, and he stated that since
I had used my real name instead of a persona at RSC, the yellow
warning on all posts made with my real name, would be enough for
a viable civil suit for defamation of character. Few forum moderators
are willing to risk using such a public warning system as RSC does
because of the legal risks associated with defamation of character.

When I mentioned the defamation issue to RSC moderators, their
response was to perma-ban me. Rather than start a civil suit, my
neighbor suggested that I request RSC remove every post I ever
made there, to eliminate any chance of further defamatory harm,
which I did and RSC complied by removing all my posts.

Another issue at the time was that RSC was the "official" support
site for a few games, and any action limiting members access
to that support could be in violation of any agreement between
the game makers and RSC. Currently, I'm not aware of any game
that uses an outside forum for support, so this issue has
gone away.

I occasionally browse RSC, but I don't ever plan on rejoining
with their current infraction policy. RSC is the only racing game
forum that feels they need to chastise it's members with a public
warning system. All other forum simply delete unwanted content
and handle these matter privately through pm's or emails.





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Old June 15th 09, 07:46 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
David Fisher's Left Testicle
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"jeffareid" > wrote in message
...
>> And do I seriously have to agree to the so-called "terms" every time I'm
>> at a new forum for the first time?

>
> < General rule #5:
> < All serious complaints about staff or users should not be
> < publically posted by members.
>
> So non serious complaints about staff are OK then?
>

That's the sort of thing only a **** would do.

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Old June 15th 09, 07:48 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
David Fisher's Left Testicle
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"jeffareid" > wrote in message
...
>> I can't imagine ever complaining about any forum or its moderators unless
>> I was
>> paying for access and desperately wanted to stay. So that in itself is
>> pretty
>> trivial to me.
>>
>> On the whole the rules seems geared towards trying to keep on the right
>> side of the
>> law (always a potential problem for forum owners in these litigious
>> times) and
>> trying to impose some kind of behaviour limits. That seems fair enough
>> even if when
>> written down such rules tend to look overbearing.

>
> I left RSC for getting a warning for this video of a demo qualifying run
> by David Coulthard made for some European TV station and one that had
> been available on several web sites for a few years before I mirrored
> it and posted the link at RSC:
>
> http://jeffareid.net/real/spaf1.wmv
>
> They claimed I violated a copyright, and put a yellow card warning
> on all my posts, and refused to give me the time to show that this
> particular video was in the public domain before adding the warining.
>
> They're view was that I was guilty until proven innocent, and that
> the yellow icon would remain attached to every post I ever made
> at RSC until I could prove the video was in public domain by getting
> Bernie Ecclestone, the owner of F1 racing, to send RSC a personal
> letter stating the video was in the public domain.
>
> At the time, there was nothing in the rules about their "infraction
> system". If I wasn't using my real name at RSC this wouldn't have been
> such a big deal, but as it was, I considered the guitly until
> proven innocent yellow flags on my posts to be a violation of their
> own rules since it was "false, abusive, defamatory, and harrasing":
>
> RSC forum rule:
> "2.1: Any content that is false, abusive, defamatory, or harassing
> is not permitted in posts, avatars, and signatures."
>
> A neighbor of mine at the time is a lawyer, and he stated that since
> I had used my real name instead of a persona at RSC, the yellow
> warning on all posts made with my real name, would be enough for
> a viable civil suit for defamation of character. Few forum moderators
> are willing to risk using such a public warning system as RSC does
> because of the legal risks associated with defamation of character.
>
> When I mentioned the defamation issue to RSC moderators, their
> response was to perma-ban me. Rather than start a civil suit, my
> neighbor suggested that I request RSC remove every post I ever
> made there, to eliminate any chance of further defamatory harm,
> which I did and RSC complied by removing all my posts.
>
> Another issue at the time was that RSC was the "official" support
> site for a few games, and any action limiting members access
> to that support could be in violation of any agreement between
> the game makers and RSC. Currently, I'm not aware of any game
> that uses an outside forum for support, so this issue has
> gone away.
>
> I occasionally browse RSC, but I don't ever plan on rejoining
> with their current infraction policy. RSC is the only racing game
> forum that feels they need to chastise it's members with a public
> warning system. All other forum simply delete unwanted content
> and handle these matter privately through pm's or emails.
>

Stop being an overly sensitive, little girl.

 




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