Detroit Three executives

I wouldn't blame the Detroit Three executives. They were as well
prepared as Paulson was. Why would they expect more detailed answers and
plans were needed?

"Tim" > wrote in message
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>I wouldn't blame the Detroit Three executives. They were as well prepared
>as Paulson was. Why would they expect more detailed answers and plans were
>needed?

C'mon, Tim... These turkeys knew they were coming before Congress to be
grilled and they should have been prepared to answer hard questions.
Paulson
is an administration hanger-on, admitted, but we are not really talking
about
Nardelli being better than Paulson.

The three "stooges" made fools of themselves.

I recognized two of the Senators you are referencing, but who do you think
was the third?


"HLS" > wrote in message
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>
> "Tim" > wrote in message
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>
> The three "stooges" made fools of themselves.

HLS wrote:
>
> "Tim" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I wouldn't blame the Detroit Three executives. They were as well
>> prepared as Paulson was. Why would they expect more detailed answers
>> and plans were needed?
>
> C'mon, Tim... These turkeys knew they were coming before Congress to be
> grilled and they should have been prepared to answer hard questions.
> Paulson
> is an administration hanger-on, admitted, but we are not really talking
> about
> Nardelli being better than Paulson.
>
> The three "stooges" made fools of themselves.


How many times has Paulson changed his mind about what he is going to do?
The reason they need the loan is obvious. There is a credit freeze
caused by the banks.
The companies have other problems but this is what has caused them to go
to the government for loans at this time.

The politicians were laying in wait, determined to make a show for the
electorate, who would rather have these companies fail or their workers'
standards of living drop than save an industry that helped improve the
blue collar worker's life to one that is the envy of the world.

Tim wrote:
> HLS wrote:
>>
>> "Tim" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I wouldn't blame the Detroit Three executives. They were as well
>>> prepared as Paulson was. Why would they expect more detailed answers
>>> and plans were needed?
>>
>> C'mon, Tim... These turkeys knew they were coming before Congress to be
>> grilled and they should have been prepared to answer hard questions.
>> Paulson
>> is an administration hanger-on, admitted, but we are not really
>> talking about
>> Nardelli being better than Paulson.
>>
>> The three "stooges" made fools of themselves.
>
>
> How many times has Paulson changed his mind about what he is going to do?
> The reason they need the loan is obvious. There is a credit freeze
> caused by the banks.
> The companies have other problems but this is what has caused them to go
> to the government for loans at this time.
>
> The politicians were laying in wait, determined to make a show for the
> electorate, who would rather have these companies fail or their workers'
> standards of living drop than save an industry that helped improve the
> blue collar worker's life to one that is the envy of the world.

It's quite a dilemma for those who hate corporate America but love the
unions.

--
Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')

"Tim" > wrote in message news:a3654$492b3204$cef8ac46
> How many times has Paulson changed his mind about what he is going to do?
> The reason they need the loan is obvious. There is a credit freeze
> caused by the banks.
> The companies have other problems but this is what has caused them to go
> to the government for loans at this time.


It makes no difference. At this time, Paulsen is the "bull goose".

EVERYBODY has credit problems. The problems exceed the money even on
a national basis.

I am not at odds with you, but this is a ****teaux politics driven issue.

These pimps in Washington will eventually do something, even if it is wrong.

HLS wrote:

> ...These pimps in Washington will eventually do something, even if it is
> wrong.

Unfortunately that's probably true. Or they'll do the right thing for
the wrong reasons - we can hope.

--
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

On Nov 24, 7:23*pm, Bill Putney > wrote:
> Tim wrote:
> > HLS wrote:
>
> >> "Tim" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >>> I wouldn't blame the Detroit Three executives. They were as well
> >>> prepared as Paulson was. Why would they expect more detailed answers
> >>> and plans were needed?
>
> >> C'mon, Tim... These turkeys knew they were coming before Congress to be
> >> grilled and they should have been prepared to answer hard questions.
> >> Paulson
> >> is an administration hanger-on, admitted, but we are not really
> >> talking about
> >> Nardelli being better than Paulson.
>
> >> The three "stooges" made fools of themselves.
>
> > How many times has Paulson changed his mind about what he is going to do?
> > The reason they need the loan is obvious. There is a credit freeze
> > caused by the banks.
> > The companies have other problems but this is what has caused them to go
> > to the government for loans at this time.
>
> > The politicians were laying in wait, determined to make a show for the
> > electorate, who would rather have these companies fail or their workers'
> > standards of living drop than save an industry that helped improve the
> > blue collar worker's life to one that is the envy of the world.
>
> It's quite a dilemma for those who hate corporate America but love the
> unions.
>
> --
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

while you are free and happy to bash unions you seem oblivious to the
outrageous "compensation packages" the ****heads in suits who do
nothing all day- they make far more than the workers who earn their
wage in mind numbing drugery day in day out. Show some respect

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:00:22 -0500, Tim cast forth these pearls of
wisdom...:


>
> How many times has Paulson changed his mind about what he is going to do?
> The reason they need the loan is obvious. There is a credit freeze
> caused by the banks.
> The companies have other problems but this is what has caused them to go
> to the government for loans at this time.
>
> The politicians were laying in wait, determined to make a show for the
> electorate, who would rather have these companies fail or their workers'
> standards of living drop than save an industry that helped improve the
> blue collar worker's life to one that is the envy of the world.

Come on Tim. You're coming across as an apologist for the automakers.
What does it matter what Paulson did? The Big 3 came to town for a handout
and it's perfectly reasonable to expect that they would have a well
prepared case for a hand out if they really want one. It's also quite
reasonable to expect they would not flaunt their stuff, coming into town in
their private jets, etc. They blew it big time, in every sense.

There is no credit freeze either. My daughter just bought a new car - her
first car loan. Easily got financing for 7.5%. Had several offers
hovering around that same mark. She's only 24 so she does not have the
history that you or I have, so that's a pretty good rate for her. What
kind of credit freeze is there Tim?

Politicians always want to put on a show for the electorate, and I agree
they did so this time. The problem is that the three stooges played right
into it and made the show real.

--

-Mike-

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:06:55 -0800 (PST), cast forth
these pearls of wisdom...:


>
> while you are free and happy to bash unions you seem oblivious to the
> outrageous "compensation packages" the ****heads in suits who do
> nothing all day- they make far more than the workers who earn their
> wage in mind numbing drugery day in day out. Show some respect

Mind numbing drugery is nothing to respect.

Outrageous compensation packages, I can agree with - folks in suits wo do
nothing all day, I can't. It only shows how little you really understand
about the various aspects of a business organization.

--

-Mike-