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  #1  
Old June 13th 11, 01:57 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
uncle_vito
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Default 2014 Corvette

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tte/index.html

I may actually be interested in buying a new Corvette. A smaller, higher
revving, variable overhead cam design with direct fuel injection may be in
order for 2014. The present C6 has a neanderthal pushrod V-8 and a horrible
interior. Also the looks are gaudy.

I hope the 2014 brings the average age of the Corvette driver down to age
70. I am considerably less than that age and do not want to be seen driving
'an old man's car'.

Also add to the fact that GM talked the government into ****ing away
perfectly good cash to cover for GM's management stupidity and it is really
a reach for me to want to buy any GM vehicle these days.

I think I will keep driving my 64 convertible. Back then, GM wasn't the
joke of a car company that it is now.

Vito


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  #2  
Old June 13th 11, 02:44 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
CardsFan[_2_]
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"uncle_vito" wrote in message
.. .

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tte/index.html

I may actually be interested in buying a new Corvette.
_______________

Who cares? GM will sell as many as they want to make.
_______________

A smaller, higher revving, variable overhead cam design with direct fuel
injection may be in
order for 2014. The present C6 has a neanderthal pushrod V-8 and a horrible
interior. Also the looks are gaudy.
_______________

The LS1/2/6/7 provide excellent power. Appreciation of styling is a
personal thing.
_______________

I hope the 2014 brings the average age of the Corvette driver down to age
70. I am considerably less than that age and do not want to be seen driving
'an old man's car'.
_______________

Then don't.
_______________

Also add to the fact that GM talked the government into ****ing away
perfectly good cash to cover for GM's management stupidity and it is really
a reach for me to want to buy any GM vehicle these days.
_______________

Then don't.
_______________

I think I will keep driving my 64 convertible. Back then, GM wasn't the
joke of a car company that it is now.
_______________

Who cares?

AJM
'93 40th Anniversary coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
_______________

Vito


  #3  
Old June 13th 11, 04:13 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Dad[_1_]
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Posts: 1,100
Default 2014 Corvette


"uncle_vito" > wrote in message
.. .
> http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tte/index.html
>
> I may actually be interested in buying a new Corvette. A smaller,
> higher revving, variable overhead cam design with direct fuel
> injection may be in order for 2014. The present C6 has a
> neanderthal pushrod V-8 and a horrible interior. Also the looks are
> gaudy.
>
> I hope the 2014 brings the average age of the Corvette driver down
> to age 70. I am considerably less than that age and do not want to
> be seen driving 'an old man's car'.
>
> Also add to the fact that GM talked the government into ****ing away
> perfectly good cash to cover for GM's management stupidity and it is
> really a reach for me to want to buy any GM vehicle these days.
>
> I think I will keep driving my 64 convertible. Back then, GM wasn't
> the joke of a car company that it is now.
>
> Vito

You are Johnny on the spot to pick up this breaking news, oh wait,
that was released as a 2011 by Left Lane News and as a 2013 by others
back in 2009, now slipped to 2014 and I'm not betting on that being
true. Even the obnoxious car presented as the next generation Corvette
was not built by GM. The car will get a restyled rear end and a touch
up on the front, some lighter material in some parts, and you will be
told how nice the interior is but only color changes will be made. As
far as VVT my guess would be it will still be a Neanderthal push rod
engine.

Sure you will buy a 2014 Corvette design being as youthful as you seem
to think a Corvette buyer needs to be. They bring out that abortion
and it will have a youthful price tag able to hit 70K with very few
options. Just the car for the fast food workers budget. My guess would
be that it will be a modified body and maybe slight frame change for
the C6 with an engine that could be troublesome at best and under
powered as a base unit. Then add a good power plant and the price will
be astronomical, like the joke they called the ZR1 back in the '90s.

At one time I looked forward to driving the next generation Corvettes
but not what you describe nor the one being presented by the car rags.

Let me know when you get off your ass and go drive that "gaudy" C6 to
redline in fifth gear, or even 4th for that matter, ahh, forget that
you couldn't handle 3rd, let alone 4th or 5th. You don't have the
balls for that so why would you need a higher revving engine in a
lighter car? I guess there are those that just have to own something
even if they can't drive them. Drove the C6 to a festival in mid state
this weekend in a very hard rain coming home, still got 29 MPG and did
hit triple figures on the HUD once. Next day drove the '64 to a nearby
rib off and was able to get 10 MPG and saw 60 MPH once as any of you
old drivers can. Stopped at a friends house that was near by and there
sat his '65 fuel injected coupe under its cover. Didn't even bother to
take it one mile to the car show but then he's an ancient 62 years
old. This week will be the '72's turn as it has cooled enough to drive
a black car without air-conditioning. If you don't drive them why have
them?

You must wear your shoes backward to think that GM was a car company
back when they built the '64 you have gathering dust in the corner of
your garage. Although there are those that think the design was great
it was one of the worst assembled cars on the market. Only it's short
lived years of production has kept it from being another GM ghost of
the past. GM has been ****ing away our money for years but ran it
through the government filter this time to screw people out of more
product value.

Save the wave, that may be all we have left as Corvette owners,

--
Dad
05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
64 Red/red/white top/4spd


  #4  
Old June 13th 11, 04:36 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Dad[_1_]
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Posts: 1,100
Default 2014 Corvette


"CardsFan" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "uncle_vito" wrote in message
> .. .
>
> http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tte/index.html
>
> I may actually be interested in buying a new Corvette.
> _______________
>
> Who cares? GM will sell as many as they want to make.
> _______________
>
> A smaller, higher revving, variable overhead cam design with direct
> fuel injection may be in
> order for 2014. The present C6 has a neanderthal pushrod V-8 and a
> horrible
> interior. Also the looks are gaudy.
> _______________
>
> The LS1/2/6/7 provide excellent power. Appreciation of styling is a
> personal thing.
> _______________
>
> I hope the 2014 brings the average age of the Corvette driver down
> to age
> 70. I am considerably less than that age and do not want to be seen
> driving
> 'an old man's car'.
> _______________
>
> Then don't.
> _______________
>
> Also add to the fact that GM talked the government into ****ing away
> perfectly good cash to cover for GM's management stupidity and it is
> really
> a reach for me to want to buy any GM vehicle these days.
> _______________
>
> Then don't.
> _______________
>
> I think I will keep driving my 64 convertible. Back then, GM wasn't
> the
> joke of a car company that it is now.
> _______________
>
> Who cares?
>
> AJM
> '93 40th Anniversary coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
> _______________
>
> Vito
>

You say so much with so little, good job. ;-)

  #5  
Old June 13th 11, 06:13 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
uncle_vito
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Posts: 245
Default 2014 Corvette


"Dad" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "uncle_vito" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tte/index.html
>>
>> I may actually be interested in buying a new Corvette. A smaller, higher
>> revving, variable overhead cam design with direct fuel injection may be
>> in order for 2014. The present C6 has a neanderthal pushrod V-8 and a
>> horrible interior. Also the looks are gaudy.
>>
>> I hope the 2014 brings the average age of the Corvette driver down to age
>> 70. I am considerably less than that age and do not want to be seen
>> driving 'an old man's car'.
>>
>> Also add to the fact that GM talked the government into ****ing away
>> perfectly good cash to cover for GM's management stupidity and it is
>> really a reach for me to want to buy any GM vehicle these days.
>>
>> I think I will keep driving my 64 convertible. Back then, GM wasn't the
>> joke of a car company that it is now.
>>
>> Vito

> You are Johnny on the spot to pick up this breaking news, oh wait, that
> was released as a 2011 by Left Lane News and as a 2013 by others back in
> 2009, now slipped to 2014 and I'm not betting on that being true. Even the
> obnoxious car presented as the next generation Corvette was not built by
> GM. The car will get a restyled rear end and a touch up on the front, some
> lighter material in some parts, and you will be told how nice the
> interior is but only color changes will be made. As far as VVT my guess
> would be it will still be a Neanderthal push rod engine.
>
> Sure you will buy a 2014 Corvette design being as youthful as you seem to
> think a Corvette buyer needs to be. They bring out that abortion and it
> will have a youthful price tag able to hit 70K with very few options. Just
> the car for the fast food workers budget. My guess would be that it will
> be a modified body and maybe slight frame change for the C6 with an engine
> that could be troublesome at best and under powered as a base unit. Then
> add a good power plant and the price will be astronomical, like the joke
> they called the ZR1 back in the '90s.
>
> At one time I looked forward to driving the next generation Corvettes but
> not what you describe nor the one being presented by the car rags.
>
> Let me know when you get off your ass and go drive that "gaudy" C6 to
> redline in fifth gear, or even 4th for that matter, ahh, forget that you
> couldn't handle 3rd, let alone 4th or 5th. You don't have the balls for
> that so why would you need a higher revving engine in a lighter car? I
> guess there are those that just have to own something even if they can't
> drive them. Drove the C6 to a festival in mid state this weekend in a very
> hard rain coming home, still got 29 MPG and did hit triple figures on the
> HUD once. Next day drove the '64 to a nearby rib off and was able to get
> 10 MPG and saw 60 MPH once as any of you old drivers can. Stopped at a
> friends house that was near by and there sat his '65 fuel injected coupe
> under its cover. Didn't even bother to take it one mile to the car show
> but then he's an ancient 62 years old. This week will be the '72's turn as
> it has cooled enough to drive a black car without air-conditioning. If you
> don't drive them why have them?
>
> You must wear your shoes backward to think that GM was a car company back
> when they built the '64 you have gathering dust in the corner of your
> garage. Although there are those that think the design was great it was
> one of the worst assembled cars on the market. Only it's short lived years
> of production has kept it from being another GM ghost of the past. GM has
> been ****ing away our money for years but ran it through the government
> filter this time to screw people out of more product value.
>
> Save the wave, that may be all we have left as Corvette owners,
>
> --
> Dad
> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
> 64 Red/red/white top/4spd
>
>


I will agree with you that GM can put out garbage, call it Corvette, and
'enthusiasts' (AKA GM loving lemmings) will buy it in droves. GM loves
customers like that.

That $70k car will be $20k in a few years with typical GM depreciation, then
the 'you want fries with that' younger crowd could affort it. But then
they want the Mustang because it is just as fast, looks good, is cheaper,
and can seat 4 buddies.

I would drive the 64 more but the stupid Holley dries out too quickly then
runs lousy. I have to fire the engine to fill the carb and wait 1 week for
the seals to swell enough to have the engine run properly. Tempted to put a
Q-Jet in but car would lose its originality. Gets worth more every day just
sitting there.

Try that with other vehicles. especially any made by GM.

Newer Vettes do absolutely nothing for me. Interior sucks. I do not care
how much HP that engine produces, there is nothing 'elegant' about it.
Torque peak at 4600 rpm. Sounds more like the torque peak of my Craftman
lawnmower. Not that of a performance car.

I am not in the fancy car business much anymore. I am trying to get my
ducks in a row so I can retire. I hate my job and would rather not work and
want to spend my time traveling. I am still in my mid 50's so I have to
save enough so that I can survive a few years without any Social Security,
Medicare, and 401k. I cannot tap the 401k until 59 1/2. Social Sec is 60
1/2 and medicare is 65, so I have a few years to go before I can leach onto
these government programs.

Anyway, take care, Dad. Was wondering who would reply to my rant.




  #6  
Old June 13th 11, 07:40 AM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Dad[_1_]
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Posts: 1,100
Default 2014 Corvette


"uncle_vito" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Dad" > wrote in message
> .. .
>>
>> "uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tte/index.html
>>>
>>> I may actually be interested in buying a new Corvette. A smaller,
>>> higher revving, variable overhead cam design with direct fuel
>>> injection may be in order for 2014. The present C6 has a
>>> neanderthal pushrod V-8 and a horrible interior. Also the looks
>>> are gaudy.
>>>
>>> I hope the 2014 brings the average age of the Corvette driver down
>>> to age 70. I am considerably less than that age and do not want
>>> to be seen driving 'an old man's car'.
>>>
>>> Also add to the fact that GM talked the government into ****ing
>>> away perfectly good cash to cover for GM's management stupidity
>>> and it is really a reach for me to want to buy any GM vehicle
>>> these days.
>>>
>>> I think I will keep driving my 64 convertible. Back then, GM
>>> wasn't the joke of a car company that it is now.
>>>
>>> Vito

>> You are Johnny on the spot to pick up this breaking news, oh wait,
>> that was released as a 2011 by Left Lane News and as a 2013 by
>> others back in 2009, now slipped to 2014 and I'm not betting on
>> that being true. Even the obnoxious car presented as the next
>> generation Corvette was not built by GM. The car will get a
>> restyled rear end and a touch up on the front, some lighter
>> material in some parts, and you will be told how nice the interior
>> is but only color changes will be made. As far as VVT my guess
>> would be it will still be a Neanderthal push rod engine.
>>
>> Sure you will buy a 2014 Corvette design being as youthful as you
>> seem to think a Corvette buyer needs to be. They bring out that
>> abortion and it will have a youthful price tag able to hit 70K with
>> very few options. Just the car for the fast food workers budget. My
>> guess would be that it will be a modified body and maybe slight
>> frame change for the C6 with an engine that could be troublesome at
>> best and under powered as a base unit. Then add a good power plant
>> and the price will be astronomical, like the joke they called the
>> ZR1 back in the '90s.
>>
>> At one time I looked forward to driving the next generation
>> Corvettes but not what you describe nor the one being presented by
>> the car rags.
>>
>> Let me know when you get off your ass and go drive that "gaudy" C6
>> to redline in fifth gear, or even 4th for that matter, ahh, forget
>> that you couldn't handle 3rd, let alone 4th or 5th. You don't have
>> the balls for that so why would you need a higher revving engine in
>> a lighter car? I guess there are those that just have to own
>> something even if they can't drive them. Drove the C6 to a festival
>> in mid state this weekend in a very hard rain coming home, still
>> got 29 MPG and did hit triple figures on the HUD once. Next day
>> drove the '64 to a nearby rib off and was able to get 10 MPG and
>> saw 60 MPH once as any of you old drivers can. Stopped at a friends
>> house that was near by and there sat his '65 fuel injected coupe
>> under its cover. Didn't even bother to take it one mile to the car
>> show but then he's an ancient 62 years old. This week will be the
>> '72's turn as it has cooled enough to drive a black car without
>> air-conditioning. If you don't drive them why have them?
>>
>> You must wear your shoes backward to think that GM was a car
>> company back when they built the '64 you have gathering dust in the
>> corner of your garage. Although there are those that think the
>> design was great it was one of the worst assembled cars on the
>> market. Only it's short lived years of production has kept it from
>> being another GM ghost of the past. GM has been ****ing away our
>> money for years but ran it through the government filter this time
>> to screw people out of more product value.
>>
>> Save the wave, that may be all we have left as Corvette owners,
>>
>> --
>> Dad
>> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
>> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
>> 64 Red/red/white top/4spd
>>
>>

>
> I will agree with you that GM can put out garbage, call it Corvette,
> and 'enthusiasts' (AKA GM loving lemmings) will buy it in droves.
> GM loves customers like that.


Nice dig at Corvette owners, reminds me of the Consumer Report buyers
that use no judgment at all and like you lemmings, do what they say.

> That $70k car will be $20k in a few years with typical GM
> depreciation, then the 'you want fries with that' younger crowd
> could affort it. But then they want the Mustang because it is just
> as fast, looks good, is cheaper, and can seat 4 buddies.


Wrong again gasoline breath, I've had my '05 for near 6 years and it
hasn't dropped that much yet. Actually it can't because I didn't pay
anywhere near that for it new.

> I would drive the 64 more but the stupid Holley dries out too
> quickly then runs lousy.


That's your problem, my '64 came with a Carter, works fine with new
gaskets, the new fuel will still evaporate with an open fuel systems
of the 60's. You don't drive it because you're to lazy to get it
running with todays technology and fuel.

>I have to fire the engine to fill the carb and wait 1 week for the
>seals to swell enough to have the engine run properly. Tempted to
>put a Q-Jet in but car would lose its originality. Gets worth more
>every day just sitting there.


Not really, it is deteriorating as we speak if it is not driven.

> Try that with other vehicles. especially any made by GM.
>
> Newer Vettes do absolutely nothing for me. Interior sucks. I do
> not care how much HP that engine produces, there is nothing
> 'elegant' about it.


With a 2:73 rear end you want it to peak at 8,000 RPM? You realize
that rotation speed will come about 5,500 RPM for the non-flying
Corvette? Hell's fire you can get the '64's front wheels off the
ground before that.

> Torque peak at 4600 rpm. Sounds more like the torque peak of my
> Craftman lawnmower. Not that of a performance car.


Hard for you to tell the difference between a single cylinder and a
LSX V8? Maybe you don't need to wait to retire, sounds like you can go
now on a disability.

> I am not in the fancy car business much anymore.


So you're saying now you have no intention of buying a Corvette like
you said when you started this thread? I should have known that by
what you said you were driving now.

>I am trying to get my ducks in a row so I can retire. I hate my job
>and would rather not work and want to spend my time traveling. I am
>still in my mid 50's so I have to save enough so that I can survive a
>few years without any Social Security, Medicare, and 401k. I cannot
>tap the 401k until 59 1/2.


Sure you can, you will pay a penalty but that is 100% deductible.

>Social Sec is 60 1/2 and medicare is 65, so I have a few years to go
>before I can leach onto these government programs.


Sounds like you have ****ed away to much money on foreign made junk.
Except for computers, TV's and clothes I've never done that. When the
company I worked for went to junk manufacturing off shore I left with
little to go on but kept busy at consulting for the companies that
were trying to build what we did but on dirt floors and some peddle
powered equipment. That has allot to do with the pussies in
Kalifaornicate passing the greenie laws that killed our industries.
Plus the tax laws that helped move most manufacturing to 4th world
countries. So if you hate your job it may be because of you and your
foreign designed and built car and the profits sent to Japan, ya
think?

> Anyway, take care, Dad. Was wondering who would reply to my rant.
>

You hang in there and don't screw up my income by putting more
financial burden on the SS and Medicare programs. I would hate to
break into my savings after only 10 years of retirement.

  #7  
Old June 13th 11, 01:57 PM posted to alt.autos.corvette
CardsFan
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Posts: 237
Default 2014 Corvette


"Dad" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "CardsFan" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "uncle_vito" wrote in message
>> .. .
>>
>> http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tte/index.html
>>
>> I may actually be interested in buying a new Corvette.
>> _______________
>>
>> Who cares? GM will sell as many as they want to make.
>> _______________
>>
>> A smaller, higher revving, variable overhead cam design with direct fuel
>> injection may be in
>> order for 2014. The present C6 has a neanderthal pushrod V-8 and a
>> horrible
>> interior. Also the looks are gaudy.
>> _______________
>>
>> The LS1/2/6/7 provide excellent power. Appreciation of styling is a
>> personal thing.
>> _______________
>>
>> I hope the 2014 brings the average age of the Corvette driver down to age
>> 70. I am considerably less than that age and do not want to be seen
>> driving
>> 'an old man's car'.
>> _______________
>>
>> Then don't.
>> _______________
>>
>> Also add to the fact that GM talked the government into ****ing away
>> perfectly good cash to cover for GM's management stupidity and it is
>> really
>> a reach for me to want to buy any GM vehicle these days.
>> _______________
>>
>> Then don't.
>> _______________
>>
>> I think I will keep driving my 64 convertible. Back then, GM wasn't the
>> joke of a car company that it is now.
>> _______________
>>
>> Who cares?
>>
>> AJM
>> '93 40th Anniversary coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
>> _______________
>>
>> Vito
>>

> You say so much with so little, good job. ;-)


Thanks, but I don't know what got into me. Usually I don't feed trolls.

AJM
'93 40th Anniversary coupe, 6 sp (both tops)


  #8  
Old June 13th 11, 02:23 PM posted to alt.autos.corvette
CardsFan
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Posts: 237
Default 2014 Corvette


"Dad" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "uncle_vito" > wrote in message
> .. .
>>
>> "Dad" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>>
>>> "uncle_vito" > wrote in message
>>> .. .
>>>> http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tte/index.html
>>>>
>>>> I may actually be interested in buying a new Corvette. A smaller,
>>>> higher revving, variable overhead cam design with direct fuel injection
>>>> may be in order for 2014. The present C6 has a neanderthal pushrod V-8
>>>> and a horrible interior. Also the looks are gaudy.
>>>>
>>>> I hope the 2014 brings the average age of the Corvette driver down to
>>>> age 70. I am considerably less than that age and do not want to be
>>>> seen driving 'an old man's car'.
>>>>
>>>> Also add to the fact that GM talked the government into ****ing away
>>>> perfectly good cash to cover for GM's management stupidity and it is
>>>> really a reach for me to want to buy any GM vehicle these days.
>>>>
>>>> I think I will keep driving my 64 convertible. Back then, GM wasn't
>>>> the joke of a car company that it is now.
>>>>
>>>> Vito
>>> You are Johnny on the spot to pick up this breaking news, oh wait, that
>>> was released as a 2011 by Left Lane News and as a 2013 by others back in
>>> 2009, now slipped to 2014 and I'm not betting on that being true. Even
>>> the obnoxious car presented as the next generation Corvette was not
>>> built by GM. The car will get a restyled rear end and a touch up on the
>>> front, some lighter material in some parts, and you will be told how
>>> nice the interior is but only color changes will be made. As far as VVT
>>> my guess would be it will still be a Neanderthal push rod engine.
>>>
>>> Sure you will buy a 2014 Corvette design being as youthful as you seem
>>> to think a Corvette buyer needs to be. They bring out that abortion and
>>> it will have a youthful price tag able to hit 70K with very few options.
>>> Just the car for the fast food workers budget. My guess would be that it
>>> will be a modified body and maybe slight frame change for the C6 with an
>>> engine that could be troublesome at best and under powered as a base
>>> unit. Then add a good power plant and the price will be astronomical,
>>> like the joke they called the ZR1 back in the '90s.
>>>
>>> At one time I looked forward to driving the next generation Corvettes
>>> but not what you describe nor the one being presented by the car rags.
>>>
>>> Let me know when you get off your ass and go drive that "gaudy" C6 to
>>> redline in fifth gear, or even 4th for that matter, ahh, forget that you
>>> couldn't handle 3rd, let alone 4th or 5th. You don't have the balls for
>>> that so why would you need a higher revving engine in a lighter car? I
>>> guess there are those that just have to own something even if they can't
>>> drive them. Drove the C6 to a festival in mid state this weekend in a
>>> very hard rain coming home, still got 29 MPG and did hit triple figures
>>> on the HUD once. Next day drove the '64 to a nearby rib off and was able
>>> to get 10 MPG and saw 60 MPH once as any of you old drivers can. Stopped
>>> at a friends house that was near by and there sat his '65 fuel injected
>>> coupe under its cover. Didn't even bother to take it one mile to the car
>>> show but then he's an ancient 62 years old. This week will be the '72's
>>> turn as it has cooled enough to drive a black car without
>>> air-conditioning. If you don't drive them why have them?
>>>
>>> You must wear your shoes backward to think that GM was a car company
>>> back when they built the '64 you have gathering dust in the corner of
>>> your garage. Although there are those that think the design was great it
>>> was one of the worst assembled cars on the market. Only it's short lived
>>> years of production has kept it from being another GM ghost of the past.
>>> GM has been ****ing away our money for years but ran it through the
>>> government filter this time to screw people out of more product value.
>>>
>>> Save the wave, that may be all we have left as Corvette owners,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dad
>>> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
>>> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
>>> 64 Red/red/white top/4spd
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I will agree with you that GM can put out garbage, call it Corvette, and
>> 'enthusiasts' (AKA GM loving lemmings) will buy it in droves. GM loves
>> customers like that.

>
> Nice dig at Corvette owners, reminds me of the Consumer Report buyers that
> use no judgment at all and like you lemmings, do what they say.
>
>> That $70k car will be $20k in a few years with typical GM depreciation,
>> then the 'you want fries with that' younger crowd could affort it. But
>> then they want the Mustang because it is just as fast, looks good, is
>> cheaper, and can seat 4 buddies.

>
> Wrong again gasoline breath, I've had my '05 for near 6 years and it
> hasn't dropped that much yet. Actually it can't because I didn't pay
> anywhere near that for it new.
>
>> I would drive the 64 more but the stupid Holley dries out too quickly
>> then runs lousy.

>
> That's your problem, my '64 came with a Carter, works fine with new
> gaskets, the new fuel will still evaporate with an open fuel systems of
> the 60's. You don't drive it because you're to lazy to get it running with
> todays technology and fuel.
>
>>I have to fire the engine to fill the carb and wait 1 week for the seals
>>to swell enough to have the engine run properly. Tempted to put a Q-Jet
>>in but car would lose its originality. Gets worth more every day just
>>sitting there.

>
> Not really, it is deteriorating as we speak if it is not driven.
>
>> Try that with other vehicles. especially any made by GM.
>>
>> Newer Vettes do absolutely nothing for me. Interior sucks. I do not
>> care how much HP that engine produces, there is nothing 'elegant' about
>> it.

>
> With a 2:73 rear end you want it to peak at 8,000 RPM? You realize that
> rotation speed will come about 5,500 RPM for the non-flying Corvette?
> Hell's fire you can get the '64's front wheels off the ground before that.
>
>> Torque peak at 4600 rpm. Sounds more like the torque peak of my Craftman
>> lawnmower. Not that of a performance car.

>
> Hard for you to tell the difference between a single cylinder and a LSX
> V8? Maybe you don't need to wait to retire, sounds like you can go now on
> a disability.
>
>> I am not in the fancy car business much anymore.

>
> So you're saying now you have no intention of buying a Corvette like you
> said when you started this thread? I should have known that by what you
> said you were driving now.
>
>>I am trying to get my ducks in a row so I can retire. I hate my job and
>>would rather not work and want to spend my time traveling. I am still in
>>my mid 50's so I have to save enough so that I can survive a few years
>>without any Social Security, Medicare, and 401k. I cannot tap the 401k
>>until 59 1/2.

>
> Sure you can, you will pay a penalty but that is 100% deductible.
>
>>Social Sec is 60 1/2 and medicare is 65, so I have a few years to go
>>before I can leach onto these government programs.

>
> Sounds like you have ****ed away to much money on foreign made junk.
> Except for computers, TV's and clothes I've never done that. When the
> company I worked for went to junk manufacturing off shore I left with
> little to go on but kept busy at consulting for the companies that were
> trying to build what we did but on dirt floors and some peddle powered
> equipment. That has allot to do with the pussies in Kalifaornicate passing
> the greenie laws that killed our industries. Plus the tax laws that helped
> move most manufacturing to 4th world countries. So if you hate your job it
> may be because of you and your foreign designed and built car and the
> profits sent to Japan, ya think?
>
>> Anyway, take care, Dad. Was wondering who would reply to my rant.
>>

> You hang in there and don't screw up my income by putting more financial
> burden on the SS and Medicare programs. I would hate to break into my
> savings after only 10 years of retirement.


I'm not entirely sure what age he'd have to reach to break even on those
govenment programs he says he's going to leech (note sp.) onto. Maybe he's
not smart enough to realize that at least for some time he's only recouping
what he's already put into those programs.

The American government is an insurance company that also has an army.

AJM
'93 40th Anniversary coupe, 6 sp (both tops)


  #9  
Old June 13th 11, 04:05 PM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Dad[_1_]
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"uncle_vito" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Dad" > wrote in message
> .. .
>>

Snipped posturing of both sides, more added below.

> I do agree with you on that 2014. Likely will end up being a 2011
> that has a 'new' interior just by offering a new color and a new
> badge. Same low tec pushrod engine. No variable valve timing nor
> multi valves. Why should GM spend this extra development money? GM
> Vette lemmings will buy it up in droves. That is why the Vette is
> so profitable. Gullible owners.
>

Even that little nothing change had you thinking that you might try a
C7, how shallow. Then again that does point out how you are aware of
gullible buyers, you are one.

Your need to buy a used car with high resale value is rather odd, why
pay more for less? If you drive it till the wheels fall off you can't
sell it so why look at high resale value only when you're buying?

Actually GM has had VVT in production for well over 5 years now. No
need for you to be informed, you are able to hate GM without knowing
anything. Plus that low tech you seem to dislike has more power with
less fuel than the complex hi tech answer to a question that wasn't
ask. Lets see, cam shaft, that's what a friend of mine makes in
Michigan, about 27,000 a week and as far as an aluminum engine goes a
large number of my family has worked in a near by GM foundry that
casts a large percentage of "L" series aluminum engines, others were
made there as far back as 1959. By the way even the oil pan is cast
aluminum along with most mounting brackets to help it remain one of
the quietest running engines on the market today.

You can buy the hand me downs but I'll drive what I prefer when I
decide to and enjoy them then, not when they can qualify as a clown
car and/or a fart factory.

You may want to forget about hating GM and apply that energy towards
being happy, life is so much easier when you're not burning it up with
hate and discontent. A cheery outlook on life may even get you to a
job that pays enough to meet your retirement goals sooner. Could even
get you moved up from the deep fat fryer to the order counter. ;-))

This lemming needs to go out and polish up the black one so I can go
to the cruse in tomorrow night, I'll let you know how many clown cars
are there that some pimply faced loser thinks is hot.

  #10  
Old June 13th 11, 06:37 PM posted to alt.autos.corvette
Jim H
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On 6/12/2011 10:13 PM, uncle_vito wrote:
> > wrote in message
> .. .
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>> http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...tte/index.html
>>>
>>> I may actually be interested in buying a new Corvette. A smaller, higher
>>> revving, variable overhead cam design with direct fuel injection may be
>>> in order for 2014. The present C6 has a neanderthal pushrod V-8 and a
>>> horrible interior. Also the looks are gaudy.
>>>
>>> I hope the 2014 brings the average age of the Corvette driver down to age
>>> 70. I am considerably less than that age and do not want to be seen
>>> driving 'an old man's car'.
>>>
>>> Also add to the fact that GM talked the government into ****ing away
>>> perfectly good cash to cover for GM's management stupidity and it is
>>> really a reach for me to want to buy any GM vehicle these days.
>>>
>>> I think I will keep driving my 64 convertible. Back then, GM wasn't the
>>> joke of a car company that it is now.
>>>
>>> Vito

>> You are Johnny on the spot to pick up this breaking news, oh wait, that
>> was released as a 2011 by Left Lane News and as a 2013 by others back in
>> 2009, now slipped to 2014 and I'm not betting on that being true. Even the
>> obnoxious car presented as the next generation Corvette was not built by
>> GM. The car will get a restyled rear end and a touch up on the front, some
>> lighter material in some parts, and you will be told how nice the
>> interior is but only color changes will be made. As far as VVT my guess
>> would be it will still be a Neanderthal push rod engine.
>>
>> Sure you will buy a 2014 Corvette design being as youthful as you seem to
>> think a Corvette buyer needs to be. They bring out that abortion and it
>> will have a youthful price tag able to hit 70K with very few options. Just
>> the car for the fast food workers budget. My guess would be that it will
>> be a modified body and maybe slight frame change for the C6 with an engine
>> that could be troublesome at best and under powered as a base unit. Then
>> add a good power plant and the price will be astronomical, like the joke
>> they called the ZR1 back in the '90s.
>>
>> At one time I looked forward to driving the next generation Corvettes but
>> not what you describe nor the one being presented by the car rags.
>>
>> Let me know when you get off your ass and go drive that "gaudy" C6 to
>> redline in fifth gear, or even 4th for that matter, ahh, forget that you
>> couldn't handle 3rd, let alone 4th or 5th. You don't have the balls for
>> that so why would you need a higher revving engine in a lighter car? I
>> guess there are those that just have to own something even if they can't
>> drive them. Drove the C6 to a festival in mid state this weekend in a very
>> hard rain coming home, still got 29 MPG and did hit triple figures on the
>> HUD once. Next day drove the '64 to a nearby rib off and was able to get
>> 10 MPG and saw 60 MPH once as any of you old drivers can. Stopped at a
>> friends house that was near by and there sat his '65 fuel injected coupe
>> under its cover. Didn't even bother to take it one mile to the car show
>> but then he's an ancient 62 years old. This week will be the '72's turn as
>> it has cooled enough to drive a black car without air-conditioning. If you
>> don't drive them why have them?
>>
>> You must wear your shoes backward to think that GM was a car company back
>> when they built the '64 you have gathering dust in the corner of your
>> garage. Although there are those that think the design was great it was
>> one of the worst assembled cars on the market. Only it's short lived years
>> of production has kept it from being another GM ghost of the past. GM has
>> been ****ing away our money for years but ran it through the government
>> filter this time to screw people out of more product value.
>>
>> Save the wave, that may be all we have left as Corvette owners,
>>
>> --
>> Dad
>> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
>> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
>> 64 Red/red/white top/4spd
>>
>>

>
> I will agree with you that GM can put out garbage, call it Corvette, and
> 'enthusiasts' (AKA GM loving lemmings) will buy it in droves. GM loves
> customers like that.
>
> That $70k car will be $20k in a few years with typical GM depreciation, then
> the 'you want fries with that' younger crowd could affort it. But then
> they want the Mustang because it is just as fast, looks good, is cheaper,
> and can seat 4 buddies.
>
> I would drive the 64 more but the stupid Holley dries out too quickly then
> runs lousy. I have to fire the engine to fill the carb and wait 1 week for
> the seals to swell enough to have the engine run properly. Tempted to put a
> Q-Jet in but car would lose its originality. Gets worth more every day just
> sitting there.
>
> Try that with other vehicles. especially any made by GM.
>
> Newer Vettes do absolutely nothing for me. Interior sucks. I do not care
> how much HP that engine produces, there is nothing 'elegant' about it.
> Torque peak at 4600 rpm. Sounds more like the torque peak of my Craftman
> lawnmower. Not that of a performance car.
>
> I am not in the fancy car business much anymore. I am trying to get my
> ducks in a row so I can retire. I hate my job and would rather not work and
> want to spend my time traveling. I am still in my mid 50's so I have to
> save enough so that I can survive a few years without any Social Security,
> Medicare, and 401k. I cannot tap the 401k until 59 1/2. Social Sec is 60
> 1/2 and medicare is 65, so I have a few years to go before I can leach onto
> these government programs.
>
> Anyway, take care, Dad. Was wondering who would reply to my rant.
>
>
>
>


I retired early at 56, and I've been retired for 5 years now. Social
Security is not available at 60 1/2. Early SS is available at 62. It is
reduced by about 25% at that age. If you are tapping your 401K at 59
1/2, you will probably run out of money at some point. If you do take
money out, you should only take 4% per year. Also, don't forget that it
is taxed as income. I'm hoping to hold out until I must take
distributions at 70 1/2.

I love my '93 40th Anniversary Vette. It still drives like new, with
just over 70K miles, and brand new Goodyear tires. But, I really like
the C6 also.

--
Jim
 




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