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Automatic vs. Manual transmission
Okay, I'm going to NOT take this out of context. Here is sentence one:
> a lot of auto transmissions in domestics are designed to fail after > given mileages. * Sentence two: > there's nothing inherently less reliable in an auto as > far as the drivetrain is concerned Wha.....what!? A slushbox -designed with a limited lifetime- is not inherently less reliable than a standard gearbox? You're one of them 'special' kind of stupid folks huh? :-) Have a good one, and uhh..thanks for the chuckle, smart guy. Chris |
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Automatic vs. Manual transmission
On 04/14/2011 07:17 PM, Hal wrote:
> Okay, I'm going to NOT take this out of context. Here is sentence one: > >> a lot of auto transmissions in domestics are designed to fail after >> given mileages. � > > Sentence two: > >> there's nothing inherently less reliable in an auto as >> far as the drivetrain is concerned > > Wha.....what!? A slushbox -designed with a limited lifetime- is not > inherently less reliable than a standard gearbox? > > You're one of them 'special' kind of stupid folks huh? :-) > > Have a good one, and uhh..thanks for the chuckle, smart guy. > > Chris er, "nothing inherent" means it's not liable to fail on its own - you have to design it to. sticks can be caused to fail too, it's just harder and more expensive to implement. [assuming you subscribe to the fallacy that a stick's clutch wearing out in the same time frame as an auto doesn't make them directly comparable.] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve manufacturers have spent billions in pursuit of bathtub curves they can actually define. -- nomina rutrum rutrum |
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Automatic vs. Manual transmission
Automatics are better than they used to be -- more efficient, more
gears (implying a better chance of being in the right one), fairly cleverly computer controlled. I haven't seen a test of the 6-speed-automatic Fiesta, but even the 5- speed automatic only gave up 1 mpg city, 2 highway to the manual, so I'm guessing it'll be about a wash except maybe in the hands, and feet, of a skilled "hypermiler." You can also get a $700 Special Fuel Economy option on SE models of both the sedan and the hatchback. It cleans up aerodynamic detailing on and under (yes, under) the car. Supposedly this buys you 2 mpg highway (aerodynamics being much more important at highway speeds). The EPA rating for a 2011 SFE Fiesta with automatic (doesn't say *which* automatic but I'm betting on the 6-speed) is 29 city/40 highway, which is best in the subcompact class and not exactly chopped liver for any car that isn't either a hybrid or a diesel. I'd recommend the manual if she can only afford a base model, or drives on mountain roads a lot, or just prefers to row her own -- AND knows how to do this properly. For city-dominated driving, or people whose stick-and-clutch skills are unschooled, an automatic is the way to go and the 6-speed is preferable if the money works out. SFE package? The ratio of city to highway driving would have a lot to do with the payback time on that $800 investment. I haven't driven one but the magazines make me think it's a neat little car. Best of luck, --Joe > It's been well known a manual transmission obtains better fuel mileage than > an automatic. My sister is preparing to purchase a Ford Fiesta and wants a > manual, mainly for the fuel savings. The sales guy indicated the new > transmissions (more so the 6 speed auto in the Fiesta) are better and more > fuel efficient than manuals. Anyone know if this is true? |
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