Impala owners sue GM over tire wear

http://www.impomag.com/scripts/ShowPR.asp?RID=18033&et_

bob

On Jul 6, 2:11*pm, bob urz > wrote:
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>
> bob

I'm shocked, shocked I say...

well, no I'm not. Impalas are notorious tire eaters.

It's a blessing in disguise though, as the stock Goodyear tires are so
tractionless as to be a hazard.

nate

bob urz wrote:
> http://www.impomag.com/scripts/ShowPR.asp?RID=18033&et_
>
> bob

Out of curiosity I just spent 25 minutes searching for what is
actually wrong and could find no descriptions at all.
Just a lot of complaints.

On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:18:34 -0700 (PDT), N8N >
wrote:

>On Jul 6, 2:11*pm, bob urz > wrote:
>> http://www.impomag.com/scripts/ShowPR.asp?RID=18033&et_
>>
>> bob
>
>I'm shocked, shocked I say...
>
>well, no I'm not. Impalas are notorious tire eaters.
>
>It's a blessing in disguise though, as the stock Goodyear tires are so
>tractionless as to be a hazard.
>
I just bought a new Toyota Corolla and one condition of the vehicle
search was "No Goodyear tires will be accepted."
Got Continentals and so far so good..
--
Mr.E

On 7/6/2011 6:28 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
> bob urz wrote:
>> http://www.impomag.com/scripts/ShowPR.asp?RID=18033&et_
>>
>> bob
>
> Out of curiosity I just spent 25 minutes searching for what is
> actually wrong and could find no descriptions at all.
> Just a lot of complaints.

Complaints of excessive rear end tire wear on 2007-2008 Chevrolet
Impala's has lead to a class action law suit to be filed against GM in a
federal court in Detroit. Over 400,000 Impala's were sold in the two
year period which could lead to millions in replacement tires and parts
for GM if the suit is successful. According to the suit, GM issued a
technical service bulletin (TSB) in 2008 (#10026504) to fix the problem
only on police versions on the Impala. In 2010, a TSB (#10037807) was
issued stating that the rear tires are wearing or appear to be out of
alignment in many 2007-2011 Impalas, but a recall still was not issued

Technical Service Bulletin #PIC-5406

This 2007 CHEVROLET IMPALA Technical Service Bulletin affects the 190000
TIRES
NHTSA #10037807
Date Of Bulletin

20101201
Failing Component Name

190000 TIRES
Description

GM: THE REAR TIRES ARE WEARING OR APPEAR TO BE OUT OF ALIGNMENT.
2007-2011 IMPALA. *RM



your camber bolts need top be replaced. Im telling you, i have go
through all 4 tires with this issue. I rotate every 6000 miles and get
alignments often.. I handed them the police TSB Number:08032 and told
them i got to have this. I don't care if its only for the police
package, i find it bull. After much complaining they replaced the camber
bolts and no problems 15,000 miles later



The Impalas have faulty spindle rods, which cause problems with the rear
suspension. [14] The wear has allegedly been attributed to faulty rods
in the rear suspension linkage. [7]

The recall involved dealers realigning the rear wheels, replacing the
rods, and replacing worn tires if necessary. [7] Police agencies that
had replaced rear tires themselves could seek reimbursement for a year. [4]


http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/a...ear.html#hdng2

guess you were looking in the wrong places...

bob

On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 19:58:54 -0400, Mr.E wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 13:18:34 -0700 (PDT), N8N >
> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 6, 2:11Â*pm, bob urz > wrote:
>>> http://www.impomag.com/scripts/ShowPR.asp?RID=18033&et_
>>>
>>> bob
>>
>>I'm shocked, shocked I say...
>>
>>well, no I'm not. Impalas are notorious tire eaters.
>>
>>It's a blessing in disguise though, as the stock Goodyear tires are so
>>tractionless as to be a hazard.
>>
> I just bought a new Toyota Corolla and one condition of the vehicle
> search was "No Goodyear tires will be accepted."
> Got Continentals and so far so good..


Bought a new Corolla in 1980 with Bridgestones.

Changed them 4 years later with 125,000 miles on the car. They still had
tread.

Bridgestone does not make that model anymore. I wonder why....

bob urz wrote:
> On 7/6/2011 6:28 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
>> bob urz wrote:
>>> http://www.impomag.com/scripts/ShowPR.asp?RID=18033&et_
>>>
>>> bob
>>
>> Out of curiosity I just spent 25 minutes searching for what is
>> actually wrong and could find no descriptions at all.
>> Just a lot of complaints.
>
> Complaints of excessive rear end tire wear on 2007-2008 Chevrolet
> Impala's has lead to a class action law suit to be filed against GM in a
> federal court in Detroit. Over 400,000 Impala's were sold in the two
> year period which could lead to millions in replacement tires and parts
> for GM if the suit is successful. According to the suit, GM issued a
> technical service bulletin (TSB) in 2008 (#10026504) to fix the problem
> only on police versions on the Impala. In 2010, a TSB (#10037807) was
> issued stating that the rear tires are wearing or appear to be out of
> alignment in many 2007-2011 Impalas, but a recall still was not issued
>
> Technical Service Bulletin #PIC-5406
>
> This 2007 CHEVROLET IMPALA Technical Service Bulletin affects the 190000
> TIRES
> NHTSA #10037807
> Date Of Bulletin
>
> 20101201
> Failing Component Name
>
> 190000 TIRES
> Description
>
> GM: THE REAR TIRES ARE WEARING OR APPEAR TO BE OUT OF ALIGNMENT.
> 2007-2011 IMPALA. *RM
>
>
>
> your camber bolts need top be replaced. Im telling you, i have go
> through all 4 tires with this issue. I rotate every 6000 miles and get
> alignments often.. I handed them the police TSB Number:08032 and told
> them i got to have this. I don't care if its only for the police
> package, i find it bull. After much complaining they replaced the camber
> bolts and no problems 15,000 miles later
>
> The Impalas have faulty spindle rods, which cause problems with the rear
> suspension. [14] The wear has allegedly been attributed to faulty rods
> in the rear suspension linkage. [7]
>
> The recall involved dealers realigning the rear wheels, replacing the
> rods, and replacing worn tires if necessary. [7] Police agencies that
> had replaced rear tires themselves could seek reimbursement for a year. [4]
>
>
> http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/a...ear.html#hdng2
>
>
> guess you were looking in the wrong places...
>
> bob

I read that article but did not see any explanation of
what actually causes the problem.
Do the spindles get bent?
Do the camber bolts get worn out?
Its hard for me to imagine bolts wearing out.
Do they move?
Do the bolts get bent?
Bushings deteriorate?

>> I just bought a new Toyota Corolla and one condition of the vehicle
>> search was "No Goodyear tires will be accepted."
>> Got Continentals and so far so good..
>
>Bought a new Corolla in 1980 with Bridgestones.
>
>Changed them 4 years later with 125,000 miles on the car. They still had
>tread.
>
>Bridgestone does not make that model anymore. I wonder why....

All of the tire companies make good tires and bad tires.

For the most part, the tires that the car manufacturers put on are not the
good ones. Sounds like someone got lucky once, though.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On 7/7/2011 12:40 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
> bob urz wrote:
>> On 7/6/2011 6:28 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
>>> bob urz wrote:
>>>> http://www.impomag.com/scripts/ShowPR.asp?RID=18033&et_
>>>>
>

>>
>> bob
>
> I read that article but did not see any explanation of
> what actually causes the problem.
> Do the spindles get bent?
> Do the camber bolts get worn out?
> Its hard for me to imagine bolts wearing out.
> Do they move?
> Do the bolts get bent?
> Bushings deteriorate?
>
http://www.phila.gov/fleet/Warranty%...20bulletin.pdf

http://detnews.com/article/20110705/...es-to-wear-out

"bob urz" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/7/2011 12:40 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
>> bob urz wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2011 6:28 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
>>>> bob urz wrote:
>>>>> http://www.impomag.com/scripts/ShowPR.asp?RID=18033&et_
>
>>> bob
>>
>> I read that article but did not see any explanation of
>> what actually causes the problem.
>> Do the spindles get bent?
>> Do the camber bolts get worn out?
>> Its hard for me to imagine bolts wearing out.
>> Do they move?
>> Do the bolts get bent?
>> Bushings deteriorate?
>>
> http://www.phila.gov/fleet/Warranty%...20bulletin.pdf
> http://detnews.com/article/20110705/...es-to-wear-out

Good information although neither link actually
describes the failure mechanism, they only speak
to a requiremnt that the spindle rods be replaced.