Recommendation on place to change timing belt?

Thus spake AZ Nomad > :

>On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:20:35 -0400, Tony Harding > wrote:
>>AZ Nomad wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:09:10 -0500, Pszemol > wrote:
>>>> "AZ Nomad" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:11:41 -0400, MLD > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a 2003 Honda Accord EXV6. Does anyone have any recommendations
>>>>>>> on a place to take it for the timing belt/water pump change in
>>>>>>> Chicagoland area. I called Schaumburg Honda and they quoted $1075!
>>>>>>> Seems steep, but maybe that's how much this stuff goes for nowadays.
>>>>>>> I prefer Dealer, but would consider an independant if I see a lot of
>>>>>>> folks recommending one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Shaj
>>>>>> Highway robbery!! timing belt, water pump, drive belts, coolant etc
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be in the range of $600 to $800 depending on where it's done--and that
>>>>>> includes dealers. Get on the phone and call several dealers, you'll be
>>>>>> surprised at the variance in prices.
>>>>>> MLD
>>>>> I bet that $1075 includes a pile of other work outside the timing belt and
>>>>> water pump.
>>>
>>>> And there is a big chanse that a dealer quoting $800 over the phone
>>>> will find a way to convince you of doing something else and totaling >$1000.
>>>
>>>> I am so glad my 2004 4-cyl does not have a timing belt... :-)
>>>
>>> pushrods? I've also heard of timing chains breaking at < 120K miles.
>>> It would be nice if the engines didn't self destruct after a belt/chain
>>> failure.
>>>
>>> I once had a pontiac lemans (korean version) that broke a belt and
>>> survived without any valve damage.
>
>>Okay, but you still had a Pontiac LeMans.
>
>Please. It's hard enough even admitting to it. It was down on my luck and
>those were tough times. I took what I could get.
>
>At least I didn't own a ford.

I once owned a Ford. Galaxie 500 with a 427 Y block and a C6. Pretty
much dominated my class (I think it was C/SA). Then I started driving
real race cars. Things that burned nitro and such.

On Oct 28, 10:39*am, AZ Nomad > wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:52:29 -0500, jim beam > wrote:
> >On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:18:10 -0700, M.M. wrote:
> >> jim beam wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:26:18 -0700, M.M. wrote:
>
> >>>> Dano58 wrote:
> >>>>> On Oct 22, 10:20 pm, jim beam > wrote:
> >>>>>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch
> >>>>>> either. technically, they're a much superior solution. *chains are
> >>>>>> only good for whiners that don't understand, and are happy having
> >>>>>> their engines' performance degrade faster.
> >>>>> What is the 'proper maintenance' for a timing belt?
>
> >>>> Replace it every 60k miles...
>
> >>> suggest you double-check that number - a factory civic belt is 105k
> >>> miles.
>
> >> Whatever...the point is that 'proper maintenance' = 'replacement'
> >meaning what? *do you think belts should last forever?
>
> I think if you look back on the thread, you and jim are argueing the same
> side, other than nitpicking about replacement schedules.
>
> It was Dano who asked what "proper maintenance" was, as if you
> could make a belt last forever by lovingly applying snake oil
> twice a year.

Hang on a sec - jim beam mentioned 'proper maintenance ' of a belt, I
merely asked what that was, as I had never heard of maintaining a
timing belt. So, please read threads properly before implying
something. I don't see how you get that stupid statement about snake
oil out of my simple question, AZ.

Personally, I am of the 'replace a timing belt between 60k - 80k
miles' school, regardless of the manufacturers recommendation.

Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:08 -0700, Dano58 wrote:

> On Oct 28, 10:39Â*am, AZ Nomad > wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:52:29 -0500, jim beam
>> > wrote:
>> >On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:18:10 -0700, M.M. wrote:
>> >> jim beam wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:26:18 -0700, M.M. wrote:
>>
>> >>>> Dano58 wrote:
>> >>>>> On Oct 22, 10:20 pm, jim beam > wrote:
>> >>>>>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch
>> >>>>>> either. technically, they're a much superior solution. Â*chains
>> >>>>>> are only good for whiners that don't understand, and are happy
>> >>>>>> having their engines' performance degrade faster.
>> >>>>> What is the 'proper maintenance' for a timing belt?
>>
>> >>>> Replace it every 60k miles...
>>
>> >>> suggest you double-check that number - a factory civic belt is 105k
>> >>> miles.
>>
>> >> Whatever...the point is that 'proper maintenance' = 'replacement'
>> >meaning what? Â*do you think belts should last forever?
>>
>> I think if you look back on the thread, you and jim are argueing the
>> same side, other than nitpicking about replacement schedules.
>>
>> It was Dano who asked what "proper maintenance" was, as if you could
>> make a belt last forever by lovingly applying snake oil twice a year.
>
> Hang on a sec - jim beam mentioned 'proper maintenance ' of a belt, I
> merely asked what that was, as I had never heard of maintaining a timing
> belt. So, please read threads properly before implying something. I
> don't see how you get that stupid statement about snake oil out of my
> simple question, AZ.

the belt replacement schedule is in the service manuals for these vehicles.



>
> Personally, I am of the 'replace a timing belt between 60k - 80k miles'
> school, regardless of the manufacturers recommendation.
>

based on what? do you know something the manufacturer doesn't? assuming
you're using oem belts of course.

AZ Nomad wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:20:35 -0400, Tony Harding > wrote:
>> AZ Nomad wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:09:10 -0500, Pszemol > wrote:
>>>> "AZ Nomad" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:11:41 -0400, MLD > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a 2003 Honda Accord EXV6. Does anyone have any recommendations
>>>>>>> on a place to take it for the timing belt/water pump change in
>>>>>>> Chicagoland area. I called Schaumburg Honda and they quoted $1075!
>>>>>>> Seems steep, but maybe that's how much this stuff goes for nowadays.
>>>>>>> I prefer Dealer, but would consider an independant if I see a lot of
>>>>>>> folks recommending one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Shaj
>>>>>> Highway robbery!! timing belt, water pump, drive belts, coolant etc
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be in the range of $600 to $800 depending on where it's done--and that
>>>>>> includes dealers. Get on the phone and call several dealers, you'll be
>>>>>> surprised at the variance in prices.
>>>>>> MLD
>>>>> I bet that $1075 includes a pile of other work outside the timing belt and
>>>>> water pump.
>>>> And there is a big chanse that a dealer quoting $800 over the phone
>>>> will find a way to convince you of doing something else and totaling >$1000.
>>>> I am so glad my 2004 4-cyl does not have a timing belt... :-)
>>> pushrods? I've also heard of timing chains breaking at < 120K miles.
>>> It would be nice if the engines didn't self destruct after a belt/chain
>>> failure.
>>>
>>> I once had a pontiac lemans (korean version) that broke a belt and
>>> survived without any valve damage.
>
>> Okay, but you still had a Pontiac LeMans.
>
> Please. It's hard enough even admitting to it. It was down on my luck and
> those were tough times. I took what I could get.
>
> At least I didn't own a ford.

Okay, you're off the hook.

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On Oct 29, 11:05*pm, jim beam > wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:08 -0700, Dano58 wrote:
> > On Oct 28, 10:39*am, AZ Nomad > wrote:
> >> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:52:29 -0500, jim beam
> >> > wrote:
> >> >On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:18:10 -0700, M.M. wrote:
> >> >> jim beam wrote:
> >> >>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:26:18 -0700, M.M. wrote:
>
> >> >>>> Dano58 wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Oct 22, 10:20 pm, jim beam > wrote:
> >> >>>>>> properly maintained belts don't break, and they don't stretch
> >> >>>>>> either. technically, they're a much superior solution. *chains
> >> >>>>>> are only good for whiners that don't understand, and are happy
> >> >>>>>> having their engines' performance degrade faster.
> >> >>>>> What is the 'proper maintenance' for a timing belt?
>
> >> >>>> Replace it every 60k miles...
>
> >> >>> suggest you double-check that number - a factory civic belt is 105k
> >> >>> miles.
>
> >> >> Whatever...the point is that 'proper maintenance' = 'replacement'
> >> >meaning what? *do you think belts should last forever?
>
> >> I think if you look back on the thread, you and jim are argueing the
> >> same side, other than nitpicking about replacement schedules.
>
> >> It was Dano who asked what "proper maintenance" was, as if you could
> >> make a belt last forever by lovingly applying snake oil twice a year.
>
> > Hang on a sec - jim beam mentioned 'proper maintenance ' of a belt, I
> > merely asked what that was, as I had never heard of maintaining a timing
> > belt. So, please read threads properly before implying something. I
> > don't see how you get that stupid statement about snake oil out of my
> > simple question, AZ.
>
> the belt replacement schedule is in the service manuals for these vehicles.
>
>
>
> > Personally, I am of the 'replace a timing belt between 60k - 80k miles'
> > school, regardless of the manufacturers recommendation.
>
> based on what? *do you know something the manufacturer doesn't? *assuming
> you're using oem belts of course.

Based on personal the experience of having one break early and ruining
an engine. But I'd still appreciate you addressing my question
regarding 'proper maintenance' - or were you just being sarcastic and
you really meant 'maintenance = replacement'?

Dan D