For Sale: ECCI CDS 2000 system

I'm selling my ECCI CDS 2000 wheel/pedal system. I purchased it new in Feb
96 and it is still as rock solid as the day it arrived. My only reason for
letting it go is to upgrade to a new ECCI system. I'm in Vancouver, British
Columbia. Buyer pays shipping. Asking $350 U.S.

Don Scurlock

(604)988-1976

Don Scurlock wrote:
> I'm selling my ECCI CDS 2000 wheel/pedal system. I purchased it new in Feb
> 96 and it is still as rock solid as the day it arrived. My only reason for
> letting it go is to upgrade to a new ECCI system. I'm in Vancouver, British
> Columbia. Buyer pays shipping. Asking $350 U.S.

Ah, you've turned the need for USB into an excuse for a whole new
system, I was thinking along the same lines. Well done sir.

Don McCorkle

Woodie83 > wrote in
:

> Don Scurlock wrote:
>> I'm selling my ECCI CDS 2000 wheel/pedal system. I purchased it new
>> in Feb 96 and it is still as rock solid as the day it arrived. My
>> only reason for letting it go is to upgrade to a new ECCI system. I'm
>> in Vancouver, British Columbia. Buyer pays shipping. Asking $350
>> U.S.
>
> Ah, you've turned the need for USB into an excuse for a whole new
> system, I was thinking along the same lines. Well done sir.
>
> Don McCorkle


I could have easily upgraded it to usb for a 100 buck Canadian with
this:http://www.betainnovations.com/ ,which is the same thing as ECCIs HD-
USB Ultra upgrade, and ECCI sells a paddle shifter kit for it. So for a
couple hundred I could have got everything I wanted, instead I'm spending
close to $1,600 !
Glass of wine, credit card, online shopping, dangerous combination

DonS

Ooh! nice one Don, the whole kit and caboodle, as they say over here.

I'm going to give BRD until their clock counts down to decide on a Speed 7
Wheel.

http://www.teambrd.co.uk/

Andi.

"Don Scurlock" > wrote in message
...
> Woodie83 > wrote in
> :
>
>> Don Scurlock wrote:
>>> I'm selling my ECCI CDS 2000 wheel/pedal system. I purchased it new
>>> in Feb 96 and it is still as rock solid as the day it arrived. My
>>> only reason for letting it go is to upgrade to a new ECCI system. I'm
>>> in Vancouver, British Columbia. Buyer pays shipping. Asking $350
>>> U.S.
>>
>> Ah, you've turned the need for USB into an excuse for a whole new
>> system, I was thinking along the same lines. Well done sir.
>>
>> Don McCorkle
>
>
> I could have easily upgraded it to usb for a 100 buck Canadian with
> this:http://www.betainnovations.com/ ,which is the same thing as ECCIs HD-
> USB Ultra upgrade, and ECCI sells a paddle shifter kit for it. So for a
> couple hundred I could have got everything I wanted, instead I'm spending
> close to $1,600 !
> Glass of wine, credit card, online shopping, dangerous combination
>
> DonS
>
>

"Andi Cole" > wrote in
:

> Ooh! nice one Don, the whole kit and caboodle, as they say over here.
>
> I'm going to give BRD until their clock counts down to decide on a
> Speed 7 Wheel.
>
> http://www.teambrd.co.uk/
>
> Andi.


Almost the whole kit Andi, everything except the clutch, which I think is
on the way out even in real cars. The BRD stuff looks very nice, and not
having to ship across the pond is a real plus. It will be interesting to
see if they finally crack the perfect force feedback nut. kinda mesmerizing
watching that clock count down
Don

Hi Don. I wouldnt count on Force Feedback improving much. Immersion Corp
owns the patent on any device that connects to a computer that provides
tactile feedback. Having this control has pretty much kept any new ideas or
technology from actually making Force Feedback better. Immersion hasnt
really done anything in PC gaming in what almost 10 years? Yet if anyone
else tries the hordes of Immersions POS lawyers will soon be a knocking...

It's really insane that the Patent office could give such a broad patent to
anyone for anything but Immersion obviously contributed to the some
California democrats election at some point and we've all suffered since....

People constantly whine and complain about MS and its "fabled" monopoly but
at least they occasionally improve the products they sell. YOU have the
choice not to use any MS product as well. You don;t have any option for any
other FF devices except Immersions crap...

</rant>

Mitch




"Don Scurlock" > wrote in message
It will be interesting to
> see if they finally crack the perfect force feedback nut. kinda
> mesmerizing
> watching that clock count down
> Don

Sad but true.

Andi.

"Mitch_A" > wrote in message
. net...
> Hi Don. I wouldnt count on Force Feedback improving much. Immersion Corp
> owns the patent on any device that connects to a computer that provides
> tactile feedback. Having this control has pretty much kept any new ideas
> or technology from actually making Force Feedback better. Immersion hasnt
> really done anything in PC gaming in what almost 10 years? Yet if anyone
> else tries the hordes of Immersions POS lawyers will soon be a knocking...
>
> It's really insane that the Patent office could give such a broad patent
> to anyone for anything but Immersion obviously contributed to the some
> California democrats election at some point and we've all suffered
> since....
>
> People constantly whine and complain about MS and its "fabled" monopoly
> but at least they occasionally improve the products they sell. YOU have
> the choice not to use any MS product as well. You don;t have any option
> for any other FF devices except Immersions crap...
>
> </rant>
>
> Mitch
>
>
>
>
> "Don Scurlock" > wrote in message
> It will be interesting to
>> see if they finally crack the perfect force feedback nut. kinda
>> mesmerizing
>> watching that clock count down
>> Don
>
>

>
> "Mitch_A" > wrote in message
> . net...
>> Hi Don. I wouldnt count on Force Feedback improving much. Immersion Corp
>> owns the patent on any device that connects to a computer that provides
>> tactile feedback. Having this control has pretty much kept any new ideas
>> or technology from actually making Force Feedback better. Immersion hasnt
>> really done anything in PC gaming in what almost 10 years? Yet if anyone
>> else tries the hordes of Immersions POS lawyers will soon be a knocking...

dunno if you read the speed 7 preview in ASS a couple of issues ago, but
it was quite positive. As for your "patent office" conspiracy theory, I
guess everyone has his pet evil organizations (I know I have mine

cheers, uwe


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What's odd is I don't think there has ever been a 'real' photo of it, only
drawiungs. ASS used the picture currently on the new BRD site but that's
only a 3D image. Why no pictures?

Andi.


"Uwe Schürkamp" > wrote in message
...
> >
>> "Mitch_A" > wrote in message
>> . net...
>>> Hi Don. I wouldnt count on Force Feedback improving much. Immersion
>>> Corp
>>> owns the patent on any device that connects to a computer that provides
>>> tactile feedback. Having this control has pretty much kept any new
>>> ideas
>>> or technology from actually making Force Feedback better. Immersion
>>> hasnt
>>> really done anything in PC gaming in what almost 10 years? Yet if
>>> anyone
>>> else tries the hordes of Immersions POS lawyers will soon be a
>>> knocking...
>
> dunno if you read the speed 7 preview in ASS a couple of issues ago, but
> it was quite positive. As for your "patent office" conspiracy theory, I
> guess everyone has his pet evil organizations (I know I have mine
>
> cheers, uwe
>
>
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No I didnt read ASS but tell me, is BRD paying a royalty to Immersion Corp
on every unit sold? Are they using the same API that they've been using for
10 years? I can't say myself but I'd bet they are if Immersions track
record is any indication.

Believe what you want. I use facts and evidence to come to my conclusion
not wishful thinking and political correctness....

Mitch

"Uwe Schürkamp" > wrote in message
...
> >
>> "Mitch_A" > wrote in message
>> . net...
>>> Hi Don. I wouldnt count on Force Feedback improving much. Immersion
>>> Corp
>>> owns the patent on any device that connects to a computer that provides
>>> tactile feedback. Having this control has pretty much kept any new
>>> ideas
>>> or technology from actually making Force Feedback better. Immersion
>>> hasnt
>>> really done anything in PC gaming in what almost 10 years? Yet if
>>> anyone
>>> else tries the hordes of Immersions POS lawyers will soon be a
>>> knocking...
>
> dunno if you read the speed 7 preview in ASS a couple of issues ago, but
> it was quite positive. As for your "patent office" conspiracy theory, I
> guess everyone has his pet evil organizations (I know I have mine
>
> cheers, uwe
>
>
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