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People who buy them in my area, get them for the HOV lanes. A person at
work has one and I asked him about the mileage, he told me he did not care about the mileage, be bought the car for the HOV lanes. If not for the HOV lanes, they would not sell as good as they do now around here (Northern VA) Gary "muzz" > wrote in message news >I have read several posts about the Civic hybrid. We have had ours for > a year now.After a thousand miles, with the a/c off, I was averaging > 34 mpg. I took it back to the dealer and complained. They said that > since it only had 1000 miles, the mileage figure was not what is to be > expected, and after a good break-in (he suggested 4000 miles), we > should be getting close to the EPA 46/48. We therefore drove the Civic > on a 2000 mile interstate trip to get the mileage up. We averaged 40.6 > on the interstate trip. We now have almost 5000 miles on the car, and > the last two tanks averaged 33 mpg. I think that is ridiculous. If we > were getting 43, I would feel scammed, but good night, 33? It's > really a crime. Can't wait to see what the dealer says when I take it > back in a few weeks for service. > > I also get very disgusted when some say that it's the way people drive > that is the problem. We live in flat-land and drive it normally > without rabbit starts etc. 33 is disgusting. > > > |
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"muzz" > wrote in message news > I have read several posts about the Civic hybrid. We have had ours for > a year now.After a thousand miles, with the a/c off, I was averaging > 34 mpg. I took it back to the dealer and complained. They said that > since it only had 1000 miles, the mileage figure was not what is to be > expected, and after a good break-in (he suggested 4000 miles), we > should be getting close to the EPA 46/48. We therefore drove the Civic > on a 2000 mile interstate trip to get the mileage up. We averaged 40.6 > on the interstate trip. We now have almost 5000 miles on the car, and > the last two tanks averaged 33 mpg. I think that is ridiculous. If we > were getting 43, I would feel scammed, but good night, 33? It's > really a crime. Can't wait to see what the dealer says when I take it > back in a few weeks for service. > > I also get very disgusted when some say that it's the way people drive > that is the problem. We live in flat-land and drive it normally > without rabbit starts etc. 33 is disgusting. > > > Interesting. Along with a Pilot and a 01 Prelude, we also have an 03 Civic LX 4 dr 5 speed. I routinely get 36-38 on the highway with the ac on -- we live in GA and it does get hot. Urban driving -- around 33-34. My Prelude -- usually around 27 in mixed highway/urban but I usually run a little harder into the VTEc -- did get 32 on a long trip last year. I run both cars around 80 on trips. |
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"muzz" > wrote in message news > I have read several posts about the Civic hybrid. We have had ours for > a year now.After a thousand miles, with the a/c off, I was averaging > 34 mpg. I took it back to the dealer and complained. They said that > since it only had 1000 miles, the mileage figure was not what is to be > expected, and after a good break-in (he suggested 4000 miles), we > should be getting close to the EPA 46/48. We therefore drove the Civic > on a 2000 mile interstate trip to get the mileage up. We averaged 40.6 > on the interstate trip. We now have almost 5000 miles on the car, and > the last two tanks averaged 33 mpg. I think that is ridiculous. If we > were getting 43, I would feel scammed, but good night, 33? It's > really a crime. Can't wait to see what the dealer says when I take it > back in a few weeks for service. > > I also get very disgusted when some say that it's the way people drive > that is the problem. We live in flat-land and drive it normally > without rabbit starts etc. 33 is disgusting. > > > Interesting. Along with a Pilot and a 01 Prelude, we also have an 03 Civic LX 4 dr 5 speed. I routinely get 36-38 on the highway with the ac on -- we live in GA and it does get hot. Urban driving -- around 33-34. My Prelude -- usually around 27 in mixed highway/urban but I usually run a little harder into the VTEc -- did get 32 on a long trip last year. I run both cars around 80 on trips. |
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muzz > wrote: >I also get very disgusted when some say that it's the way people drive >that is the problem. We live in flat-land and drive it normally >without rabbit starts etc. 33 is disgusting. What other cars have you driven, and what fuel economy did you get in the other cars, compared to the EPA ratings? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
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muzz > wrote: >I also get very disgusted when some say that it's the way people drive >that is the problem. We live in flat-land and drive it normally >without rabbit starts etc. 33 is disgusting. What other cars have you driven, and what fuel economy did you get in the other cars, compared to the EPA ratings? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
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muzz wrote: > > I have read several posts about the Civic hybrid. We have had ours for > a year now.After a thousand miles, with the a/c off, I was averaging > 34 mpg. I took it back to the dealer and complained. They said that > since it only had 1000 miles, the mileage figure was not what is to be > expected, and after a good break-in (he suggested 4000 miles), we > should be getting close to the EPA 46/48. We therefore drove the Civic > on a 2000 mile interstate trip to get the mileage up. We averaged 40.6 > on the interstate trip. We now have almost 5000 miles on the car, and > the last two tanks averaged 33 mpg. I think that is ridiculous. If we > were getting 43, I would feel scammed, but good night, 33? It's > really a crime. Can't wait to see what the dealer says when I take it > back in a few weeks for service. > > I also get very disgusted when some say that it's the way people drive > that is the problem. We live in flat-land and drive it normally > without rabbit starts etc. 33 is disgusting. I'm working on a 1983 Honda Civic FE project. This car was EPA rated at 46 mpg (city) and 59 mpg (highway). Realistically, I would expect about 35 mpg (city) and maybe 45 mpg (highway). My only new car, a 1961 VW beetle got over 50 mpg on extreme highway driving. Soooooooooo, I'm inclined to think that this hybrid crap is a scam if you consider the cost of the car, maintenance, and repair parts/labor. I'll stick with the older carbureted car and depend more on the nut behind the wheel... -- JT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 |
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muzz wrote: > > I have read several posts about the Civic hybrid. We have had ours for > a year now.After a thousand miles, with the a/c off, I was averaging > 34 mpg. I took it back to the dealer and complained. They said that > since it only had 1000 miles, the mileage figure was not what is to be > expected, and after a good break-in (he suggested 4000 miles), we > should be getting close to the EPA 46/48. We therefore drove the Civic > on a 2000 mile interstate trip to get the mileage up. We averaged 40.6 > on the interstate trip. We now have almost 5000 miles on the car, and > the last two tanks averaged 33 mpg. I think that is ridiculous. If we > were getting 43, I would feel scammed, but good night, 33? It's > really a crime. Can't wait to see what the dealer says when I take it > back in a few weeks for service. > > I also get very disgusted when some say that it's the way people drive > that is the problem. We live in flat-land and drive it normally > without rabbit starts etc. 33 is disgusting. I'm working on a 1983 Honda Civic FE project. This car was EPA rated at 46 mpg (city) and 59 mpg (highway). Realistically, I would expect about 35 mpg (city) and maybe 45 mpg (highway). My only new car, a 1961 VW beetle got over 50 mpg on extreme highway driving. Soooooooooo, I'm inclined to think that this hybrid crap is a scam if you consider the cost of the car, maintenance, and repair parts/labor. I'll stick with the older carbureted car and depend more on the nut behind the wheel... -- JT Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4 |
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>> were getting 43, I would feel scammed, but good night, 33? It's >> really a crime. If I may point out, on a 1200 mile Southern California desert/mountains/cities trip -- 9,000' passes, 85 mpd freeways (cheated a bit for about 1/2 minute slightly over 90 --was still being passed -- USI5) occasionally significant traffic, 1990 Honda CRX, I averaged 39.9 mpg. Quent |
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>If we
>> were getting 43, I would feel scammed, but good night, 33? It's >> really a crime. If I may point out, on a 1200 mile Southern California desert/mountains/cities trip -- 9,000' passes, 85 mpd freeways (cheated a bit for about 1/2 minute slightly over 90 --was still being passed -- USI5) occasionally significant traffic, 1990 Honda CRX, I averaged 39.9 mpg. Quent |
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jim beam > wrote:
> with respect, that's not surprising. the only time the hybrid comes > into its own is in city driving. constant stop/start consumes a lot of I've tried to correct Jim's mistaken impressions before. http://makeashorterlink.com/?K3D0211E9 I don't think Jim has a hybrid, and he argued with me about fundamental concepts of how the Honda IMA system operates. The thread noted here as a Google reference has some postings from me. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...6a538ae&rnum=3 I have a 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid, and I average 43-45 mpg. http://www.rahul.net/dold/clarence/Honda_Mileage.htm Freeway travel at 70 mph can get above 50, but you have to cruise. "Keeping up with traffic" with goofy speed fluctuations on highway 680 in the SF Bay Area, will cut severely into mileage. Traffic flow is anywhere from 60mph to 85+. I was doing just over 80, third in a pack of cars, when I realized a Chevy Tahoe was running up my butt. The Tahoe changed two lanes to the right to go around me in a gap that I didn't consider large enough to pull over into. When I did find a gap, I dropped back to cruise-control 70mph. I could stay up with the faster traffic, but that just eats into the mileage. It's a little motor, 1300cc. At cruising speed, it is working comfortably, with no hybrid assist. Power for acceleration needs to come from somewhere. It either comes in short bursts from stored battery power, or from overtaxing that little itty bitty engine. I don't believe that hybrid is any sort of scam. I think it works very well for me. I live in a rural area, and do a good bit of interstate driving, so the idea that it is a city-only car is wrong. My daughter has a Chevrolet Metro, which gets over 40mpg on the highway, but she realizes that is a far different car from mine. I also have a Ford Escape Hybrid, but I don't have enough miles on it to comment about the city/highway mileage yet. The electric motor in it is rated for the same horsepower as the Honda gas+IMA. Different vehicle. -- --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5 |
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