Virginia, USA: New law gives $3,000 traffic fines to U.S. citizens, NO fines for illegal alien drivers!

On Jul 1, 10:51 pm, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer >
wrote:
> As an admitted traffic safety enthusiast who's on his third Volvo, far be
> it for me to criticize measures which penalize motorists for driving
> irresponsibly.
>
> HOWEVER, what the HELL are the politicians in Virginia thinking by fining
> *legal* drivers who are U.S. citizens over $1,300 for driving 20 mph over
> the speed limit WHILE NOT FINING ILLEGAL ALIENS A NICKEL for committing the
> same offense?
>
> This new law is not just an insult or abuse or affront to my fellow
> Americans in Virginia but constitutes INTOLERABLE TYRANNY! It's bad enough
> here in California where drunk illegal alien drivers are EVERYWHERE, yet
> are seemingly immune from the law (as I made clear to the cop who pulled me
> over and issued a $280 + court costs speeding ticket to me not long ago)
> but this new outrage in Virginia positively takes the cake!
>
> ANYONE with ANY sense of justice and sanity can see that this situation
> constitutes outright OPPRESSION of U.S. citizens.
>
> Apparently the politicians in Virginia are hell-bent on making Lenin's
> maxim a reality; to paraphrase, "They will sell us the rope with which we
> will hang them." In this case Americans are being ordered to pay for the
> infrastructure that we will then be expected to hand over to the illegals
> (and the illegals' anchor babies) who snuck into their country.
>
> This is similar to the new law proposed last year by California Senator
> "One-Bill Gil" Cedillo (scroll down) to exempt illegal aliens -- who are
> not even allowed to drive in California -- from having their vehicles
> impounded while continuing the current policy of impounding the vehicles of
> legal American citizen drivers for a full month.
>
> Be sure to read ITEM #2 below, "Illegal Aliens and HB3202"!
> ------------------------------------------------------
> ITEM:
>
> Virginia to issue traffic fines as high as $3,000
>
> By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY
>
> Virginia is for lovers, or so the state slogan has declared since 1969.
> Starting Sunday, Virginia also will be the home of the $3,000 traffic
> ticket.
>
> In an effort to raise money for road projects, the state will start hitting
> residents [BUT *NOT* ILLEGAL ALIENS! -- GWA] who commit serious traffic
> offenses with huge civil penalties ...
>
> The civil penalty for going 20 mph over the speed limit will be $1,050,
> plus $61 in court costs and a fine that is typically about $200 ...
>
> "It's outrageous," says traffic court attorney Thaddeus Furlong of
> Springfield, Va. "When Mr. and Mrs. Middle Class find out what they have to
> pay, there's going to be a backlash like you've never seen." ...
>
> Another difference: The civil penalties apply only to Virginia residents,
> not out-of-state drivers. Virginians must pay in three installments over 26
> months or lose their licenses. The state Legislature didn't think it could
> enforce the extra penalties in other states.
>
> Motorist club AAA Mid-Atlantic supports the new penalties.
>
> [GWAdmirer: HA! The *SAME* $AAA$ -- and I've been a Premier member for
> years -- which does NOTHING about the millions of (often drunk/drugged)
> illegal alien drivers off our roads!]
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ing-laws_N.htm
> --------------------------------------------------------
> ITEM:
>
> Illegal Aliens and HB3202
>
> Last night Delegate Bob Marshall left a very interesting comment he
>
> "Have your readers considered the fact that under HB 3202, the so-called
> "Transportation" bill, that after July 1 persons with a valid Virginia
> license should receive higher fines for traffic infractions than illegal
> aliens who say have driver's licenses from a Central or South American
> country, or from East Europe, or East Asia or anywhere else?
>
> Because that is precisely what HB 3202 does. It says, Illegal Alien, you
> get a smaller fine than a Virginia resident with a valid driver's license.
>
> Why the Virginia General Assembly, especially Republicans who say they want
> to crack down on Illegal Aliens, and the Governor wanted to treat Virginia
> drivers harsher than Illegal Aliens is a question I cannot answer."
>
> What Bob is talking about is the $1,050 part of the new fines that exempts
> anyone who is not from Virginia. While that is outrageous on its own- it
> hadn't occurred to me until Bob left this comment that would also exclude
> people here illegally and still residents of other countries. So for the
> same crime, an illegal alien who lives on my street gets fined $1,050 less
> than I would... As BVBL just said this morning: "It's official. Our
> government treats illegal aliens better than it does it's own citizens."
>
> This bill is stunning in its incompetence, arrogance and ineptitude.
>
> The media needs to get on this fast.
>
> http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/do...l-aliens-.html
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ITEM: May 7, 2005
>
> Vehicle impound exemption proposed for illegal immigrants
>
> Senator pushes to exempt illegal immigrants' vehicles from being
> impounded
>
> By Harrison Sheppard Staff Writer
>
> SACRAMENTO - Stymied by his efforts to provide driver's licenses to
> illegal immigrants, Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, has proposed a
> measure that would exempt undocumented motorists from vehicle-impound
> laws. Under current law, police can impound for 30 days the vehicle of
> a motorist caught driving without a valid license. Cedillo's bill
> would exempt those who don't have a license simply because they are
> not legal U.S. residents.
>
> Cedillo said law enforcement resources should be dedicated to pursuing
> serious driving offenses such as drunk driving, not licensing
> violations by undocumented immigrants.
>
> [GWAdmirer: Analogy to the above: "So why bother with cases of unlicensed
> doctors -- just make sure whoever performs an operation isn't drunk."]
>
> "That's what the money should be spent for, not towing people's cars
> who are taking their citizen-kids to school, church or the
> supermarket," Cedillo said. "It's just a bad policy and it doesn't
> make sense."
>
> Unlike his measure that would make illegal immigrants eligible for
> licenses, which was repealed under pressure from Gov. Arnold
> Schwarzenegger, Cedillo has pushed for his new bill quietly.
>
> In fact, one of the strongest opponents to Cedillo's driver's-license
> measure, Mike Spence, president of the conservative group California
> Republican Assembly, was unaware of the latest bill until contacted
> for comment.
>
> [GWAdmirer: They tried to sneak THIS putrid outrage past The People just as
> they later tried to do on a national level with the amnesty bill.]
>
> Spence said the bill appears to apply a "double standard" because
> legal residents whose licenses were suspended or revoked still would
> be punished.
>
> "If you're a citizen and you break one law, your car will be impounded
> for 30 days. If you're already breaking another law and you break this
> law, you get away with it free. It's a
> "Get-your-car-out-of-impound-free card' for illegal aliens, and it's
> wrong."
>
> His sentiment was echoed by at least one local immigration activist,
> who added that by making the proposal, Cedillo himself is breaking the
> law.
>
> "He's not interesed in abiding by the law, as his oath of office
> requires him," said Andy Ramirez, chairman of Friends of the Border
> Patrol, a Chino group that supports Border Patrol agents. "The only
> thing he's interesed in is breaking the law and allowing lawbreakers
> to do just that.' ...
>
> Los Angeles police officers say the ability to impound vehicles is a
> useful tool for law enforcement. Lt. Steven Allen of the LAPD's Valley
> Traffic Division said the law helps discourage unlicensed, uninsured
> drivers by making it more expensive.
>
> "I probably get more complaints about this very issue from people who
> are involved in traffic accidents than any other issue," Allen said.
> "(They say) "Here I am in this country legally and I have a driver's
> license and I get rear-ended by someone who has no license, who is
> here illegally and has no insurance. How am I ever going to get money
> for the damage to my car?"'
>
> Valley Traffic runs operations several times a month, targeting areas
> where there are frequent hit-and-runs to check for driver's licenses
> and registrations. The operations usually result in anywhere from 80
> to 120 impounds each time.
>
> Allen said there is no reason to drive without a license because
> police are required to recognize valid licenses from other countries,
> so those who are here illegally should at least maintain a legal
> license from their native country.
>
> [GWAdmirer: LOL! Driving without licenses, driving without any training,
> driving without insurance or registration -- even KIDS driving -- is COMMON
> "their native countries"!]
> ************************************************** ***********************
> PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
>
> "The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonaldwww.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
>
> http://www.PredatoryAliens.comwww.Im...a lAliens.org
> See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:www.ImmigrationCounters.com
> ---------------------------------------------
> "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
> ("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
>
> -- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
> organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
> (Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
> ---------------------------------------------
> "How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico"
> By John Dillinhttp://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
>
> Excerpt:
>
> "General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
> highlighting one paragraph that said: 'The rise in illegal border-crossing
> by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
> 1,000,000 cases a year ...
>
> read more

Hmmmmmmmmm.

http://www.newnation.com/ New Nation News

greg

On Jul 2, 5:29 am, wrote:
> On Jul 1, 10:51 pm, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > As an admitted traffic safety enthusiast who's on his third Volvo, far be
> > it for me to criticize measures which penalize motorists for driving
> > irresponsibly.
>
> > HOWEVER, what the HELL are the politicians in Virginia thinking by fining
> > *legal* drivers who are U.S. citizens over $1,300 for driving 20 mph over
> > the speed limit WHILE NOT FINING ILLEGAL ALIENS A NICKEL for committing the
> > same offense?
>
> > This new law is not just an insult or abuse or affront to my fellow
> > Americans in Virginia but constitutes INTOLERABLE TYRANNY! It's bad enough
> > here in California where drunk illegal alien drivers are EVERYWHERE, yet
> > are seemingly immune from the law (as I made clear to the cop who pulled me
> > over and issued a $280 + court costs speeding ticket to me not long ago)
> > but this new outrage in Virginia positively takes the cake!
>
> > ANYONE with ANY sense of justice and sanity can see that this situation
> > constitutes outright OPPRESSION of U.S. citizens.
>
> > Apparently the politicians in Virginia are hell-bent on making Lenin's
> > maxim a reality; to paraphrase, "They will sell us the rope with which we
> > will hang them." In this case Americans are being ordered to pay for the
> > infrastructure that we will then be expected to hand over to the illegals
> > (and the illegals' anchor babies) who snuck into their country.
>
> > This is similar to the new law proposed last year by California Senator
> > "One-Bill Gil" Cedillo (scroll down) to exempt illegal aliens -- who are
> > not even allowed to drive in California -- from having their vehicles
> > impounded while continuing the current policy of impounding the vehicles of
> > legal American citizen drivers for a full month.
>
> > Be sure to read ITEM #2 below, "Illegal Aliens and HB3202"!
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > ITEM:
>
> > Virginia to issue traffic fines as high as $3,000
>
> > By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY
>
> > Virginia is for lovers, or so the state slogan has declared since 1969.
> > Starting Sunday, Virginia also will be the home of the $3,000 traffic
> > ticket.
>
> > In an effort to raise money for road projects, the state will start hitting
> > residents [BUT *NOT* ILLEGAL ALIENS! -- GWA] who commit serious traffic
> > offenses with huge civil penalties ...
>
> > The civil penalty for going 20 mph over the speed limit will be $1,050,
> > plus $61 in court costs and a fine that is typically about $200 ...
>
> > "It's outrageous," says traffic court attorney Thaddeus Furlong of
> > Springfield, Va. "When Mr. and Mrs. Middle Class find out what they have to
> > pay, there's going to be a backlash like you've never seen." ...
>
> > Another difference: The civil penalties apply only to Virginia residents,
> > not out-of-state drivers. Virginians must pay in three installments over 26
> > months or lose their licenses. The state Legislature didn't think it could
> > enforce the extra penalties in other states.
>
> > Motorist club AAA Mid-Atlantic supports the new penalties.
>
> > [GWAdmirer: HA! The *SAME* $AAA$ -- and I've been a Premier member for
> > years -- which does NOTHING about the millions of (often drunk/drugged)
> > illegal alien drivers off our roads!]
>
> >http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ing-laws_N.htm
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > ITEM:
>
> > Illegal Aliens and HB3202
>
> > Last night Delegate Bob Marshall left a very interesting comment he
>
> > "Have your readers considered the fact that under HB 3202, the so-called
> > "Transportation" bill, that after July 1 persons with a valid Virginia
> > license should receive higher fines for traffic infractions than illegal
> > aliens who say have driver's licenses from a Central or South American
> > country, or from East Europe, or East Asia or anywhere else?
>
> > Because that is precisely what HB 3202 does. It says, Illegal Alien, you
> > get a smaller fine than a Virginia resident with a valid driver's license.
>
> > Why the Virginia General Assembly, especially Republicans who say they want
> > to crack down on Illegal Aliens, and the Governor wanted to treat Virginia
> > drivers harsher than Illegal Aliens is a question I cannot answer."
>
> > What Bob is talking about is the $1,050 part of the new fines that exempts
> > anyone who is not from Virginia. While that is outrageous on its own- it
> > hadn't occurred to me until Bob left this comment that would also exclude
> > people here illegally and still residents of other countries. So for the
> > same crime, an illegal alien who lives on my street gets fined $1,050 less
> > than I would... As BVBL just said this morning: "It's official. Our
> > government treats illegal aliens better than it does it's own citizens."
>
> > This bill is stunning in its incompetence, arrogance and ineptitude.
>
> > The media needs to get on this fast.
>
> >http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/do...l-aliens-.html
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > ITEM: May 7, 2005
>
> > Vehicle impound exemption proposed for illegal immigrants
>
> > Senator pushes to exempt illegal immigrants' vehicles from being
> > impounded
>
> > By Harrison Sheppard Staff Writer
>
> > SACRAMENTO - Stymied by his efforts to provide driver's licenses to
> > illegal immigrants, Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, has proposed a
> > measure that would exempt undocumented motorists from vehicle-impound
> > laws. Under current law, police can impound for 30 days the vehicle of
> > a motorist caught driving without a valid license. Cedillo's bill
> > would exempt those who don't have a license simply because they are
> > not legal U.S. residents.
>
> > Cedillo said law enforcement resources should be dedicated to pursuing
> > serious driving offenses such as drunk driving, not licensing
> > violations by undocumented immigrants.
>
> > [GWAdmirer: Analogy to the above: "So why bother with cases of unlicensed
> > doctors -- just make sure whoever performs an operation isn't drunk."]
>
> > "That's what the money should be spent for, not towing people's cars
> > who are taking their citizen-kids to school, church or the
> > supermarket," Cedillo said. "It's just a bad policy and it doesn't
> > make sense."
>
> > Unlike his measure that would make illegal immigrants eligible for
> > licenses, which was repealed under pressure from Gov. Arnold
> > Schwarzenegger, Cedillo has pushed for his new bill quietly.
>
> > In fact, one of the strongest opponents to Cedillo's driver's-license
> > measure, Mike Spence, president of the conservative group California
> > Republican Assembly, was unaware of the latest bill until contacted
> > for comment.
>
> > [GWAdmirer: They tried to sneak THIS putrid outrage past The People just as
> > they later tried to do on a national level with the amnesty bill.]
>
> > Spence said the bill appears to apply a "double standard" because
> > legal residents whose licenses were suspended or revoked still would
> > be punished.
>
> > "If you're a citizen and you break one law, your car will be impounded
> > for 30 days. If you're already breaking another law and you break this
> > law, you get away with it free. It's a
> > "Get-your-car-out-of-impound-free card' for illegal aliens, and it's
> > wrong."
>
> > His sentiment was echoed by at least one local immigration activist,
> > who added that by making the proposal, Cedillo himself is breaking the
> > law.
>
> > "He's not interesed in abiding by the law, as his oath of office
> > requires him," said Andy Ramirez, chairman of Friends of the Border
> > Patrol, a Chino group that supports Border Patrol agents. "The only
> > thing he's interesed in is breaking the law and allowing lawbreakers
> > to do just that.' ...
>
> > Los Angeles police officers say the ability to impound vehicles is a
> > useful tool for law enforcement. Lt. Steven Allen of the LAPD's Valley
> > Traffic Division said the law helps discourage unlicensed, uninsured
> > drivers by making it more expensive.
>
> > "I probably get more complaints about this very issue from people who
> > are involved in traffic accidents than any other issue," Allen said.
> > "(They say) "Here I am in this country legally and I have a driver's
> > license and I get rear-ended by someone who has no license, who is
> > here illegally and has no insurance. How am I ever going to get money
> > for the damage to my car?"'
>
> > Valley Traffic runs operations several times a month, targeting areas
> > where there are frequent hit-and-runs to check for driver's licenses
> > and registrations. The operations usually result in anywhere from 80
> > to 120 impounds each time.
>
> > Allen said there is no reason to drive without a license because
> > police are required to recognize valid licenses from other countries,
> > so those who are here illegally should at least maintain a legal
> > license from their native country.
>
> > [GWAdmirer: LOL! Driving without licenses, driving without any training,
> > driving without insurance or registration -- even KIDS driving -- is COMMON
> > "their native countries"!]
> > ************************************************** ***********************
> > PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
>
> > "The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonaldwww.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
>
> >http://www.PredatoryAliens.comwww.Im....DayLaborers.o...
> > See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:www.ImmigrationCounters.com
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
> > ("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
>
> > -- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
> > organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
> > (Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > "How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico"
> > By John Dillinhttp://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
>
> > Excerpt:
>
> > "General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
> > highlighting one paragraph that said: 'The rise in illegal border-crossing
> > by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
> > 1,000,000 cases a year ...
>
> > read more
>
> Hmmmmmmmmm.
>
> http://www.newnation.com/ New Nation News
>
> greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Try research before posting. It applies to VA residents only. Not
out of state. It has nothing to do with "legal " or "illegal" US
residents.

On Jul 2, 5:32 am, realitytrucker > wrote:
> On Jul 2, 5:29 am, wrote:
>
> > On Jul 1, 10:51 pm, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer >
> > wrote:
>
> > > As an admitted traffic safety enthusiast who's on his third Volvo, far be
> > > it for me to criticize measures which penalize motorists for driving
> > > irresponsibly.
>
> > > HOWEVER, what the HELL are the politicians in Virginia thinking by fining
> > > *legal* drivers who are U.S. citizens over $1,300 for driving 20 mph over
> > > the speed limit WHILE NOT FINING ILLEGAL ALIENS A NICKEL for committing the
> > > same offense?
>
> > > This new law is not just an insult or abuse or affront to my fellow
> > > Americans in Virginia but constitutes INTOLERABLE TYRANNY! It's bad enough
> > > here in California where drunk illegal alien drivers are EVERYWHERE, yet
> > > are seemingly immune from the law (as I made clear to the cop who pulled me
> > > over and issued a $280 + court costs speeding ticket to me not long ago)
> > > but this new outrage in Virginia positively takes the cake!
>
> > > ANYONE with ANY sense of justice and sanity can see that this situation
> > > constitutes outright OPPRESSION of U.S. citizens.
>
> > > Apparently the politicians in Virginia are hell-bent on making Lenin's
> > > maxim a reality; to paraphrase, "They will sell us the rope with which we
> > > will hang them." In this case Americans are being ordered to pay for the
> > > infrastructure that we will then be expected to hand over to the illegals
> > > (and the illegals' anchor babies) who snuck into their country.
>
> > > This is similar to the new law proposed last year by California Senator
> > > "One-Bill Gil" Cedillo (scroll down) to exempt illegal aliens -- who are
> > > not even allowed to drive in California -- from having their vehicles
> > > impounded while continuing the current policy of impounding the vehicles of
> > > legal American citizen drivers for a full month.
>
> > > Be sure to read ITEM #2 below, "Illegal Aliens and HB3202"!
> > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > ITEM:
>
> > > Virginia to issue traffic fines as high as $3,000
>
> > > By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY
>
> > > Virginia is for lovers, or so the state slogan has declared since 1969.
> > > Starting Sunday, Virginia also will be the home of the $3,000 traffic
> > > ticket.
>
> > > In an effort to raise money for road projects, the state will start hitting
> > > residents [BUT *NOT* ILLEGAL ALIENS! -- GWA] who commit serious traffic
> > > offenses with huge civil penalties ...
>
> > > The civil penalty for going 20 mph over the speed limit will be $1,050,
> > > plus $61 in court costs and a fine that is typically about $200 ...
>
> > > "It's outrageous," says traffic court attorney Thaddeus Furlong of
> > > Springfield, Va. "When Mr. and Mrs. Middle Class find out what they have to
> > > pay, there's going to be a backlash like you've never seen." ...
>
> > > Another difference: The civil penalties apply only to Virginia residents,
> > > not out-of-state drivers. Virginians must pay in three installments over 26
> > > months or lose their licenses. The state Legislature didn't think it could
> > > enforce the extra penalties in other states.
>
> > > Motorist club AAA Mid-Atlantic supports the new penalties.
>
> > > [GWAdmirer: HA! The *SAME* $AAA$ -- and I've been a Premier member for
> > > years -- which does NOTHING about the millions of (often drunk/drugged)
> > > illegal alien drivers off our roads!]
>
> > >http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ing-laws_N.htm
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > ITEM:
>
> > > Illegal Aliens and HB3202
>
> > > Last night Delegate Bob Marshall left a very interesting comment he
>
> > > "Have your readers considered the fact that under HB 3202, the so-called
> > > "Transportation" bill, that after July 1 persons with a valid Virginia
> > > license should receive higher fines for traffic infractions than illegal
> > > aliens who say have driver's licenses from a Central or South American
> > > country, or from East Europe, or East Asia or anywhere else?
>
> > > Because that is precisely what HB 3202 does. It says, Illegal Alien, you
> > > get a smaller fine than a Virginia resident with a valid driver's license.
>
> > > Why the Virginia General Assembly, especially Republicans who say they want
> > > to crack down on Illegal Aliens, and the Governor wanted to treat Virginia
> > > drivers harsher than Illegal Aliens is a question I cannot answer."
>
> > > What Bob is talking about is the $1,050 part of the new fines that exempts
> > > anyone who is not from Virginia. While that is outrageous on its own- it
> > > hadn't occurred to me until Bob left this comment that would also exclude
> > > people here illegally and still residents of other countries. So for the
> > > same crime, an illegal alien who lives on my street gets fined $1,050 less
> > > than I would... As BVBL just said this morning: "It's official. Our
> > > government treats illegal aliens better than it does it's own citizens."
>
> > > This bill is stunning in its incompetence, arrogance and ineptitude.
>
> > > The media needs to get on this fast.
>
> > >http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/do...l-aliens-.html
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ITEM: May 7, 2005
>
> > > Vehicle impound exemption proposed for illegal immigrants
>
> > > Senator pushes to exempt illegal immigrants' vehicles from being
> > > impounded
>
> > > By Harrison Sheppard Staff Writer
>
> > > SACRAMENTO - Stymied by his efforts to provide driver's licenses to
> > > illegal immigrants, Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, has proposed a
> > > measure that would exempt undocumented motorists from vehicle-impound
> > > laws. Under current law, police can impound for 30 days the vehicle of
> > > a motorist caught driving without a valid license. Cedillo's bill
> > > would exempt those who don't have a license simply because they are
> > > not legal U.S. residents.
>
> > > Cedillo said law enforcement resources should be dedicated to pursuing
> > > serious driving offenses such as drunk driving, not licensing
> > > violations by undocumented immigrants.
>
> > > [GWAdmirer: Analogy to the above: "So why bother with cases of unlicensed
> > > doctors -- just make sure whoever performs an operation isn't drunk."]
>
> > > "That's what the money should be spent for, not towing people's cars
> > > who are taking their citizen-kids to school, church or the
> > > supermarket," Cedillo said. "It's just a bad policy and it doesn't
> > > make sense."
>
> > > Unlike his measure that would make illegal immigrants eligible for
> > > licenses, which was repealed under pressure from Gov. Arnold
> > > Schwarzenegger, Cedillo has pushed for his new bill quietly.
>
> > > In fact, one of the strongest opponents to Cedillo's driver's-license
> > > measure, Mike Spence, president of the conservative group California
> > > Republican Assembly, was unaware of the latest bill until contacted
> > > for comment.
>
> > > [GWAdmirer: They tried to sneak THIS putrid outrage past The People just as
> > > they later tried to do on a national level with the amnesty bill.]
>
> > > Spence said the bill appears to apply a "double standard" because
> > > legal residents whose licenses were suspended or revoked still would
> > > be punished.
>
> > > "If you're a citizen and you break one law, your car will be impounded
> > > for 30 days. If you're already breaking another law and you break this
> > > law, you get away with it free. It's a
> > > "Get-your-car-out-of-impound-free card' for illegal aliens, and it's
> > > wrong."
>
> > > His sentiment was echoed by at least one local immigration activist,
> > > who added that by making the proposal, Cedillo himself is breaking the
> > > law.
>
> > > "He's not interesed in abiding by the law, as his oath of office
> > > requires him," said Andy Ramirez, chairman of Friends of the Border
> > > Patrol, a Chino group that supports Border Patrol agents. "The only
> > > thing he's interesed in is breaking the law and allowing lawbreakers
> > > to do just that.' ...
>
> > > Los Angeles police officers say the ability to impound vehicles is a
> > > useful tool for law enforcement. Lt. Steven Allen of the LAPD's Valley
> > > Traffic Division said the law helps discourage unlicensed, uninsured
> > > drivers by making it more expensive.
>
> > > "I probably get more complaints about this very issue from people who
> > > are involved in traffic accidents than any other issue," Allen said.
> > > "(They say) "Here I am in this country legally and I have a driver's
> > > license and I get rear-ended by someone who has no license, who is
> > > here illegally and has no insurance. How am I ever going to get money
> > > for the damage to my car?"'
>
> > > Valley Traffic runs operations several times a month, targeting areas
> > > where there are frequent hit-and-runs to check for driver's licenses
> > > and registrations. The operations usually result in anywhere from 80
> > > to 120 impounds each time.
>
> > > Allen said there is no reason to drive without a license because
> > > police are required to recognize valid licenses from other countries,
> > > so those who are here illegally should at least maintain a legal
> > > license from their native country.
>
> > > [GWAdmirer: LOL! Driving without licenses, driving without any training,
> > > driving without insurance or registration -- even KIDS driving -- is COMMON
> > > "their native countries"!]
> > > ************************************************** ***********************
> > > PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW:
>
> > > "The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonaldwww.City-Journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
>
> > >http://www.PredatoryAliens.comwww.Im....DayLaborers.o...
> > > See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer:www.ImmigrationCounters.com
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada"
> > > ("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing")
>
> > > -- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded
> > > organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA
> > > (Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member)
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > "How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico"
> > > By John Dillinhttp://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
>
> > > Excerpt:
>
> > > "General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times,
> > > highlighting one paragraph that said: 'The rise in illegal border-crossing
> > > by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than
> > > 1,000,000 cases a year ...
>
> > > read more
>
> > Hmmmmmmmmm.
>
> >http://www.newnation.com/New Nation News
>
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>
> Try research before posting. It applies to VA residents only. Not
> out of state. It has nothing to do with "legal " or "illegal" US
> residents.

Yeh, An illegal alien with a VA license get the same as the legal
Virginian.