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New law: $3,000 traffic fines for U.S. citizens, but NO fines for illegal alien drivers!
As an admitted traffic safety enthusiast who's on his third Volvo, far be
it for me to criticize measures which penalize motorists for driving irresponsibly. HOWEVER, what the HELL are the politicians in Virginia thinking by fining *legal* drivers who are U.S. citizens over $1,300 for driving 20 mph over the speed limit WHILE NOT FINING ILLEGAL ALIENS A NICKEL for committing the same offense? This new law is not just an insult or abuse or affront to my fellow Americans in Virginia but constitutes INTOLERABLE TYRANNY! It's bad enough here in California where drunk illegal alien drivers are EVERYWHERE, yet are seemingly immune from the law but this new outrage in Virginia positively takes the cake! ANYONE with ANY sense of justice and sanity can see that this situation constitutes outright OPPRESSION of U.S. citizens. Apparently the politicians in Virginia are hell-bent on making Lenin's maxim a reality; to paraphrase, "They will sell us the rope with which we will hang them." In this case Americans are being ordered to pay for the infrastructure that we will then be expected to hand over to the illegals (and the illegals' anchor babies) who snuck into their country. This is similar to the new law proposed last year by California Senator "One-Bill Gil" Cedillo (scroll down) to exempt illegal aliens -- who are not even allowed to drive in California -- from having their vehicles impounded while continuing the current policy of impounding the vehicles of legal American citizen drivers for a full month. Be sure to read ITEM #2 below, "Illegal Aliens and HB3202"! ------------------------------------------------------ ITEM: Virginia to issue traffic fines as high as $3,000 By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY Virginia is for lovers, or so the state slogan has declared since 1969. Starting Sunday, Virginia also will be the home of the $3,000 traffic ticket. In an effort to raise money for road projects, the state will start hitting residents [BUT *NOT* ILLEGAL ALIENS! -- GWA] who commit serious traffic offenses with huge civil penalties ... The civil penalty for going 20 mph over the speed limit will be $1,050, plus $61 in court costs and a fine that is typically about $200 ... "It's outrageous," says traffic court attorney Thaddeus Furlong of Springfield, Va. "When Mr. and Mrs. Middle Class find out what they have to pay, there's going to be a backlash like you've never seen." ... Another difference: The civil penalties apply only to Virginia residents, not out-of-state drivers. Virginians must pay in three installments over 26 months or lose their licenses. The state Legislature didn't think it could enforce the extra penalties in other states. Motorist club AAA Mid-Atlantic supports the new penalties. [GWAdmirer: HA! The *SAME* $AAA$ -- and I've been a Premier member for years -- which does NOTHING about the millions of (often drunk/drugged) illegal alien drivers off our roads!] http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ing-laws_N.htm -------------------------------------------------------- ITEM: Illegal Aliens and HB3202 Last night Delegate Bob Marshall left a very interesting comment he "Have your readers considered the fact that under HB 3202, the so-called "Transportation" bill, that after July 1 persons with a valid Virginia license should receive higher fines for traffic infractions than illegal aliens who say have driver's licenses from a Central or South American country, or from East Europe, or East Asia or anywhere else? Because that is precisely what HB 3202 does. It says, Illegal Alien, you get a smaller fine than a Virginia resident with a valid driver's license. Why the Virginia General Assembly, especially Republicans who say they want to crack down on Illegal Aliens, and the Governor wanted to treat Virginia drivers harsher than Illegal Aliens is a question I cannot answer." What Bob is talking about is the $1,050 part of the new fines that exempts anyone who is not from Virginia. While that is outrageous on its own- it hadn't occurred to me until Bob left this comment that would also exclude people here illegally and still residents of other countries. So for the same crime, an illegal alien who lives on my street gets fined $1,050 less than I would... As BVBL just said this morning: "It¡¦s official. Our government treats illegal aliens better than it does it¡¦s own citizens." This bill is stunning in its incompetence, arrogance and ineptitude. The media needs to get on this fast. http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/do...l-aliens-.html -------------------------------------------------------------- ITEM: May 7, 2005 Vehicle impound exemption proposed for illegal immigrants Senator pushes to exempt illegal immigrants' vehicles from being impounded By Harrison Sheppard Staff Writer SACRAMENTO - Stymied by his efforts to provide driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, has proposed a measure that would exempt undocumented motorists from vehicle-impound laws. Under current law, police can impound for 30 days the vehicle of a motorist caught driving without a valid license. Cedillo's bill would exempt those who don't have a license simply because they are not legal U.S. residents. Cedillo said law enforcement resources should be dedicated to pursuing serious driving offenses such as drunk driving, not licensing violations by undocumented immigrants. [GWAdmirer: Analogy to the above: "So why bother with cases of unlicensed doctors -- just make sure whoever performs an operation isn't drunk."] "That's what the money should be spent for, not towing people's cars who are taking their citizen-kids to school, church or the supermarket," Cedillo said. "It's just a bad policy and it doesn't make sense." Unlike his measure that would make illegal immigrants eligible for licenses, which was repealed under pressure from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Cedillo has pushed for his new bill quietly. In fact, one of the strongest opponents to Cedillo's driver's-license measure, Mike Spence, president of the conservative group California Republican Assembly, was unaware of the latest bill until contacted for comment. [GWAdmirer: They tried to sneak THIS putrid outrage past The People just as they later tried to do on a national level with the amnesty bill.] Spence said the bill appears to apply a "double standard" because legal residents whose licenses were suspended or revoked still would be punished. "If you're a citizen and you break one law, your car will be impounded for 30 days. If you're already breaking another law and you break this law, you get away with it free. It's a "Get-your-car-out-of-impound-free card' for illegal aliens, and it's wrong." His sentiment was echoed by at least one local immigration activist, who added that by making the proposal, Cedillo himself is breaking the law. "He's not interesed in abiding by the law, as his oath of office requires him," said Andy Ramirez, chairman of Friends of the Border Patrol, a Chino group that supports Border Patrol agents. "The only thing he's interesed in is breaking the law and allowing lawbreakers to do just that.' ... Los Angeles police officers say the ability to impound vehicles is a useful tool for law enforcement. Lt. Steven Allen of the LAPD's Valley Traffic Division said the law helps discourage unlicensed, uninsured drivers by making it more expensive. "I probably get more complaints about this very issue from people who are involved in traffic accidents than any other issue," Allen said. "(They say) "Here I am in this country legally and I have a driver's license and I get rear-ended by someone who has no license, who is here illegally and has no insurance. How am I ever going to get money for the damage to my car?"' Valley Traffic runs operations several times a month, targeting areas where there are frequent hit-and-runs to check for driver's licenses and registrations. The operations usually result in anywhere from 80 to 120 impounds each time. Allen said there is no reason to drive without a license because police are required to recognize valid licenses from other countries, so those who are here illegally should at least maintain a legal license from their native country. [GWAdmirer: LOL! Driving without licenses, driving without any training, driving without insurance or registration -- even KIDS driving -- is COMMON "their native countries"!] ************************************************** *********************** PLEASE EMAIL THESE LINKS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW: "The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald http://www.City-Journal.org/html/14_...gal_alien.html www.PredatoryAliens.com www.ImmigrationsHumanCost.org www.DayLaborers.org www.Alipac.us www.ImmigrationWatchdog.com www.AmericanPatrol.com www.SaveOurState.org www.EscapingJustice.com www.MothersAgainstIllegalAliens.org See the COLOSSAL costs of illegal aliens to the American taxpayer: www.ImmigrationCounters.com --------------------------------------------- "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" ("For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing") -- Motto of MEChA, one of the nation's largest publically-funded organizations with cells on high school and college campuses across the USA (Note: Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez says he "used to be" a member) --------------------------------------------- ¡§How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico¡¨ By John Dillin http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html Excerpt: ¡§General Eisenhower ... quoted a report in The New York Times, highlighting one paragraph that said: ¡¥The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government ..." ¡§Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said the president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took office. ¡§America ¡¥was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large scale,¡¦ Mr. Brownell said. ¡¥When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint.¡¦" -------------------------------------------------- Just two of MANY American cops murdered by illegals: www.DeputyDavidMarch.com www.KrisEggle.org "Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent Social Security numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status. In addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today's federal prison population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal aliens." -- Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House Subcommittee on Immigration, Border, Security and Claims [Note: 99% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles, California -- the USA's 2nd most-populous city -- are for illegal aliens] "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams "¡§All great truths begin as heresies.¡¨ -- Former Democrat Governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, official of Defend Colorado Now, a movement opposed to illegal immigration and public services for illegal aliens |
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New law: $3,000 traffic fines for U.S. citizens, but NO fines for illegal alien drivers!
On Jul 2, 1:56 am, GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer >
wrote: > As an admitted traffic safety enthusiast who's on his third Volvo, far be > it for me to criticize measures which penalize motorists for driving > irresponsibly. > > HOWEVER, what the HELL are the politicians in Virginia thinking by fining > *legal* drivers who are U.S. citizens over $1,300 for driving 20 mph over > the speed limit WHILE NOT FINING ILLEGAL ALIENS A NICKEL for committing the > same offense? > > read more No thanks.. becaue you are missing the point. Why are you obsessed with undocumented aliens. This has nothing to do with them. You should be fretting over how law enforcement in this country is COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL. A $3k fine for a traffic violation. Let's just all start saying "ZEIG HEIL" right now... Cops are running mad in this country, and nothing is being done because everyone is either afraid-- or they are cop ass- kissers. Who the **** CARES about undocumented aliens. |
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New law: $3,000 traffic fines for U.S. citizens, but NO finesfor illegal alien drivers!
GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer wrote:
> As an admitted traffic safety enthusiast who's on his third Volvo, far be > it for me to criticize measures which penalize motorists for driving > irresponsibly. > > HOWEVER, what the HELL are the politicians in Virginia thinking by fining > *legal* drivers who are U.S. citizens over $1,300 for driving 20 mph over > the speed limit WHILE NOT FINING ILLEGAL ALIENS A NICKEL for committing the > same offense? > > This new law is not just an insult or abuse or affront to my fellow > Americans in Virginia but constitutes INTOLERABLE TYRANNY! It's bad enough > here in California where drunk illegal alien drivers are EVERYWHERE, yet > are seemingly immune from the law but this new outrage in Virginia > positively takes the cake! > > ANYONE with ANY sense of justice and sanity can see that this situation > constitutes outright OPPRESSION of U.S. citizens. > > Apparently the politicians in Virginia are hell-bent on making Lenin's > maxim a reality; to paraphrase, "They will sell us the rope with which we > will hang them." In this case Americans are being ordered to pay for the > infrastructure that we will then be expected to hand over to the illegals > (and the illegals' anchor babies) who snuck into their country. > > This is similar to the new law proposed last year by California Senator > "One-Bill Gil" Cedillo (scroll down) to exempt illegal aliens -- who are > not even allowed to drive in California -- from having their vehicles > impounded while continuing the current policy of impounding the vehicles of > legal American citizen drivers for a full month. > I'm all for hitting extreme speeders with huge fines but of course it should apply to illegals as much or even more so. This is just another example of politicians bought off by the corporations making fortunes off the cheap illegal labor. Not much the voters can do since both parties have been corrupted. This will have to be resolved outside the law if you know what i mean. |
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New law: $3,000 traffic fines for U.S. citizens, but NO fines for illegal alien drivers!
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer wrote: >> As an admitted traffic safety enthusiast who's on his third Volvo, far be >> it for me to criticize measures which penalize motorists for driving >> irresponsibly. >> >> HOWEVER, what the HELL are the politicians in Virginia thinking by fining >> *legal* drivers who are U.S. citizens over $1,300 for driving 20 mph over >> the speed limit WHILE NOT FINING ILLEGAL ALIENS A NICKEL for committing the >> same offense? >> >> This new law is not just an insult or abuse or affront to my fellow >> Americans in Virginia but constitutes INTOLERABLE TYRANNY! It's bad enough >> here in California where drunk illegal alien drivers are EVERYWHERE, yet >> are seemingly immune from the law but this new outrage in Virginia >> positively takes the cake! >> >> ANYONE with ANY sense of justice and sanity can see that this situation >> constitutes outright OPPRESSION of U.S. citizens. >> >> Apparently the politicians in Virginia are hell-bent on making Lenin's >> maxim a reality; to paraphrase, "They will sell us the rope with which we >> will hang them." In this case Americans are being ordered to pay for the >> infrastructure that we will then be expected to hand over to the illegals >> (and the illegals' anchor babies) who snuck into their country. >> >> This is similar to the new law proposed last year by California Senator >> "One-Bill Gil" Cedillo (scroll down) to exempt illegal aliens -- who are >> not even allowed to drive in California -- from having their vehicles >> impounded while continuing the current policy of impounding the vehicles of >> legal American citizen drivers for a full month. >> > >I'm all for hitting extreme speeders with huge fines but of course it >should apply to illegals as much or even more so. This is just another >example of politicians bought off by the corporations making fortunes >off the cheap illegal labor. Not much the voters can do since both >parties have been corrupted. This will have to be resolved outside the >law if you know what i mean. It should also apply to the idiots who are making this policy. You can bet your bottom dollar this wouldn't be going through if they would be accountable to the same standards they hold their constituency to. -- We're all here because we're not all there. |
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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
>GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer > said in >rec.autos.driving: > >> As an admitted traffic safety enthusiast who's on his third Volvo, far be >>it for me to criticize measures which penalize motorists for driving >>irresponsibly. >> >> HOWEVER, what the HELL are the politicians in Virginia thinking by fining >>*legal* drivers who are U.S. citizens over $1,300 for driving 20 mph over >>the speed limit WHILE NOT FINING ILLEGAL ALIENS A NICKEL for committing the >>same offense? >> >> This new law is not just an insult or abuse or affront to my fellow >>Americans in Virginia but constitutes INTOLERABLE TYRANNY! > >So what are you, personally, doing to get this "intolerable" law >changed? I, for one, am staying the hell out of Virginia, even though as a "non-resident" I have some favored status. There wasn't much motivation for me to visit the state in the first place; there's even less now. -- We're all here because we're not all there. |
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New law: $3,000 traffic fines for U.S. citizens, but NO fines for illegal alien drivers!
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS:
> I'm all for hitting extreme speeders with huge fines but of course it > should apply to illegals as much or even more so. This is just another You mean like the illegal that knocked up your mother 9 months before you were born, el faggio??? > example of politicians bought off by the corporations making fortunes > off the cheap illegal labor. Not much the voters can do since both > parties have been corrupted. This will have to be resolved outside the > law if you know what i mean. No, we son't know what you mean. You talking sedition??? -- -- "There's not a shred of evidence that the jerries murdered anything close to 7 million jooz. Another monstrous lie just like the 9-11 official story. " -- Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend, 12/01/2004 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/9oog5 Message-ID: > |
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